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[Mel_Vixen]

Hey we just ship you some pumps (+ our awesome windmilltech) from Siemens and build some drainage channels on the german-side. We wont get the Netherlends drowned cause we need someone to laugth at the soccer-WM.

The undergroundpeople sound awesome and we finely get some natives for the overground too (hopefully) apart from Kobolds.

[Random832]

I don't get why they built walls for that anyway - wouldn't it be easier to just drain the ocean? Pump it off the edge of the map, or boil it or something. Or use an atom smasher.

[Mel_Vixen]

The pro is that you dont have a flow which makes pumping out easyser and way faster.

Also you dont need to pump out the entire ocean if you want build only on a little batch of it.

edit:

Toady can we get a little video of the Underground features as soon as they are done? It would be nice to see them "in Action".

[Dame de la Licorne]

Toady, with the new underground layers, is there a possibility for sand to show up there as well as in the surface layers?  Along the banks of the water areas, for example?  A simple yes/no will suffice if you don't want to spoil the (potential for) surprise(s), but since sand is vital for any sort of glass operation, I was curious.

[Dwarfu]

...gimmeh sand...

Excellent question, Dame, hats off to you.

[Mel_Vixen]

It is good question indeed.

Toady will there be some sort of semi-chasms? So chasm like formations that lead into a cave(-lakes) rather then to the nothingness beyond - like if the ceiling of said cave just collapsed?

Like in this (underwater) case:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Such a place would also be a nice spawnpoint for evil underwater/Ampibic critters.

[Zironic]

That just frightens me. It's like a mouth in the ground.

[Lord Aether]

But really awesome, still.

[Krash]

These kinds of awesome additions make me feel like donating again

[KaelGotDwarves]

I'm already planning on my Hell world mod, where demons and other monsters constantly attack from the deep.

mwahahahahahaha

[Tormy]

Nice, it looks like that depopulation won't be an issue anymore! ->
04/20/2009
"The next step is to get those placed in the layers so that it has a very large pool of critters to draw from, something that could theoretically be exhausted but wouldn't happen in practice in dwarf mode, as they don't have to send every last critter after you while they breed back up and you can't currently hunt all of them down (at which point the entire world will be opened up and the exhaustion of local critters won't matter so much, even assuming this is the only angle of attack from below, which isn't the case)."

Good news! 

[B0013]

Two questions for the wall of answers:

Will the new underground layer be exportable as a detailed map?

How will the descriptions fit in adventure mode? something like "l" > "a - elf swordsman" > "d - description"?

[Footkerchief]

New devlog:

04/21/2009: The animal people civilizations are now placed in the layers, associated to large populations, and I added the map revealing mechanism that I mentioned back on the 3rd. I took my first adventurer down into an abandoned fort that had penetrated an underground layer and walked over to the next world map square, so that all seems to be working. Next up likely the attack revamp.

So what did the new implementation of map revealing end up looking like?  It did occur to me that maybe you could do some rough LOS stuff, like only do LOS calcs for dwarves on the fringe of revealed areas.

[Fieari]

By "attack revamp" is that a combat thing, or is it code to make the critters attack in waves/in response to dumping/whatever?

[Footkerchief]

By "attack revamp" is that a combat thing, or is it code to make the critters attack in waves/in response to dumping/whatever?

99% sure it's the latter.