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Neonivek

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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #315 on: February 06, 2009, 12:51:59 pm »

Zombie opposition to salt is just general Evil Stomping. Salt also works on Demons, Ghosts, and evil spirits as well.

Miasma is a bit more then a bad smell... Toady is definately going to attach Diseases to it down the road. Expect your Butchers to get ill.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #316 on: February 06, 2009, 01:18:07 pm »

butchers should eventually become immune.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #317 on: February 06, 2009, 01:30:41 pm »

On the more mundane side of breath weapons, if z-axis is supported well enough it would probably be possible to code in whales blowing water in the air and that one kind of fish spitting down bugs to eat.

Sounds dandy!

However, it seems a bit off that the only way to employ inhaled poisons is with breath weapons. An "aura" system might be visually cluttering, but surely there must be other ways to use inhaled poisons?

For example, plants that explode, or trees that periodically "pollinate" the area with an equivalent breath weapon; maybe gaseous body layers could carry inhaled poisons that might transfer when leaked. At the very least, collapse dust and smoke ought to have some effect.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #318 on: February 06, 2009, 01:42:32 pm »

^^^ A lot of that came up in this thread.  Basically all of the crafting professions could stand to generate some kind of dust or another -- sawdust for woodworking, rock dust from stoneworking, etc.  Mining ought to generate rock dust too, of course.  Of course, most of those dust types would be irritants at most, with poisonous properties reserved for a few special materials, i.e. poisonous minerals, ores of heavy metals, etc.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #319 on: February 06, 2009, 03:08:10 pm »

trees that periodically "pollinate" the area with an equivalent breath weapon

Dwarves with allergies @_@
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« Reply #320 on: February 06, 2009, 03:32:37 pm »

I'm so excited about being able to have my dwarves hurt/be hurt (by) things in new ways... that I have to ask: Is there a possibility for a pre-release publish with wounds?

Just curious :)
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« Reply #321 on: February 06, 2009, 03:39:32 pm »

there are going to be new options for adventure mode? Like mining, choping, and a very basic building system.

although, with the new venoms and body parts, combats in adventure mode are going to be more and more interesting...

Keep up the good work, Toady!
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #322 on: February 06, 2009, 05:06:59 pm »

What are the new entity positions?  I see references to the manager, bookkeeper, priests, guards, liason, the monarch and spouse and nobles in general, but nothing specific on anything new (other than it seems gobbos will worship/follow megabeasts now).
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« Reply #323 on: February 06, 2009, 05:11:34 pm »

It's a pity that ingested poisons aren't on the list. I want my philosopher to drink hemlock :(
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #324 on: February 06, 2009, 05:15:17 pm »

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Soldiers that are standing down should sort out their equipment according to their settings, trading up if proper, generally sort out their belongings

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With materials changing so much about equipment, how are you planning on handling the Soldier's trading up to better equipment? Obviously, a fine Steel sword is an upgrade to a fine Iron sword. But what about a Masterwork Steel hammer compared to an Adamantine hammer? Or a basic Iron shield vs a high quality Copper one?

Mostly I'm trying to figure out what the rule of thumb will be for what equipment to make. I realize even you might not have an answer to this until you play around with stuff some more, but I'm really curious how all of this will work.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #325 on: February 06, 2009, 05:37:51 pm »

I know I might be behind on this one, and that it's been brought up about 50 times, but in the spirit of the previous post I'd like to know if bronze weapons (and armor too, I suppose) are going to be more effective than iron weapons under the new systems being implemented, as in reality bronze is  actually a sturdier material than base iron, although not steel.  Does anyone know?
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« Reply #326 on: February 06, 2009, 05:44:18 pm »

butchers should eventually become immune.

They would if Miasma was a disease that couldn't mutate.

Unfortunately they would be rather vulnerable if you don't take proper care of the butchery.
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« Reply #327 on: February 06, 2009, 09:59:36 pm »

On the more mundane side of breath weapons, if z-axis is supported well enough it would probably be possible to code in whales blowing water in the air and that one kind of fish spitting down bugs to eat.

As for iron vulnerability, I think elves should be exempt. As a vanilla playable race, they shouldn't have that many horrible weaknesses; having to start with wooden weapons is bad enough. I think they're more Tolkien-elves than folklore-elves, anyway.

Tolkein's elves are still based on folklorish elves, it's just Nordic mythology rather than Celtic. (IIRC, Danish "alfs" are not allergic to iron, by the way)
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« Reply #328 on: February 06, 2009, 10:06:08 pm »

Yeah but Celtic elves I think are killed by living... No wait... I think I am mixing up a specific kind of Celtic elf.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #329 on: February 06, 2009, 10:39:59 pm »

Well in basis the iron alergic elves are still Keltic/Germanic but are in the subgroup of the Island-Kelts meaning North Britain, Scottland and the wonderfull ireland.

Norse Mythologie is btw an subgroup of the germanic tribes paganism says the wiki.
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