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[CobaltKobold]

Hopefully the new release puts some of that oomph back in so it IS special. First dragon experience was kind of laughable thanks to a missing limb.

[SirPenguin]

Well, ALSO in that DF Talk Toady mentioned how megabeasts definitely have their power back. I think he mentioned on dragon with 400 dead dwarves under her belt, and he gave a kind of sly laughter when he said, "Guess you'll have to deal with it"

Speaking of which I hope the 3rd talk comes out soon

[Flaede]

those talks are amazing. After each, the amount of information I'd just picked up was only apparent after I took it back to the forums. I like his thinking on siege planning/AI.

[Neruz]

Hopefully the new release puts some of that oomph back in so it IS special. First dragon experience was kind of laughable thanks to a missing limb.

The new materials and combat system revamps ensures that large megabeasts will be serious threats.

[Grek]

How does the [DRAGONFIREBREATH] tag work now? Is it going to be replaced with a poison breathe that burns people?

[CobaltKobold]

Hmm, good question, as I don't think that fire is a material.

...And now, I so want it to be...

[Sysice]

No, I think the poison breath on the random creature was just that: randomly generated. I mean, there might be a [POISONBREATH] tag, but it probably won't be on dragons.

[Neruz]

How does the [DRAGONFIREBREATH] tag work now? Is it going to be replaced with a poison breathe that burns people?

Further down there's an example of a critter that has the FIREBREATH tag. So this new poisonbreath is an extra, rather than a replacement.

[Sean Mirrsen]

I think there's no "poisonbreath" per se, there's "materialbreath" that just happens to have poison as one of its possible materials. At least, that's what I remember.

[Vester]

Materials, eh?

Soooo...

Ironbreath?

Bloodbreath?

Elfskinleatherbreath?!


That would be cool and gross.

[UristMcGunsmith]

But hasn't he said that arena mode wouldn't come with the next release?

I'm going ahead with the arena idea we discussed a bit before -- not arenas in adventure mode, but a mod testing mode. The current simple idea, which can be expanded after this release, is to allow the selection of a raw folder (either the main one or one of the ones associated to a current save, active or not) and to create a 144x144x9 arena with a floor, sky, magma and water. Next up is being able to stick critters in there with equipment and skills, and give them sides. Then you could have them fight and read the combat reports, or jump into one of them and play using adventure mode controls, or just see if they can walk around or live in general. I've got a creatureless version of it up and running in a stripped down dwarf mode -- there are lots of things to fix up, since there isn't any civilization information etc. loaded up and dwarf mode doesn't really like that. This time around, you can't save anything and there are no buildings or jobs created. We can do stuff like that later, after this release is up. The purpose here is basic creature/weapon/armor/material testing.

My god. The epic battles that would ensue are mind boggling.

Has anyone ever asked you how many 5 year olds you think you could fend off?

How about how many Dwarven Children, or Kobolds.

[Vester]

If you've ever played adventure mode, you'd know the answer is: "never enough".

Seriously. Children and Wolves have probably killed more adventurers than all megabeasts combined.

[Neruz]

I'm totally making a creature that breathes chunks of iron at you.

[keith.lamothe]

But if breath weapons just take a specified material, what temperature is it at? Just the necessary temperature to make it gaseous?  With iron, that would be pretty nasty.

Or maybe it would just be projectile-vomiting iron chunks.

[Sean Mirrsen]

I don't know. It'd be neat to be able to give specific temperatures. Breathing clouds of freezing water, searing hot vapors, deadly poison - that accounts for three of the chromatic dragons. I don't remember what the green and white ones breathe.