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[Neonivek]

Besides, Toady's response time to bugs is MUCH better then most game developers *cough cough*

So we will only have to live with game crippling bugs for like a week tops

[Metalax]

Bad things are going to happen.

Heh. Couldn't resist.

Yes this next update looks like it will have loads of the things I've been wanting for ages, and with toady saying that he plans to work on some of the top suggestions next, that should hold us until the next long wait in the dev sequence.

[G-Flex]

I can't even guess what the comparable 'sleeping sickness' bug will be.  Seeing how complicated the bodies are, I guess something like 'rampant hair growth renders all dwarves immobile masses of beard' or 'misplaced decimal causes kittens to have meter-thick skin', but I'd guess that the body stuff will get the most testing.  It will probably be something more innocuous seeming.

I can see there possibly being a few little creature design problems that go unnoticed; for instance, don't Satyrs currently lack eyes? It might take a while for anyone to notice that unicorns have plaid tails or something, and would hardly be a priority fix.

[Felblood]

Judging from the devnotes, Toady has already conquered the "dwarves are subsumed and destroyed by their own hair" problem, at least from the design standpoint, and I doubt anyone in the vanilla raw will suffer from exploding organ syndrome, at any temperature where they can survive anyway.

However, there is only one toad, and harder to reproduce bugs, like one in every ten thousand unicorns having plaid tails, will get through somewhere.

[Savok]

Familiarity with individual weapons, attachment to them, weapon mentions in legends

Chapion speardwarf: Adamantine spear? But i love my pointy wooden stick!

Ah, but an adamantine spear really should be a wooden stick with an adamantine point. His spear shall be reforged, combining old and new in a mighty weapon fit for a dwarf.

[Aqizzar]

Familiarity with individual weapons, attachment to them, weapon mentions in legends

Chapion speardwarf: Adamantine spear? But i love my pointy wooden stick!

Ah, but an adamantine spear really should be a wooden stick with an adamantine point. His spear shall be reforged, combining old and new in a mighty weapon fit for a dwarf.

Reforge a wooden stick?

A beloved weapon of Astil Uristbomrek has been destroyed!
Astil Uristbomrek, Spearmaster, is throwing a tantrum!

[Neonivek]

He just needs to use my "Warping" Anvil!

It allows you to forge wood, rock, and bone as if it was metal!

[Foa]

I'll like to have a Prison Anvil, petrify entities in metal, and release them on will, stick that in your sphincter and smoke it, terracotta army!

[Spey]

I can't even guess what the comparable 'sleeping sickness' bug will be.  Seeing how complicated the bodies are, I guess something like 'rampant hair growth renders all dwarves immobile masses of beard' or 'misplaced decimal causes kittens to have meter-thick skin', but I'd guess that the body stuff will get the most testing.  It will probably be something more innocuous seeming.

I can see there possibly being a few little creature design problems that go unnoticed; for instance, don't Satyrs currently lack eyes? It might take a while for anyone to notice that unicorns have plaid tails or something, and would hardly be a priority fix.

surely it wont be much of a problem, since we will just be able to edit the raws ourselves

[Hectonkhyres]

I'll like to have a Prison Anvil, petrify entities in metal, and release them on will, stick that in your sphincter and smoke it, terracotta army!

An anvil I'm not sure about. It seems... a little hoaky.
I would, however, be interested in having a 3x3 spell circle that petrifies anything (without sufficient spell resistance) that is standing on top of it when it is activated, turning it into an inanimate statue. Elephant statues, elven caravan statues, sieging goblin statues, etc. I would petrify all of my legendary warriors in full armor to await the day I need them most.

Imagine being the poor goblin mook to march into a room lined with the statues of great dwarven heros... only to realize they aren't statues... and they are waking up.

[SirHoneyBadger]

Hecatonkhyres: I'll see your "spell circle", and raise you a "...but if the circle is broken, whatever's inside automatically wakes up, reverting back to their original motives--or, if they've been petrified beyond a certain amount of time (a month, maybe? a year tops), they'd just be crazier than a shithouse rat, and no use to anyone, save perhaps as the equivalent of a wandering rogue monster who's presence you were taking advantage of.

Use of some kind of rare magical artifact-level thingy might alleviate that, allowing you to do a "the king sleeps under the mountain, but will return someday at our hour of greatest need" dealio, like you suggested, just not every other Thursday (for balancing reasons).

[JoRo]

There'd be some interesting possibilities there if the ability to resume world gen ever gets in.  You could build your epic army at the dawn of the world, put them into suspended animation, and bring them back to usher in a glorious new age if the dwarven empires ever start to wane.

[numerobis]

I can't wait to send in bug reports play it.

Heh, ouch. Let's hope Toady won't have too much trouble with bugs, since he has to rewrite a lot of stuff over and over he might be forgetting some parts left and right. I wouldn't be surprised if a few forgotten cases popped up.

There will be lots of bugs, of course.  Occasionally I make a 100-line change and nothing breaks -- that's when I get paranoid.  Toady is changing a lot more than 100 lines here.

The fact that when we players report bugs we're actually taken seriously (unlike, say, reporting bugs in gcc) makes it actually interesting to see the bizarre things that crop up.  And then they get fixed often enough.  The first few weeks after a major change always see a relentless improvement, from something that has really cool new features but barely works, to something we can play for months with little new to report.

[numerobis]

one in every ten thousand unicorns having plaid tails

As long as the relative value of plaid unicorn tail leather goods is high, that would be an awesome feature, not a bug.  Especially if you can breed the unicorns to select for plaid tails.

[Hectonkhyres]

Well, first of all what the spell circle does would probably depend on the craftsmanship of the damn thing. A -Circle of Petrification- would just turn things to stone if triggered. Do not pass go, do not collect four hundred dollars, spend the rest of existence as a rock. It can not be transformed back without some real high level magic being cooked up. The sort you only use if you accidentally stoned your king and which will likely require the better part of a year's income for your fortress.

A +Circle of Petrification+ is a bit better. Things can be transformed back while on the circle... and with inanimate objects its fine. All it costs is the time it takes for your runeworker to reset the thing. Anything that was alive is now dead and many things like food lose a quality level due to being frozen in carbonite for two years.

A *Circle of Petrification* lets petrified living creatures return to the living alive... but ill, injured, and severely insane. Some sit there gibbering, others want to eat your head. Food and other perishables do not lose quality levels.

A ≡Circle of Petrification≡ allows your living creatures to come back merely sick as a dog. This is psychological fatigue and they will be fine after a night's sleep, a good beer, and a hearty turtle roast. Just don't expect them to be good for much before then.

A ☼Circle of Petrification☼ allows your living creatures to come back perfectly fine: they step out of the circle like only a second passed before, ready to kick fifteen kinds of ass.

Higher quality levels should also have a higher chance of kicking out stoned victims of a higher value stone: Marble or obsidian instead of mudstone, magnetite instead of obsidian, etc. Perhaps your stoned king gets transformed into a hunk of raw adamantine and you have to make a hard choice. Or perhaps your baron gets transformed into the same and you have a remarkably easy one.