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Author Topic: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items  (Read 3667315 times)

LostandConfused

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8655 on: December 16, 2009, 12:26:43 pm »


If by that you mean he doesn't take any time off, then... yeah, that's not terribly inaccurate.

If you mean that he does it after coming home from work at Conglomerated Ltd., no, Bay 12 Games is his day job.

A little bit of both.  So he doesn't do any work outside of Bay 12, just living off everyone's generous donations?  I thought he did this entirely for his own interest/fun...
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8656 on: December 16, 2009, 12:28:40 pm »

A little bit of both.  So he doesn't do any work outside of Bay 12, just living off everyone's generous donations?  I thought he did this entirely for his own interest/fun...

Yeah, he's Making Games Every Day All The Time.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8657 on: December 16, 2009, 12:29:53 pm »

That'd be more of an oxymoron, I'd say. Technically a paradox is a statement that is neither true nor false, such as "This statement is a lie."

Apart from the terminology mixup though you have a very good point. DF is unprecedented in many ways, although some similarities might be drawn to previous ongoing indie projects like NetHack and ADoM.

Of course, neither NetHack nor ADoM has had an update in years, so they're not exactly ongoing....talk about an oxymoron!  ;)
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8658 on: December 16, 2009, 12:34:28 pm »

Just a thought here:

With the burrows, will it be possible to create a creche or nursery burrow? Or will the children still pretty much wander wherever they like?
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Sean Mirrsen

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8659 on: December 16, 2009, 12:37:57 pm »

Speaking of raws, everyone go read today's dev log right now.  Holy cow.  Creature templates implemented on a whim.
I have a sneaking suspicion my mods had something to do with it. :) I mean, seriously. It's more or less exactly my "Dr.More-Oh" mod upgraded into a game-supported feature.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 12:48:01 pm by Sean Mirrsen »
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8660 on: December 16, 2009, 12:43:12 pm »

Seven items seems like a breeze.... probably totally underestimating the amount of work involved though. :)
So, what happens if Toady1 finishes all of the listed items before the tentative release date?
Does it mean early release or extra time for some extra menacing spikes of code and other details and bugsquashing?

edit: My vote goes to some Adams free-time, he deserves some days of rest after such a tour-de-force of creation. :)

 

There's no official release date.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8661 on: December 16, 2009, 12:47:23 pm »

Nice Footkerchief, quick with that link thanks

haha need to keep donating money so he doesn't get any crazy employment ideas.
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« Reply #8662 on: December 16, 2009, 01:12:22 pm »

Quick question : Any chance of getting the minimum number of dwarfs for a mood to occur as an init option? It'd be nice for people who want small forts AND artifacts.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 01:17:20 pm by jokermatt999 »
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8663 on: December 16, 2009, 01:20:36 pm »

Templates for Giant and -men versions of creatures! Awesome! That'll make some basic modding very easy.

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8664 on: December 16, 2009, 01:25:44 pm »

Oh, boy!  GIANT DWARFS!
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8665 on: December 16, 2009, 01:28:13 pm »

Oh, boy!  GIANT DWARFS!
or maybe Giant dwarf-men?

What would happen if you made a human-man?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8666 on: December 16, 2009, 01:34:35 pm »

Template-based ___men seems like a natural progression. I wonder how long it'll be before we see sharkmen?...
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8667 on: December 16, 2009, 01:41:14 pm »

I played with the idea in my mod, but dismissed them. Too much work figuring out tag exchanges for questionable gain - you hardly even see sharks in the game, and you can't fast travel over ocean to encounter them in adventure mode.

I like it that my ideas eventually turn out to be the right ideas, but it's ever so slightly sad that my mod is being gradually made redundant. Oh well. Another part of the Martial Arts mod out the window, following detailed bodies and fancy attacks. But Modbase's capabilities aren't yet expended! At least I still have my meta-magical weapons. ;D
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 01:45:43 pm by Sean Mirrsen »
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8668 on: December 16, 2009, 01:59:27 pm »

Templates! Whheee! :D

I suspect templates themselves can't be assigned as entity creatures as of yet, only their results. Though that would be nice to have (with options whether a snatcher entity would be able to apply the template on none/all/some of the snatched - undead civilizations might be better modelled by something like that (along with other options of course, but that's not relevant yet - templates are more than enough for now)). It's probably also a first step in bringing out skeletons and zombies into the raws, though obviously that won't happen until a future release (Creature Improvements II.D/Core96).
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #8669 on: December 16, 2009, 02:21:52 pm »

Until there's an [UNDEAD] tag that specifically says a creature is to be treated as undead, even creature templates won't help. I could create templates for skeletons and zombies in modbase, but they would have no place.

That said, I can still upgrade Modbase to do entities based off generated creatures. I guess I'm at a slight advantage in that regard.
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