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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #315 on: July 03, 2009, 03:44:56 pm »

Dwarf Fortress: Where a picture IS a thousand words! (or a ton of red double ~)
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #316 on: July 03, 2009, 04:11:10 pm »

Dwarf Fortress: The only God Game that makes you believe God exists and is acutally having Fun!

If you're wondering why a benevolent God lets bad things happen, you've never played DF.


DF: The Answer to the God Paradox!

Reading a book called Farseer, and while a thinly disguised anit-religious novel (like Golden Compass) it deals with a situation where the characters (intelligent velociraptors called quintaglios) have a religious system that makes sense until someone invents the telescope, then the main character gazes upon the sun, stars, the 13 moons, the 3 or 4 currently visible planets (of 9), and the Face of God (female) and comes to the conclusion that ALL of them are spherical (creates a simple model in his ship cabin*) and decides that The Face of God isn't God, but a planet and that they live on one of the planet's 14 moons.**

The problem with this knowledge is that if the "Face of God" isn't God, then either:

"It's turtles all the way down": God created them, someone else created god, someone else created that all the way to infinity, which is absurd.

OR

If God has no creator, then there is no need for God at all (the universe may as well have created itself).  But if there is no God, then there is no Afterlife, and if there is no Afterlife, then there's no reason for people to behave properly.  Quintaglios would stop repressing their territorial instincts and they'd only join up in groups for the hunt, leading to anarchy.

God(s) is(are) necessary for civilization, but not for the universe.

*Their world has a single landmass exactly 180 degrees around from the side facing The Face of God and doesn't rotate (relative) much like our own moon does.  It's a 130 day boat trip.

**Some of the 13 visible moons travel both against the stars sometimes, indicating that they have a narrower orbit than their own.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #317 on: July 03, 2009, 05:07:43 pm »

Dwarf Fortress: The only God Game that makes you believe God exists and is acutally having Fun!

If you're wondering why a benevolent God lets bad things happen, you've never played DF.


DF: The Answer to the God Paradox!

Reading a book called Farseer, and while a thinly disguised anit-religious novel (like Golden Compass) it deals with a situation where the characters (intelligent velociraptors called quintaglios) have a religious system that makes sense until someone invents the telescope, then the main character gazes upon the sun, stars, the 13 moons, the 3 or 4 currently visible planets (of 9), and the Face of God (female) and comes to the conclusion that ALL of them are spherical (creates a simple model in his ship cabin*) and decides that The Face of God isn't God, but a planet and that they live on one of the planet's 14 moons.**

The problem with this knowledge is that if the "Face of God" isn't God, then either:

"It's turtles all the way down": God created them, someone else created god, someone else created that all the way to infinity, which is absurd.

OR

If God has no creator, then there is no need for God at all (the universe may as well have created itself).  But if there is no God, then there is no Afterlife, and if there is no Afterlife, then there's no reason for people to behave properly.  Quintaglios would stop repressing their territorial instincts and they'd only join up in groups for the hunt, leading to anarchy.

God(s) is(are) necessary for civilization, but not for the universe.

*Their world has a single landmass exactly 180 degrees around from the side facing The Face of God and doesn't rotate (relative) much like our own moon does.  It's a 130 day boat trip.

**Some of the 13 visible moons travel both against the stars sometimes, indicating that they have a narrower orbit than their own.

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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #318 on: July 03, 2009, 08:26:24 pm »

Dwarf Fortress: Because the innocent just don't scream enough these days.

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 If you want to debate religion, there is a perfectly serviceable rant here.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #319 on: July 03, 2009, 08:36:16 pm »

Enjoying your *Cat Tallow Roast*, +Dwarven Wine Biscuits+, and some sort of liquid we found in a puddle outside, sir?
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #320 on: July 04, 2009, 12:46:09 am »

P.S.
 If you want to debate religion, there is a perfectly serviceable rant here.

I actually wasn't debating religion.  I was making a curious similarity between the post I quoted and the book I was reading.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #321 on: July 04, 2009, 04:16:30 am »

Urist cancels DF; Attend Party.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #322 on: July 05, 2009, 02:06:06 am »

Magma solves everything!
Fire just ruins the booze.


LOL. so true, so very true.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #323 on: July 05, 2009, 02:43:54 am »

But if there is no God, then there is no Afterlife, and if there is no Afterlife, then there's no reason for people to behave properly. 
How about being thrown into jail and getting punched in face for being an asshole?

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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #324 on: July 05, 2009, 05:49:58 am »

Dwarf Fortress
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System Requirements: How much you got?
Oh lordy, that's SO true. Added to wiki.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #325 on: July 05, 2009, 08:33:08 am »

But if there is no God, then there is no Afterlife, and if there is no Afterlife, then there's no reason for people to behave properly. 
How about being thrown into jail and getting punched in face for being an asshole?

DF: The only game with 2 ways to mine for fish.

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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #326 on: July 05, 2009, 08:38:21 am »

Whats the third?

1. Digging into an aquifer
2. Digging into an underground pool/river
3. ?
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #327 on: July 05, 2009, 08:40:01 am »

Whats the third?

1. Digging into an aquifer
2. Digging into an underground pool/river
3. ?

Freezing the fish in a block of obsidian and mining it out or mining the fish out of ice.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #328 on: July 05, 2009, 08:41:36 am »

Thats 3 and 4.

Holy s***! You can mine fish in 4 different ways.
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Re: What's your line?
« Reply #329 on: July 05, 2009, 08:42:24 am »

Unless you mod in "Fishstone" and do an unfeasibly complex series of smelter reactions.
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