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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5460 on: October 07, 2009, 11:54:53 pm »

I understand that from an in-game perspective, it's more realistic to have the currency named by the various kingdoms, but when talking about it here on the forums, I kind of don't like having to look at a unicode table to get the ☼ symbol, and calling it dwarfbucks sounds silly.

You say that like sounding silly is a bad thing.  Although dwarfdegrees is a little clunky.

It's not "Dwarf Degrees" it's degrees Elfius. based on standard measurements of elves' cooking, boiling, and ignition points. However, those living with the old Imperial have temp Dwarfenheit, and that's why there's still confusion between some of the temp numbers.
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« Reply #5461 on: October 08, 2009, 12:39:26 am »

Tunneling enemies, remember?  Although that means you could get HFS after having not dug at all, I guess.

This could work if Tunneling enemies had a "preferred" stone types to dig through. Since they're always encapsulated in Adamantine, you could just set they're tunneling preferences to "Never dig through adamantine, but it's OK to dig through anything else" and you could have the best of both worlds.

This makes perfect sense to me. In lore terms, you could think of it this way:

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I like this; make it canon.

It's been unofficial canon for a while now, I think.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5462 on: October 08, 2009, 02:09:53 am »

I understand that from an in-game perspective, it's more realistic to have the currency named by the various kingdoms, but when talking about it here on the forums, I kind of don't like having to look at a unicode table to get the ☼ symbol, and calling it dwarfbucks sounds silly.

You say that like sounding silly is a bad thing.  Although dwarfdegrees is a little clunky.

It's not "Dwarf Degrees" it's degrees Elfius. based on standard measurements of elves' cooking, boiling, and ignition points. However, those living with the old Imperial have temp Dwarfenheit, and that's why there's still confusion between some of the temp numbers.

It's Degrees Urist fool, named for the Dwarf that discovered them.

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5463 on: October 08, 2009, 06:43:53 am »

Toady, will it be possible to use a workshop to change a creature's caste?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5464 on: October 08, 2009, 07:06:55 am »

No. Custom workshops can't use creatures.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5465 on: October 08, 2009, 08:16:47 am »

It's been unofficial canon for a while now, I think.

Uhhh...? Isn't that an oxymoron?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5466 on: October 08, 2009, 08:43:07 am »

TVTropes has the definition "Fanon".
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« Reply #5467 on: October 08, 2009, 09:34:08 am »

Yeah, there are plenty of unofficial things that are widely accepted.

And because I like ruining someone's day:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanon
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« Reply #5468 on: October 08, 2009, 01:52:11 pm »

Clowns are very hilarious creatures.

Just read this account and see for yourself.

edit: Puzzlemaker, weren't you the one with a very famous run-in with clowns?  You breached the funhouse and everyone was like "Don't tell him how funny it is!  Let him find out heehee!"

Yes I was sir.  It was an interesting experience.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5469 on: October 08, 2009, 02:19:16 pm »

I have not been paying the greatest attention, but is milking for non-carried animals (like cows) in the work set for this next release?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5470 on: October 08, 2009, 02:21:27 pm »

I have not been paying the greatest attention, but is milking for non-carried animals (like cows) in the work set for this next release?

No, unfortunately.

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1: Will milking be updated? To where we can milk cows?

1 Nope.

However, there's a livestock-oriented item on dev_next which will probably end up including a fix for milking.  So it's in the relatively near future.
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« Reply #5471 on: October 08, 2009, 02:53:37 pm »

I have not been paying the greatest attention, but is milking for non-carried animals (like cows) in the work set for this next release?

No, unfortunately.

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1: Will milking be updated? To where we can milk cows?

1 Nope.

However, there's a livestock-oriented item on dev_next which will probably end up including a fix for milking.  So it's in the relatively near future.

Why can't he just make it so that animals can produce a unit of something every now and then, and dwarves can just go and pick it up? Like, a cow could just spill some milk on the ground every now and then, and a dwarf could come scoop it into a bucket for processing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5472 on: October 08, 2009, 02:59:23 pm »

Because that would be so wrong...

Especially if multiple things can be specified. Then, every animal could be set to have its..  leavings.

Actually, no. I think it'd be a case of "Gone Horribly Right".
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5473 on: October 08, 2009, 03:08:16 pm »

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Why can't he just make it so that animals can produce a unit of something every now and then, and dwarves can just go and pick it up? Like, a cow could just spill some milk on the ground every now and then, and a dwarf could come scoop it into a bucket for processing

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #5474 on: October 08, 2009, 03:09:17 pm »

Why can't he just make it so that animals can produce a unit of something every now and then, and dwarves can just go and pick it up? Like, a cow could just spill some milk on the ground every now and then, and a dwarf could come scoop it into a bucket for processing.

Well, this is... kind of possible in the next version.  You could make cows spit globs of solid "milk," and create a Dairy workshop with a custom job to convert the globs into normal liquid milk in a bucket or barrel.  To make them spit the globs, though, I think you'd have to 1) set up something like the GCS silk-milking firing ranges people contruct, and 2) train them as war cows.  It's entertainingly demented at least?
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