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PMantix

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #3525 on: August 05, 2009, 09:07:34 pm »

Okay, this topic is rapidly heading into FATAL territory.

Wow, I read way too much of that before forcing myself to close the tab. disturbing

...

Anyway, I'm not really so interested in having full explicit detail of dwarves sexual escapades. Dismembering, vomiting, magma..  choking enemies with their entrails..   these are the things I'm interested in. :P

I agree with the earlier post concerning this point. A simple distance check between a couple (or just same tile) before a female creature may become pregnant is sufficient in my opinion. Accompanying announcements are of course a given at this point...  but I really question the value in adding explicit details just to be explicit.

There are a lot more useful things I'd like to see completed first.

 

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #3526 on: August 05, 2009, 09:18:13 pm »

Emergency Thread Re-Railing

So, how is metabolism determined?
What does it effect?
Is there the slightest chance that a dwarf could get an overly-fast metabolism and poor energy storage?
Will said dwarf be stuck in perma eat mode?

How is energy storage determined?
Is fat burned in strenuous activity?
Would stuffing the military on cow-fried-cow be advisable before war for the extra energy?

Does different food grant different energy, or is it the act of eating?
Is there differentiation between minerals, vitamins, fats and calories?
Is it unhealthy to eat minced syrup for your only meal?
*could "minced" be replaced with a variable that could be any number of other food-prep words, as a quick fix to making cooking more interesting?
I.E. fried, baked, diced, julienned, grilled, flame broiled, pressed, salted, ect.


Will there ever be size differentiation for clothes?
What size is a dwarven child?
Are human children dwarf sized?


...That should be enough to avoid discussion of a sex-log.
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« Reply #3527 on: August 05, 2009, 09:19:28 pm »

I agree with the earlier post concerning this point. A simple distance check between a couple (or just same tile) before a female creature may become pregnant is sufficient in my opinion.

I immediately thought off creating a set of breeding chambers to measure the length of dwarven "goods".

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O=O
|D|  <- newly pregnant female dwarf over a floor grate
O=O

<three floors down>

O=O
|D|  <- male dwarf with channels to the female
O=O

That's one endowed dwarf.

Edit: Sorry, ArkDelgato
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #3528 on: August 05, 2009, 09:37:21 pm »

Okay, this topic is rapidly heading into FATAL territory.
I hate you.
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« Reply #3529 on: August 05, 2009, 09:49:47 pm »

Emergency Thread Re-Railing
Will there ever be size differentiation for clothes?

Are human children dwarf sized?


...That should be enough to avoid discussion of a sex-log.
Hrm.  While, on the one hand, size differentiation for clothes would be pretty cool from the stand-point of, "Hey, my dwarves are so fat that they can't wear any of the old clothes,"  It could get incredibly annoying from the stand-point of "I just want to build this wall!!!!!  Why are all my dwarves going to get new clothes?"

As for the human children being dwarf sized, I seem to remember Toady talking about muscular tissues granting size increases, so dwarves might even manage to be the same size as humans for some calculations.
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Only vaguely. Made of the same substance and put to the same use, but a bit like comparing a castle and a doublewide trailer.

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« Reply #3530 on: August 05, 2009, 09:51:28 pm »

I don't think the nutrition will be modelled that precisely.

Anyways, what's the status on the rope/ladders/suspended elevators/etc, especially for large open spaces?

It'll certainly be cool to have natural looking cave systems rather than a labrynthine maze of tunnels that look like they were made by insane miners. I tried the bigger so called 'older' versions of the caves, but they are just much bigger and much more labrynthine versions of the 'younger' caves.

As far as the rope ladder stuff, I can easily see the mners carrying rope with them in case they have to do some spelunking.

What about rope and pulley systems?
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« Reply #3531 on: August 05, 2009, 10:25:49 pm »

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Okay, sorry, couldn't resist.  First thing that came to mind, honestly.  Don't mind me.

Sorry for posting FATAL there, first thing that came to mind.  Though it is a good example of where these kinds of conversations can lead in geekdom...straight into the fuming maw of hell.

In more topical discourse, I would also like to hear about the rope ladders etc. thing that was mentioned.  Are we still getting them?  And, SUPER IMPORTANTLY, will we be able to link then to a lever that makes them wind up?  Because that would make really awesome adventure mode puzzles just so much more easy and, of course, Fun.

Full fledged pulley systems would be out...that would be better suited to a massive mechanics update.

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« Reply #3532 on: August 05, 2009, 10:39:00 pm »

Wouldn't be so bad of a link if it had been formatted, or correctly colored, or edited, or really, in any way readable...

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« Reply #3533 on: August 05, 2009, 10:46:14 pm »

I can see some simple pulley type systems or perhaps a belt style system bieng made with what we have right now. But yea, one thing at a time.
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« Reply #3534 on: August 05, 2009, 11:05:42 pm »

Just because I am curious, are brooks and rivers going to be changed in any way?

Last time I checked, when dworfs fell into an unchanged river, there was no way out unless you dug a ramp,

Couldnt we have some part of the river lined with ramps?

Or maybe as a brook replacement, we could have the river source tiles produce water when the level is below 3, and line the river with ramps... (ramble ramble)
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« Reply #3535 on: August 05, 2009, 11:28:52 pm »

Just because I am curious, are brooks and rivers going to be changed in any way?

Last time I checked, when dworfs fell into an unchanged river, there was no way out unless you dug a ramp,

Couldnt we have some part of the river lined with ramps?

Or maybe as a brook replacement, we could have the river source tiles produce water when the level is below 3, and line the river with ramps... (ramble ramble)

i'd rather see dwarves able to climb out of a full river or pond.  i'd also like to see nearby dwarves jump in to save a friend.
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« Reply #3536 on: August 06, 2009, 03:07:11 am »

i'd rather see dwarves able to climb out of a full river or pond.  i'd also like to see nearby dwarves jump in to save a friend.

I innerly hope the second will be implemented before the first. For hilarious Justice.
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« Reply #3537 on: August 06, 2009, 04:01:39 am »

i'd rather see dwarves able to climb out of a full river or pond.  i'd also like to see nearby dwarves jump in to save a friend.

I innerly hope the second will be implemented before the first. For hilarious Justice.

The problem is, there would be a bug in which the rescuing dwarves instantly fall asleep.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #3538 on: August 06, 2009, 05:57:42 am »

i'd rather see dwarves able to climb out of a full river or pond.  i'd also like to see nearby dwarves jump in to save a friend.

I innerly hope the second will be implemented before the first. For hilarious Justice.

The problem is, there would be a bug in which the rescuing dwarves instantly fall asleep.

Nono. Not fall asleep: Bomrek DumDum cancels climb: dangerous territory.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #3539 on: August 06, 2009, 07:44:12 am »

Oh cool, now we get to see how old our dwarves are!  I've actually been wanting that for a long time.
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