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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14415 on: March 16, 2010, 10:24:44 pm »

The problem with rock crystal being difficult to find is due to part of DF's geological simulation. The area around your fort is going to have a lot of a specific mineral, or very little--probably none--of it. There's a lot of possible gems, so the likelyhood that your mountain contains the only one you can use for crystal glass is rather slim.


An interesting idea, wonder if it's been asked.

Can a poison be made that changes a victim from one species to another, so as to spread a monster infection (Such a lycantrophy), or on to create a zombie or some species (I can think of a few things that could be modded in to be sure) on death?

It's been asked many times before in this thread alone, and the answer is no. Poisons cannot alter the creature type in any way, and creatures can only become corpses or items on death. Presumably you could get a creature to drop a sort of venomous ferret or something, since vermin are technically creatures AND items, but you wouldn't be able to relate it to the original creature being infected by something.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14416 on: March 16, 2010, 10:36:29 pm »

Its however on the to-do list, on the far future todo list.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14417 on: March 16, 2010, 10:41:35 pm »

is there any way that uncut gems could be traded for, like how sand is now going to be trade-able?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14418 on: March 16, 2010, 10:47:23 pm »

is there any way that uncut gems could be traded for, like how sand is now going to be trade-able?

Entity trade items are hardcored and based on availability.

So yes, but it requires Toady.

You can probably make an enitiy trade an item then have a smelter reaction change it into a n uncut gems.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14419 on: March 16, 2010, 10:52:35 pm »

The problem with rock crystal being difficult to find is due to part of DF's geological simulation. The area around your fort is going to have a lot of a specific mineral, or very little--probably none--of it. There's a lot of possible gems, so the likelyhood that your mountain contains the only one you can use for crystal glass is rather slim.

I don't think I've ever had a fortress where I couldn't find Rock Crystal. Man, that is really wierd now that I think about it. Perhaps the [GLASS] tag interferes with it being brought by traders.
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« Reply #14420 on: March 16, 2010, 10:56:25 pm »

rough rock crystal is a gem, not necessarily having anything to do with glass.
i have gotten fortresses where i could trade for cut rock crystal.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14421 on: March 17, 2010, 12:11:10 am »

Thing is, when you get rock crystal on your map, you get lots! It makes up for itself.
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« Reply #14422 on: March 17, 2010, 12:13:22 am »

i wish that there was some way to make crystal glass from any uncut gem. where the resulting glass item's color and value was due to the color and value of the kind of gem used.

like, a yellow diamond used would produce a high value, yellow, crystal glass object.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14423 on: March 17, 2010, 12:22:41 am »

i wish that there was some way to make crystal glass from any uncut gem. where the resulting glass item's color and value was due to the color and value of the kind of gem used.

like, a yellow diamond used would produce a high value, yellow, crystal glass object.
Those'd be Gem Windows, at the moment. No idea how three gems fit together to make a window, but whatever...
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14424 on: March 17, 2010, 12:36:44 am »

i wish that there was some way to make crystal glass from any uncut gem.

This honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Carving small objects out of gems makes sense, sure, but crystal glass is glass, specifically glass made from rock crystal, which is very pure quartz.

That's why it works. Glass is silica, and so is quartz. Sand used in glassmaking is basically just really fine quartz.

You cannot, however, make a form of glass by just melting down whatever gems/stones you happen to find. You just get melted... well, melted whatever-it-is-you-started-with, and that's not necessarily very useful to have around. Besides, many gems are made of materials with extremely high melting points anyway.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14425 on: March 17, 2010, 12:44:35 am »

I'd even settle for the ability to make crystal glass with cut rock crystals.  The fact that you can't is a real smack to the face when you consider how relatively uncommon rock crystals are.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14426 on: March 17, 2010, 12:59:35 am »

I'd even settle for the ability to make crystal glass with cut rock crystals.  The fact that you can't is a real smack to the face when you consider how relatively uncommon rock crystals are.


Use that roughen blocks/uncut gems mod, or at least the one reaction for cut rock crystals. It does a mean thing to your smelter jobs list, but thats what the job manager is for.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14427 on: March 17, 2010, 01:03:48 am »

I don't see the difference between crystal glass, and clear glass...
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« Reply #14428 on: March 17, 2010, 01:04:33 am »

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Is the new version planned to address any of the expoity stuff, like the atom smasher, or quantum stockpiling?

I for one would like my drawbridges to do something bit more bloody then smash stuff out of existence.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: List of Remaining Items
« Reply #14429 on: March 17, 2010, 01:04:45 am »

I'm putting my over optimistic bet on next Thursday. Why? Well... I don't know. Seems like a good day i guess.
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