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[ArkDelgato]

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perhaps bodyparts should have functions attached to them, for example, wings, propellers and air-bladders bestowing flight to creatures randomized with them.

It wouldn't make sense to have flight without reasoning as to why, especially as the physics of DF advance.

[Areyar]

magic ability could be a consideration. creatures such as beholders can and they don't even have legs or arms only eyes. damn DnD.

edit: I mean; breath-weapons are not natural but magic abilities too.
xcept for vomit breath... but that is an acid-projectile-vomit attack actually.

[Dae]

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perhaps bodyparts should have functions attached to them, for example, wings, propellers and air-bladders bestowing flight to creatures randomized with them.

It wouldn't make sense to have flight without reasoning as to why, especially as the physics of DF advance.

My post doesn't really need to be spoilered but... Just in case, you know.

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I think in the end, each creature could have a list of actions tied to BP, with different tags saying "all of these BP necessary", "at least one of these BP necessary", etc. It could work with bonuses or maluses too, this way we could have incredibly strong borgles, at least until you cut off their borgly borgle, where they lose a strength bonus.

[Granite26]

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Like Samson?

[Neonivek]

Assuming it is even associated at all and isn't projected by their soul, ambient energy, disconnected mechanism, or that can be projected through any bodypart.

[Granite26]

Assuming it is even associated at all and isn't projected by their soul, ambient energy, disconnected mechanism, or that can be projected through any bodypart.

Well, that's the thing, isn't it?  You'd want a system that could handle Angels(working wings), Cthuhlu (vestigal wings), Bloats (gasbags), and Superman.  Flight tied to a body part, a complex set of parts and nothing at all, without the wings always being tied to flight.  I'd think high correlation (few things without both have either), but not as a requirement.

[CobaltKobold]

Bodypart and nothing-at-all is already supported in 40d- SuperKobolds!

[Warlord255]

But if breath weapons just take a specified material, what temperature is it at? Just the necessary temperature to make it gaseous?  With iron, that would be pretty nasty.

Or maybe it would just be projectile-vomiting iron chunks.

Replace projectile-vomiting with "organic cannon" and we've got potential.

[AbacusWizard]

COLD DRAGONS ARE DRAGON YETIS.
 POISON DRAGONS ARE GIANT PORCUPINE GILA MONSTERS.
 Dwarf fortress don't need no color coordination. Dwarf Fortress needs bizarre body parts.

I would have so much fun if my fortress got attacked by a poison-spewing giant porcupine gila monster.

Seriously, that would be awesome. And I love the image of cold dragons covered not in white scales but in thick blue-white fur.

[CobaltKobold]

COLD DRAGONS ARE DRAGON YETIS.
 POISON DRAGONS ARE GIANT PORCUPINE GILA MONSTERS.
 Dwarf fortress don't need no color coordination. Dwarf Fortress needs bizarre body parts.

Most definitely. Random Dragons will be fun in a few versions.

[smjjames]

You know, since it pretty much randomly picks stuff (at least sensibly) to create the new titans, I'm sure we will see some with the aquatic tag (AKA Leviathans, Kraken, Horrors of the Deep, etc). I wonder how those will show up. Like will the game make sure that you have a lake or something before something like that shows up?

It would be really wierd and extremely anticlimatic to have such a creature spawn on land and instantly airdrown.

Deepmurk the Tentacled Maw of Horror has arrived!
Deepmurk the Tentacled Maw of Horror has air-drowned!
Urist McLeader: O.o   okayyyy..... um, drag that thing in and see what we can do with it....

Speaking of which, how will materials from these random titans be handled? Like will there be a fixed value or will that be variable since I would rather mount the hide of such a thing rather than allow it to be used for crafts since the skin of a titan like the new ones don't deserve to be put onto a dang earring or idol artifact.

[Chronas]

i wish material fluids were available sooner, i really want to mod a stationary acid spewing gargoyle 'creature' that keeps my moat flowing with liquid proton horror soup. then dunk some gobbos in it and dissolve them like aspirin of the dwarfiest kind. but never mind that triviality; Toady, which release are you intending to implement custom fluids?

[CobaltKobold]

Actually, if I understand right, this coming one. You get full custom mats- gas, fluid, solid.

Problem is, like I mentioned earlier about random vomitshell, acid damage doesn't exist yet, so you'd be thwarted that way.

[Fieari]

Acid is out, but contact poison is in, and that seems like it'd be close enough to work.

[Footkerchief]

Speaking of which, how will materials from these random titans be handled? Like will there be a fixed value or will that be variable since I would rather mount the hide of such a thing rather than allow it to be used for crafts since the skin of a titan like the new ones don't deserve to be put onto a dang earring or idol artifact.

The creatures in the spoiler both use STANDARD_MATERIALS, which means they use the default material values from the material templates.  It would be straightforward to alter the value of specific materials with a SELECT_MATERIAL block, but that isn't being done in either of the examples we've seen.

Toady, which release are you intending to implement custom fluids?

If you mean stuff that flows around the map like water and magma, the only conclusive answer is "not yet."  And probably not in the series of follow-up releases either, since priority is being given to adventurer skills, improved sieges, and the top 10 ESV items.

Acid is out, but contact poison is in, and that seems like it'd be close enough to work.

And you can also give those contact poisons a fixed temperature, so they can burn and blister and cause excruciating pain and generally do everything that people love so much about acid, except for dissolving metal floors I guess.