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Lancensis

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« Reply #12090 on: February 08, 2010, 11:39:07 am »

Well it's not like fire or magma are particularly hard materials, but monsters made of them are pretty dangerous. Just go with that.
Read The Voice in The Night by William Hope Hodgson if you want good ideas for deadly fungus
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« Reply #12091 on: February 08, 2010, 11:42:50 am »

Well it's not like fire or magma are particularly hard materials, but monsters made of them are pretty dangerous. Just go with that.
Read The Voice in The Night by William Hope Hodgson if you want good ideas for deadly fungus

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« Reply #12092 on: February 08, 2010, 11:44:11 am »

Well it's not like fire or magma are particularly hard materials, but monsters made of them are pretty dangerous. Just go with that.
Read The Voice in The Night by William Hope Hodgson if you want good ideas for deadly fungus

A Hodgson story I hadn't read or heard of ! Thanks! =)
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Lancensis

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« Reply #12093 on: February 08, 2010, 12:04:10 pm »

A Hodgson story I hadn't read or heard of ! Thanks! =)

Oh, you a fan? For the next version I'm going to do a vaguely Night-lands-ish mod.

ooooooooorrrrrrrr the Advanced D&D Monster Manual :-\
A fantasy based on Dungeons and Dragons. I wonder if anyone's ever tried that.
Anyway, I think the Fungal Shambler or whatever it was called Shambling Heap was originally based on the story I mentioned to begin with - probably with a whole lot of Swamp-Thing/Man-Beast thrown in.
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« Reply #12094 on: February 08, 2010, 12:33:21 pm »

Well it's not like fire or magma are particularly hard materials, but monsters made of them are pretty dangerous.

Fire and magma don't need to be hard (Or even of substance) to be dangerous, what with the intensive heat.

Moss and lichen, on the other hand... well, a Weremossman might be dangerous to your masonry, perhaps, but I can't see it being a real threat unless it's to The Blob level of size and weight.
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« Reply #12095 on: February 08, 2010, 01:02:52 pm »

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That's one of those requests on the table.  Off the top of my head, flasks, waterskins, quivers and backpacks are now available.  I'd say sand and glass are very likely.  And sand and glass too, yeah, since I went ahead and put them in just now.

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« Reply #12096 on: February 08, 2010, 01:13:22 pm »

I'd imagine that a magmaman would be really, really heavy.
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« Reply #12097 on: February 08, 2010, 01:29:00 pm »

No heavier than a stone golem, unless you account for the mass of the energy it contains.
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« Reply #12098 on: February 08, 2010, 01:57:48 pm »

What makes you think a stone golem wouldn't be really, really heavy?
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« Reply #12099 on: February 08, 2010, 02:07:00 pm »

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Moss and lichen, on the other hand... well, a Weremossman might be dangerous to your masonry, perhaps, but I can't see it being a real threat unless it's to The Blob level of size and weight.
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They'd probably attack not by pure force, but rather through subterfuge: sending clouds containing millions of infinitesimal spores through the air into your fort, infecting the wildlife and your dwarves, slowly converting them into more Weremossmen, while at the same time sowing the rocks with more seeds that sprout into carpets of moss,  eventually turning your fort into a great green hill, populated by shambling lichen-zombies.
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« Reply #12100 on: February 08, 2010, 02:09:14 pm »

The density of the rock and the magma would affect how much a stone golem or a magmaman weighs.

Although I'm not exactly sure what Sean is getting at with measuring the mass of the energy it contains.
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« Reply #12101 on: February 08, 2010, 02:12:52 pm »

In the event of a fort-wide flood your pumice golem can be used as a flotation device.
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« Reply #12102 on: February 08, 2010, 02:20:51 pm »

A stone golem heated to stone-melting temperatures will have more mass than a stone-cold stone golem. Because energy has mass, and molten rock has more stored energy than just a rock.
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« Reply #12103 on: February 08, 2010, 02:21:28 pm »

What makes you think a stone golem wouldn't be really, really heavy?

Because most models are cheaply made hollow shells, filled with cavity wall insulation
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« Reply #12104 on: February 08, 2010, 02:26:06 pm »

A stone golem heated to stone-melting temperatures will have more mass than a stone-cold stone golem. Because energy has mass, and molten rock has more stored energy than just a rock.

I thought you might have been talking about stored or potential energy, but wasn't sure exactly.
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