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[Qloos]

I think failing to add "More organ links to function" for dev next.  Has come back with a vengeance.

[jokermatt999]

Bah, my dorfs work just fine even when they're on fire!

However, if he requires bed rest, we may not see him for a number of seasons. Do well on your health care roll, Toady One!

[smjjames]

I think failing to add "More organ links to function" for dev next.  Has come back with a vengeance.

huh?

That depends on what organ links to function are in right now for the current and the new release (the most basic ones that you need in order to live are in already) and what other organ links to function Toady is talking about.

What is he talking about as far as the organ links to function anyway?

[Neonivek]

Well for example Livers, Kidneys, and stomachs Don't actually DO anything other then causing unrelated problems if they are damaged, serving as "Hit here for extra damage" locations.

In fact other then causing death the brain doesn't do much either.

I think he means linking organs to stuff like that... actually doing things.

[SirPenguin]

In fact other then causing death the brain doesn't do much either.

Toady is famous for his social commentary

[Protactinium]

In fact other then causing death the brain doesn't do much either.

Toady is famous for his social commentary

10/10

[Saber Cherry]

Well for example Livers, Kidneys, and stomachs Don't actually DO anything other then causing unrelated problems if they are damaged, serving as "Hit here for extra damage" locations.

For some reason, this makes me think of giant enemy crabs, which I think DF lacks.

[Rhenaya]

Kidiri cancels browse Bay12 fora: Give water.
Kidiri cancels give water: Needs empty bucket.

Damn it! Where's my bucket?

[toiski]

Kidiri cancels browse Bay12 fora: Give water.
Kidiri cancels give water: Needs empty bucket.

Damn it! Where's my bucket?

<I haz a bukkit>

A microcline bucket? Must be an artifact!

[Sean Mirrsen]

It's an adamantine bucket.

[RantingRodent]

In fact other then causing death the brain doesn't do much either.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/162124/primordial-soup

[smjjames]

Well for example Livers, Kidneys, and stomachs Don't actually DO anything other then causing unrelated problems if they are damaged, serving as "Hit here for extra damage" locations.

In fact other then causing death the brain doesn't do much either.

I think he means linking organs to stuff like that... actually doing things.

I can see how those would be difficult because the primary function of the kidneys is to filter out waste and excrete it as urine (we are missing the bladder here though). While the liver does similar things as well, it also alters chemicals and protiens and other stuff. Theres the pancreas which is best known for producing insulin. All of that is tied into the gastrointestinal system which is how we get nutrients (and toxins) through ingested materials.


So, yea, its very interlinked.


Speaking of the liver, their livers must be incredibly powerful in order to not take damage from alcohol or even result in alcohol fetal syndrome. Makes me wonder how powerful poisons would have to be in order to have an effect on dwarves.

Edit: Although, there are those poisons that do their nasty work well before they reach the liver.

[Chthonic]

I can see how those would be difficult because the primary function of the kidneys is to filter out waste and excrete it as urine (we are missing the bladder here though). While the liver does similar things as well, it also alters chemicals and protiens and other stuff. Theres the pancreas which is best known for producing insulin. All of that is tied into the gastrointestinal system which is how we get nutrients (and toxins) through ingested materials.

Couple of other functions for these organs . . . the liver stores energy (you can think of it as the shorter-term battery powering your body).  The kidneys excrete nitrogenous wastes, but also play a huge role in salt and pH balance--loss of either of which will kill you pretty quickly.  Pancreas produces and stores hydrolytic enzymes (digestive juices) .  . if these get out into the body-at-large, they begin digesting you from the inside out and can cause a lot of damage.

Fun stuff.

[smjjames]

Yea, its very intricate.

I don't see DF simulating all that anytime soon. In the spoilered raws, Toady already set up the vascularity of the organs, which in a way, does represent how vital they are.

[Tonjevic]

Say I create a custom critter (call it a rock golem) which ages basically indefinitely and keeps getting bigger as it ages, to the point where it's eventually of mega-beast proportions. Will this aging, and its effect on the golem's survivability be applied in world gen, and hence the sizes of golem you might encounter in the game world?

I'm not clear at all on how world-gen or whatever works. This seemed like an interesting scenario to me, to eventually have a bunch of ancient rocky giants stumping around the landscape, destroying whatever they come across.