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« Reply #9765 on: January 04, 2010, 01:10:32 pm »

Also, trade. Dwarves are not humans, they will never have paintings to trade.

I take issue with this statement. You do not know my dwarves. They want to trade paintings. :(
Which is fine, of course, But since underground farming can only yield one type of dye, they're going to have a hell of a time with it.
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« Reply #9766 on: January 04, 2010, 01:24:34 pm »

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« Reply #9767 on: January 04, 2010, 01:39:29 pm »


Ah yes, *that*.  I had imagined a re-writing of the current fluid dynamics.  A re-write of just how water works.  Something where hydraulics is actually represented accurately and also where it doesn't take a full year for water to flow through a channel from one side of the map to the other... oh well. 

I don't mean to imply that would be easy.  But man I would be thrilled if I heard Toady was teaming up with a fluid dynamics person to implement the ultimate hydraulics system.
Why would water without any pressure move fast?

But ya, if there was some way to get it to teleport at maybe 3 instead of 7 but stop once it was level-ish the slowly widening slopes of water wouldn't stick out as much.

Your hopes are a bit screwy though as hydraulics dudes probably don't have an especially good way of representing water in tiles like these.
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« Reply #9768 on: January 04, 2010, 01:44:29 pm »

I just want my military outpost where dwarves actually stand post!

*grabs the bit and starts chomping*
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« Reply #9769 on: January 04, 2010, 02:07:25 pm »


Ah yes, *that*.  I had imagined a re-writing of the current fluid dynamics.  A re-write of just how water works.  Something where hydraulics is actually represented accurately and also where it doesn't take a full year for water to flow through a channel from one side of the map to the other... oh well. 

I don't mean to imply that would be easy.  But man I would be thrilled if I heard Toady was teaming up with a fluid dynamics person to implement the ultimate hydraulics system.
Why would water without any pressure move fast?

But ya, if there was some way to get it to teleport at maybe 3 instead of 7 but stop once it was level-ish the slowly widening slopes of water wouldn't stick out as much.

Your hopes are a bit screwy though as hydraulics dudes probably don't have an especially good way of representing water in tiles like these.
That and Toady, being a mathematic professor, probably understand hydraulic sufficiently.  The only difficulty facing him is HOW to implement hydraulic into Dwarf Fortress without the FPS being shot to hell.
Remember, one of the most difficult problem for computer to simulate is fluid dynamics (if you try to do it realistically).
Though I think the current issue with Dwarf Fortress' fluid dynamic is that water seems to have a really high viscosity (which will result in water flowing really slow down a channel).  Of course, this may be an artifact of the fluid being represented in 1/7 chunks (low viscosity fluid will spread to a thin film rapidly, while tracking it in 1/7 chunk inherently slows it's rate of spread).
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« Reply #9770 on: January 04, 2010, 02:59:57 pm »

I don't know, do you just designate the entire fortress for engraving for the hell of it?

...I like engravings...
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« Reply #9771 on: January 04, 2010, 03:00:49 pm »

Looks really close to done :o

I want to be able to poison my dwarves, that will be possible right?
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« Reply #9772 on: January 04, 2010, 03:02:44 pm »

Looks really close to done :o

I want to be able to poison my dwarves, that will be possible right?

Does he even have poisoning weapons in place? If he doesn't then the answer is no.
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« Reply #9773 on: January 04, 2010, 03:04:17 pm »

I don't remember if you can poison weapons (though I think you can transfer contaminants from surface to surface with wrestling, so it's getting closer?), but if you just want to poison your dwarves, just tell them to go and chase around some sort of creature that spits venom.  They'll get poisoned sooner or later.
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« Reply #9774 on: January 04, 2010, 03:07:33 pm »

I think I already outlined a process for coating weapons. A death chamber can be made by the same technique too.
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« Reply #9775 on: January 04, 2010, 03:19:15 pm »

As I've already said, I LIKE the idea of removing an engraved wall, and it being a giant hunk of engraving that can be placed somewhere else. Of course, it would destroy the wall as well.

An extension to this idea would be if you can order solid blocks to be made into similar engravings, that can be placed around in exactly the same manner as removed engravings.

Though, to address the "WHY DIDN'T YOU PLAN AHEAD?!" issue, I think it'd be fair for such a delicate process to take 10-20 times longer than deconstructing something normally.
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« Reply #9776 on: January 04, 2010, 03:32:37 pm »

Guys.  There hasn't been anything going on in H1N1 land worth talking about, sure, but that does not mean the entire Suggestion board needs to be compacted into this thread, again.  How many different ways can removing and building with engravings be rehashed, and why it being done here?  Again?
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« Reply #9777 on: January 04, 2010, 03:34:41 pm »

Thanks Sean, I haven't been reading this forum, and forgot to search...
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« Reply #9778 on: January 04, 2010, 03:40:06 pm »

I want to be able to poison my dwarves, that will be possible right?

Not with food.  You can poison them by keeping hazardous creatures around, or with dust from cave-ins (you may have to mod the rock material to be poisonous, depending on whether Toady already did that or not), or with nasty tricks like making their own blood a contact poison, etc.

I think I already outlined a process for coating weapons. A death chamber can be made by the same technique too.

I missed this too, got a link?

Guys.  There hasn't been anything going on in H1N1 land worth talking about, sure, but that does not mean the entire Suggestion board needs to be compacted into this thread, again.  How many different ways can removing and building with engravings be rehashed, and why it being done here?  Again?

Yeah, I don't know either.  I already mentioned that there's an active Suggestions topic about it right now, but I guess it's no longer cool to discuss stuff there or something.
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« Reply #9779 on: January 04, 2010, 03:42:06 pm »

I think I already outlined a process for coating weapons. A death chamber can be made by the same technique too.

he, sean mirrsen, outlined a process for coating weapons...
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