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[FluffyToast J]

Think about it: A bruise or a cut. What hurts more?

Of course, depending on the severity of each wound, it could change. I've never personally cut myself that bad, the worst being a steak knife cut on my finger, but that definately hurt alot more than most of the bruises I've had.

[ManaUser]

Technically you do the same damage over any area, but "damage" has a slightly different meaning. slicing someone open could be the same amount of "damage" as a large bruise, just concentrated on a smaller area.

By that logic, stepping on the floor does the same amount of damage as stepping on a tack, and I can tell you first hand (or foot) that isn't true. It's the same amount of force, sure, but damage only happens once the force on a given area exceeds its structural limits.

[Aqizzar]

I could see though, that if throwing were a 'primary' attacking method, a funny bug would be if they were programmed to throw whatever was in their hands at the moment. Mothers going to battle with their child would shock and amaze as they used their child as a projectile to kill invading goblins, then cancelled fighting to pick the baby up, then threw him again.

I can practically see it.

All we need now is some spiky steel baby armor, and everything will be just fine.

[Dae]

An interesting possible bug just hit me :
Toady, have you thought considering tantruming or berserk Dwarves vs Burrows ? It would be quite weird to see someone enraged choosing to throw an item located halfway through the map, ignoring nearer ones because "these aren't in my district".
Even though our Dwarves are quite dedicated.

[JohnLukeG]

I want to be able to designate a baby for dipping in liquid gold, then fashion the product into a hammer for the mother. 

This would occur to all children born before the former baby grows into childhood. 

[Neruz]

I want to be able to designate a baby for dipping in liquid gold, then fashion the product into a hammer for the mother. 

This would occur to all children born before the former baby grows into childhood. 

"Try out our new gold-plated babyhammers! Exactly what it sounds like."

[JohnLukeG]

I want to be able to designate a baby for dipping in liquid gold, then fashion the product into a hammer for the mother. 

This would occur to all children born before the former baby grows into childhood. 

"Try out our new gold-plated babyhammers! Exactly what it sounds like."

The ones where the baby solidifies in a menacing pose are more expensive, but rare.

[Footkerchief]

An interesting possible bug just hit me :
Toady, have you thought considering tantruming or berserk Dwarves vs Burrows ? It would be quite weird to see someone enraged choosing to throw an item located halfway through the map, ignoring nearer ones because "these aren't in my district".
Even though our Dwarves are quite dedicated.

He's hinted that dwarves will ignore their burrow assignments under certain circumstances: "Just the basic burrow mechanic is powerful enough that it is pretty exploitable, so there will be several ways in which dwarves either move beyond their burrows or are affected adversely by heavy restrictions, but I'll leave those for you to find."

So yeah, he probably considered that.

[Timst]

Gonna crosspost this year, though I'm sure a lot of the more dedicated gents in this topic know all of this stuff already. I compiled a list of the new features and changes the next version will have. I tried my best to grab the info from the devlog, this very thread, as well as the podcasts.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AT8EQVUjrv96ZGc5cnBwOHZfMjgyY3FzZHFtanA&hl=en

It's probably not everything and it may contain mistakes, but this behemoth is 11 pages long and contains almost 5000 words. Yeah. This is going to be a gigantic release.

This document is amazing.

Anyway, since there's now a lot of new ways to organize your army and defend your civilians, will there be new challenges ? (apart from the underground I mean)
Will the goblin come more often ? With stronger forces ? And especially - will they attack indefinitely, like it used to be ?

[Pure_W]

You still planning to release by th end of the year, toady?

[NewoTigra]

After a quick read-through of the dev logs for this release (because they're informative and amusing), a few things came to mind.

Sutures will apparently act much like stuck-in items, so can they therefore be twisted in the wound or pulled out?
If so, would this just worsen the wound or remove the suture, or do anything nastier?

Also, how do casts work? Can they be broken or cracked by further attacks?
Although that's kind of invalid if they count as wounded dwarves and would not participate in fights...

[CobaltKobold]

Also, how do casts work? Can they be broken or cracked by further attacks?
Although that's kind of invalid if they count as wounded dwarves and would not participate in fights...

Um...I don't think that any DF races consider wounded "out of the fight", nor civilians, so I'm pretty sure even they'll try to fight back if able.

Also, no-item damage is OUT for this release, so I expect that casts will make fine clubs if one can swing 'em, but won't be breakable. (Maybe worsen the break under the cast by attacking, though the cast should distribute force in such a way that it won't.)

[jarathor]

I have a quick question that I haven't seen yet (although I may have missed it somewhere in these 600 or so pages).

Will immigrants still be completely random, or will they draw their appearance genes from the genepool available to your civilization?

[CobaltKobold]

I...hmm, good question. Presently(40d) it doesn't look at the civ other than "is it still there?" for immigrants, to my knowledge. And, it probably still won't REALLY pull them from until Caravan Arc.

Does sound like a quick intermediate solution, though, to just grab genepool of the founding couples, adding in other civs' if they're mingled/can interbreed.
Or if not, and actually make it possible for multiracial forts if your home civ has conquered some others, though that requires fixing up other code...hmm...

[Sean Mirrsen]

Something I thought about, considering the creature templates and the earlier-discussed F() function. If you imagine that there's an F() for every existing creature... hybrids would be possible?