And what do you mean by first world areas not having a sense of sovereign? As far as I know, the US, european countries, canada, etc, haven't given up on their territory or submitted themselves directly to the will of a foreign power. The EU countries haven't given up on their sovereign either, they just agreed to work togheder, but a country can defect from it if it wishes to do so, there's nothing absolutely preventing it from doing that.
The number of countries where the leader is actually sovereign is dwindling. In plenty the King or whatnot is more for show and you certainly can't say any of the various politician groups have indisputable power since it's really all about limits. If Obama was sovereign losing the Massachusetts seat wouldn't matter and we'd have socialized medicine already 
Of course Obama isn't the sovereign. The People is. More specifically, the people who actually vote are the sovereign. I don't remember exactly how the argument went, but didn't some philosopher ask, "If the king cannot choose his heir, who then has the power: The king, or the King Makers?" Okay, that is a paraphrase of what is probably a translation, but it contains the idea.
Also, did you never take a high school civics class that talked about "Popular Sovereignty?" It is very much present in the Republics of the western world. Other places, like north Korea or Cuba, not so much, though they tend to have some form of autocrat in power.
At any rate, a better question to ask with regards to defining civilizations would probably be whether they have a formal power structure or not? In Egypt, they had the pharoah, in rome they had the senate and later the emperors. During the Senatorial period, would you claim that the romans were not civilized? Okay, neither would I, but that is more because they were a blood thirsty people who delighted in murder and killing than because I feel like applying real anthropological principles to them.
Nope I'm trying to tell what the word means in a self-educated way.
If it's the people of America that are sovereign perhaps we shouldn't cal ourselves a civilization either.
In the more anarchistic groups, like most hunter gatherers, it's still the people deciding who's in charge. You only get that blip at the point where a leader could have a military force that the regular people couldn't stand up against but that's obviously not present in hunter gatherer groups- ever able bodied male is usually the military strength of such groups.
The differences between nerd geek and dork are awfully recently constructed. It feels like expecting everyone to abide by my definition of pudding also being an adhesive such as the mortar used in bricklaying.
Nerd: erudite, nonsocial smart person, often ostracised.
Geek: Someone who will eat odd things e.g. buckets of nails
Dork: a euphemism.
Why people go out of their way to put others down I will ne'er sympathise.
If you actually get people talking about this you're going to have a hard time finding matching definitions for those.
These words come too much from elementary school children to have preserved meanings.
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The differences between nerd geek and dork are awfully recently constructed. It feels like expecting everyone to abide by my definition of pudding also being an adhesive such as the mortar used in bricklaying.
Nerd: erudite, nonsocial smart person, often ostracised.
Geek: Someone who will eat odd things e.g. buckets of nails
Dork: a euphemism.
It can also vary by where you are or what context.
For example, geek has a similar meaning as nerd. Computer geek is the same as computer nerd.
I think that CobaltKobold's point was that shoku has it backwards. The words meant entirely different, yet insulting, things originally and have only recently become synonymous due to more modern slang.
How many of us are old enough that it's relevant to argue for the older definitions?
So potentially with all the underground work going on, kobolds will have towns/cities in caves now?--Thndr
What kinds of buildings should kobolds make?
I don't remember seeing this, but I'll ask anyway in this version will we be able to assign rooms to positions like "mayor" and so forth, rather than to individual dwarves?
Edit: I recall hearing that being on the backburner.
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