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[Lemunde]

So will the new surgeon be able to fix cats?

I think there's not going to be any vet care like plasters and such for animals in the new version.

Undecided as of a few days ago:

Are dwarves with animal care enabled going to be able to splint wardogs' broken legs and so forth, and in general make veterinary care functional?

It's one of those things that is sitting on the put-off pile and I'm not sure what's going to happen.

I believe he meant the "no breeding" kind of "fix".

If that's the case, yeah, neutering is Req509, but it's not going in for this release.

The only question I have is if we will be able to do the same with our dwarves. I want to be able to breed out specific physical traits and cultures damnit!

Hmm...  Dwarven eunuchs for your temple of Armok?

[James.Denholm]

So will the new surgeon be able to fix cats?

I think there's not going to be any vet care like plasters and such for animals in the new version.

Undecided as of a few days ago:

Are dwarves with animal care enabled going to be able to splint wardogs' broken legs and so forth, and in general make veterinary care functional?

It's one of those things that is sitting on the put-off pile and I'm not sure what's going to happen.

I believe he meant the "no breeding" kind of "fix".

If that's the case, yeah, neutering is Req509, but it's not going in for this release.

The only question I have is if we will be able to do the same with our dwarves. I want to be able to breed out specific physical traits and cultures damnit!

Hmm...  Dwarven eunuchs for your temple of Armok?

More like weeding out the red-heads, but that works too!

[Shoku]

So will the new surgeon be able to fix cats?

I think there's not going to be any vet care like plasters and such for animals in the new version.

Undecided as of a few days ago:

Are dwarves with animal care enabled going to be able to splint wardogs' broken legs and so forth, and in general make veterinary care functional?

It's one of those things that is sitting on the put-off pile and I'm not sure what's going to happen.

I believe he meant the "no breeding" kind of "fix".

If that's the case, yeah, neutering is Req509, but it's not going in for this release.

The only question I have is if we will be able to do the same with our dwarves. I want to be able to breed out specific physical traits and cultures damnit!

Seeing as most cultures are pretty disgusted by mandatory sterilization  (they even halted the practice in early Nazi Germany,) the unhappy thoughts you would get from it would be bad enough that you might as well just engineer mining accidents to kill rooms full of undesirables and their babies if you find them reproducing.

Fortunately with burrows you'll be able to easily isolate them practically as soon as they arrive thus reducing issues with dwarves losing close friends.
"Oh darn, more migrants and I don't have rooms ready for them."
"Alright, all you gingers get into the cuddle chamber. No no, you'll only be in there for the rest of the day then you can go back to your lives."
"Oh, and pull that lever right there in about two minutes."
A section of the cavern has collapsed.
"And over here you'll find the dining room."
"Yes yes, I know the drawers are full of xxpigtail sockxx-s.
They're free with the room but if you don't want them we can easily atom smash them."

[Askot Bokbondeler]

oh my... it isn't out yet and you guys are already planning on using the new version to create concentration camps and extermination chambers for redheads

[tfaal]

The real way to go about this is to create gender segregated burrows for any undesirables, kept away from the rest of the population. All the dwarves can work in the same places, just as long as there is no socialization between an undesirable and a member of the opposite sex.

[Mel_Vixen]

We were at the CC already 6 Months ago. Well toady said dwarfs should somehow take notice if they get selected for unnatural deaths. I guess this could be done by some statistics.

[tfaal]

We were at the CC already 6 Months ago. Well toady said dwarfs should somehow take notice if they get selected for unnatural deaths. I guess this could be done by some statistics.

This might actually be feasible, for cave-in deaths anyway; the game only checks for cave-ins when a tile is removed. If that tile is a support, and the cave-in kills someone, it's fairly easy to ascertain that foul play was involved, because falling and being crushed situations that almost never occur without it. Drowning deaths might be trickier, given that liquid is constantly flowing, and it's harder to trace the cause back to a given lever pull.

[Mel_Vixen]

Well you could use pure death statistics with a certain failure tollerance and certain states. Say 3 dead redheads over the average lets the dwarfs think they have just bad luck. 5 Means "there is something wrong" and 7 "Lets get out of this hellhole".

[James.Denholm]

Well you could use pure death statistics with a certain failure tollerance and certain states. Say 3 dead redheads over the average lets the dwarfs think they have just bad luck. 5 Means "there is something wrong" and 7 "Lets get out of this hellhole".

Remember, people, they can't think if they're dead.

[Dakk]

Or it could just be based on the number of non-invader/wildlife/clown-caused deaths in a given year. Also, numerous deaths happening at the same time in this way would stir unrest and suspicion on your dwarves. Dwarves should also be able to notice suspicious engineering (why the hell is there a floodgate in the back of my room anyway?) and architecture (I admit, thats a really pretty giant block of obsidiant, but why is it supported by a single support? Isn't that dangerous).

[Shoku]

The real way to go about this is to create gender segregated burrows for any undesirables, kept away from the rest of the population. All the dwarves can work in the same places, just as long as there is no socialization between an undesirable and a member of the opposite sex.

You can't realistically breed them out like that with 100 year lifespans.
Plus with my method you'll suck in more undesireables from other sites so it's ultimately more effective.

Or it could just be based on the number of non-invader/wildlife/clown-caused deaths in a given year. Also, numerous deaths happening at the same time in this way would stir unrest and suspicion on your dwarves. Dwarves should also be able to notice suspicious engineering (why the hell is there a floodgate in the back of my room anyway?) and architecture (I admit, thats a really pretty giant block of obsidiant, but why is it supported by a single support? Isn't that dangerous).

It would be damn hard for the game to figure that out when you've walled yourself in except for a bridge that drops all of the undesirables outside during a goblin siege.

Obviously deaths are expected there and it wouldn't be realistic to make equal trait ratio military forces for all of the many traits. Maybe we'd eventually make a companion utility to add those up but without that kind of thing it would be horrible trying to do that, and not even FUN.

[Blind Wolf]

Making plans for dwarven concentration camps? I've never heard of something so vile, so dispicable. Just knowing that people can do this to anything, even little computer simulation dwarves, makes me lose all faith in humanity.

I freakin' love this place.

[James.Denholm]

The thing is, just killing the gingers means that you can't use them for your labour force, something that can be done by neutering them.

[Mel_Vixen]

Hey if the Gobs can come to siege us they can after that serve as Labor-slaves - given that they survive.

 And Gingers arent just redheads. Redheads with Freckles are "Gingers". Redheads without freckles are called "Day-walker".

[Innominate]

The thing is, just killing the gingers means that you can't use them for your labour force, something that can be done by neutering them.

This makes me wonder. What is the most injured a dwarf will be able to be (in the upcoming version) and still give birth?

My guess is that it won't affect reproduction at all. A married couple, both with mutilated lower bodies, would probably pop out just as many children as a healthy couple. At least, they'd have just as many children as a couple who spent most of their lives unconscious.

Also; dwarves don't have foetal alcohol syndrome. Awesome!