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[AbacusWizard]

Mr. Dwarfbuck would be a cool dude.

Mr. Dwarfbuck is the adoptive father of Little Orphan Urist.

[JohnLukeG]

I find it hilarious that I'm looking forward to this update to a free game with ASCII graphics far more than I looked forward to GTA 4, which was a 100 million dollar production. 

[Time Kitten]

Actually, I think chasms and pits as they are now would be wonderful if they just extended far enough down to reach the underworld parts, perhaps unrelieved.  Like the release finally gives us a chance to spelunk those areas further than ever.

[SimRobert2001]

263C:15

damn, i'm going to miss the bottomless pits and chasms.  what else is out?

[Grax]

Actually, I think chasms and pits as they are now would be wonderful if they just extended far enough down to reach the underworld parts, perhaps unrelieved.  Like the release finally gives us a chance to spelunk those areas further than ever.

Deeper and deeper to unseen places and photophobic animals - in fortress mode too.

[Qmarx]

I just want an infinite drain to cancel out infinite fluid sources.

[bluephoenix]

263C:15

damn, i'm going to miss the bottomless pits and chasms.  what else is out?

??WHAT?? bottemless pits and chasms are out??

[Footkerchief]

263C:15

damn, i'm going to miss the bottomless pits and chasms.  what else is out?

??WHAT?? bottemless pits and chasms are out??

If you check the quote that Exponent posted above, Toady said five months ago that they were out "right now," and that HFS stuff might have a bottomless aspect.  The situation may have changed by now.  You CAN be sure that pits and chasms as you currently know them are out, because they look unnatural and goofy and generally kind of suck.  But bottomless pits are a concept too iconic to be permanently removed.  I wouldn't panic.

[bjlong]

Someone should make a sticky: "Yes, Bottomless pits and chasms are out. Sorta."

[Outcast Orange]

I think you guys are all in for a rude awakening when you realize what Toady is actually doing.
He's going to make the HFS truly game ending.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Since underground caves and stuff are going to be common place now, where do you think the HFS will come from?
That's right, Bottomless Pits.
Do you think you will be able to kill an infinite amount of HFS?
(As in constantly replenishing)

I hope that if I am right, (or at least close) that Toady doesn't hate me for spoiling his hard works to keep this secret.

[smjjames]

Someone will figure out a way eventually, it's human nature. Which is why things in MMORPGS sometimes end up bieng used in a way that they weren't origionally intended for, whether it's items or game behavior.

It will also depend on just what comes out of the HFS.

[umiman]

For those late to the party, HFS used to be game-ending such that there was nothing you could do about it.

So long as it continually spawns creatures with stats, you can kill it.

[Neonivek]

For those late to the party, HFS used to be game-ending such that there was nothing you could do about it.

So long as it continually spawns creatures with stats, you can kill it.

Which was sorta funny because you could deal with the reason for the game ending, though it would be tough

Though I kept my sanity by assuming the reason the game ends is due to a large scale disaster such as spontanously dying dwarves.

As for Spawning HFS, it doesn't matter since they can't do anything against a wall even if it were made of soap.

[skepticcs]

I think you guys are all in for a rude awakening when you realize what Toady is actually doing.
He's going to make the HFS truly game ending.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Since underground caves and stuff are going to be common place now, where do you think the HFS will come from?
That's right, Bottomless Pits.
Do you think you will be able to kill an infinite amount of HFS?
(As in constantly replenishing)

I hope that if I am right, (or at least close) that Toady doesn't hate me for spoiling his hard works to keep this secret.

I like the idea of "digging too deep" and unleashing something truly evil that will almost certainly wipe out your fortress, but I do not think they should have an infinite spawn. Or, perhaps, they will spawn infinitely until a certain mega HFS (think a balrog-like thing or a badass demon) is destroyed. Perhaps you will have to descend into the pit to fight this creature, along with its progeny and that will stop the attacks. This could be done in adventure, fortress, or reclaim mode.

It would be exceptionally difficult to hack through an HFS onslaught to get to this megabeast, but if there is one thing the DF community likes, its a challenge, right?

[Leafsnail]

Hmm, a Balrog to take out would be good.  Actually, an infinite spawn would be fun too - or perhaps they could release a wave every now and again, like a Goblin Siege of foul demons.