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« Reply #7935 on: December 05, 2009, 07:56:51 am »

If someone eats a masterpiece meal and vomits on the floor, does the janitor commit a crime by cleaning it?

Sounds like a philisophical question, dont ask me why.

It's a variation on Theseus' Ship, perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
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« Reply #7936 on: December 05, 2009, 11:03:16 am »

If someone eats a masterpiece meal and vomits on the floor, does the janitor commit a crime by cleaning it?

Sounds like a philisophical question, dont ask me why.

The janitor is free of guilt in this case.

However, he-who-hath-consumed is free of guilt only if the vomit maintains the masterful qualifier of the eaten meal. If the vomit was anything less than masterful, then it is a crime against the chef.

Likewise, anything less than a masterful bowel movement is also a crime against the chef.

[try getting that imagery out of your head!]
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« Reply #7937 on: December 05, 2009, 11:04:28 am »

Don't need to. Dwarves don't poop  ;)
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« Reply #7938 on: December 05, 2009, 11:23:12 am »

Don't need to. Dwarves don't poop  ;)
I think their digestive system is a two-way deal. Undigested food is simply vomited back up. It would explain why they never seem to be hungry after a good puke.
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« Reply #7939 on: December 05, 2009, 11:27:55 am »

I don't know about you, but I am usually not hungry after a good puke... no matter how good. (I don't think I should go into detail)

Usually because of how sick you feel afterwords.
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« Reply #7940 on: December 05, 2009, 11:58:17 am »

Organs from butchering!  Yes.  And it's all adjusted for relsizes too!  That's incredibly awesome.

Interesting how the liver comes out chopped, and I'm guessing the "nervous tissue" (from the spine?) and cartilage are going to be further dealt with, or eliminated.  Also, cartilage should probably be "gristle," insofar as it remains.

Someday nobles will mandate the preparation of elephant foie gras.

I was going to ask Toady if he remembered to create a syndrome for husky / polar bear liver, but then I remembered there aren't ingestion effects yet.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2009, 12:19:45 pm by Footkerchief »
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« Reply #7941 on: December 05, 2009, 12:06:30 pm »

And he showed us a butchered elephant. Stick it to those huge, gray bastards!
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« Reply #7942 on: December 05, 2009, 12:09:32 pm »

This is getting hilarious with how gory it is getting.

It is another one of those things you would like to add to but with a lack of information existing. (For example last I heard Polar Bear Livers were toxic due to Vitamin A poisoning)

As for excessive inflation of food... I guess the number of organs you get from an animal could depend on the skill of the butcher.

That and "Generic Organ Grinding"

I am just musing slash thinking outloud, these arn't serious suggestions.
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« Reply #7943 on: December 05, 2009, 12:22:16 pm »

Organs from butchering!  Yes.  And it's all adjusted for relsizes too!  That's incredibly awesome.

Interesting how the liver comes out chopped, and I'm guessing the "nervous tissue" (from the spine?) and cartilage are going to be further dealt with, or eliminated.  Also, cartilage should probably be "gristle," insofar as it remains.

And he showed us a butchered elephant. Stick it to those huge, gray bastards!


Wait, what? When did he show us these things? There wasn't a dev log update today, and I don't recall Toady posting anything like that in this thread.
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« Reply #7944 on: December 05, 2009, 12:24:02 pm »

Wait, what? When did he show us these things? There wasn't a dev log update today, and I don't recall Toady posting anything like that in this thread.

Ctrl+F5 on the dev log to force a refresh.  The site misreports the last-modified time or something, I don't know.

The best ever use of skill synergy would be an Anatomist skill that benefits both butchering and surgery.

As for excessive inflation of food... I guess the number of organs you get from an animal could depend on the skill of the butcher.

Yeah, it definitely should depend.  Incompetent butchers could even give you invisibly contaminated meat, like from nicking the intestine or something, although I don't know how hazardous that would actually be.
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« Reply #7945 on: December 05, 2009, 12:33:13 pm »

So, is it going to be possible to make necklaces out of teeth yet?  ;D

Also, dang that's a lot of body bits. It'd be interesting if you could somehow manually define which bits are keepers and which are refuse, so that they'll automatically throw away, say, the nervous tissue, but hang on to the delicious spleens.

Or maybe throw away all that disgusting "meat" and focus on the organ biscuits.
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« Reply #7946 on: December 05, 2009, 12:37:44 pm »

Hmm, still just one 'skin' object, though. So I guess getting different amounts of leather per animal will have to wait for another release.

Not a big deal. Just getting what we have is amazing enough as it is.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #7947 on: December 05, 2009, 12:46:35 pm »

Oh, neato, they'll still mandate ivory items of course. And we'll have it.  Just nothing to make from it.

Yeah, with all these spare parts floating around, I'd like to see a garrenteed meat skin and bone, but everything else be in the skill check.
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« Reply #7948 on: December 05, 2009, 12:57:13 pm »

Actually, different skin amounts may be in. Just like cloth isn't used whole now, leather may be that way as well. If it isn't, it would be a logical addition.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #7949 on: December 05, 2009, 01:00:03 pm »

If we have a creature with different types of skin(A soft fuzzy underbelly and a tough outside carapace) release different leather types when butchered and tanned?
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