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[Neonivek]

Cloth masks- time-appropriate? Would certainly help with dust, if not necessarily inhaled toxins.

It would protect from poisons with course particles, though wetting it helps (If it is Chlorine Gas then a certain natural substance helps)

Though on the contrary it can protect you from inhaled toxins would protect you from lead dust, poison spit, or pepper sprey... Though it won't do anything for your eyes.

[Untelligent]

Have you seen what MINERS do to dragons?

To be fair, a legendary miner is essentially a champion speardwarf with a slightly weaker weapon at the moment.

[Cousarr]

Was there a specific need to preface all of those body parts in the posted raws with "RCP_"?

As both of the posted creatures have nothing but "RCP_" parts it seems to me as if it's an unnecessary prefix that just generates extra typing when coming up with new critters. Is there some difference between a "RCP_" head and a normal head that I'm not seeing? If so, will there be uses for both variants?

[Sean Mirrsen]

Yes, an RCP_HEAD does not exist in the raws. Remember, these are all generated on-the-fly. RCP_parts probably only exist in the game data (which makes me wonder, will deleting the data/objects contents still be safe?), or even in the executable itself, and cannot be modified.

Alternatively, the RCP prefix is required to let the game know which available parts can be used for creating these custom critters, as no doubt they require some special tuning to work right.

[JoshuaFH]

Are there different kinds of heads? Like there could be an RCP head and another type of head.

[Sean Mirrsen]

RCP probably means something along the lines of "Random Combination Part". So, yes, there will be different heads. If we're lucky, they'll even be different for humans and animals.

[LumenPlacidum]

Was going for Random Creature Part myself... the body parts created by the generator to be used by these creatures.

[Footkerchief]

I guess I could see negative poison effects working for some things (damage to a specific organ, necrosis, etc.), but not others (what would a negative value of blood-vomiting or blisters give you?).

This is what Neonivek and I were saying -- a negative effect would probably just cancel out the normal poison effects without doing anything special.  DF has moved beyond the stage where health is measured on a single axis, so it's pretty ambiguous what the actual reverse of necrosis would mean.  In a game with simple HP, obviously it just "heals" you.

RCP_parts probably only exist in the game data (which makes me wonder, will deleting the data/objects contents still be safe?), or even in the executable itself, and cannot be modified.

Yeah, I was guessing they'd be in the executable.

[Puzzlemaker]

I can't figure out what that eight legged newt thing looks like.  It's eight-legged.  Its hairy.  It has messy indigo hair.  Indigo as in, purple hair.

It also stands upright?  What's with the humanoid plan position tags?

[Footkerchief]

It also stands upright?  What's with the humanoid plan position tags?

It is a little weird that they're labeled as "humanoid," but if you check the body detail plans in last year's raws preview, you'll see they don't do anything particularly human -- just simple stuff like eyes on the front of your head (okay, maybe that is a bit strange for a newt) and ribs around your organs.

[Puzzlemaker]

Huh.  Okay, I get it.  So it's just the positioning of the ribcage and head is human.

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Which means... they have an upright head?

[Footkerchief]

Huh.  Okay, I get it.  So it's just the positioning of the ribcage and head is human.

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Which means... they have an upright head?

The head positions BDP specifies the position of stuff that belongs to the head -- nose, mouth, eyes, etc.  It doesn't seem specify whether the head is held upright (think giraffe) or forward (think pig).  I think you could mod in additional BDPs to tell the game whether the neck/head are on the front of the body or on top of it, but I don't think it'd show up in the description.

[Time Kitten]

Breaking from this slightly... What I wana see eventually, is the Olmman delivering a venom that turns a dwarf into olms piece by piece, making a Man of Olms.

[smjjames]

Ribcage around the organs is standard for all vertebrates though. Also, I think I spotted a vertebrate (not vertebra or vertebrae) tag somewhere.

lol@ Time Kitten.

Edit: nm, the vertebrate tag I spotted is for a phylum, if I may call it that, of body plans. I think.

Edit: Speaking of body plans, I wonder if we could recreate the creatures from the Cambrian Explosion.

[Time Kitten]

oh, it gets better, when the man of olms is killed, it leaves behind two dozen olms as a corpse, which grow up into giant olms, which metemophisise into olmmen from feasting on the flesh of a sentient creature.