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[Sean Mirrsen]

My guess is you could reasonably get away with just one point in wound dressing and diagnosis (since if your medic is going to be at all useful, he'll practice those a lot), but the rarer (and more critical) stuff like bone setting should be spent more points on.

[tfaal]

As for toolless surgery - don't forget, the dwarves now have nails!

This is Koganurist, a dwarf-nail scalpel. All the craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. On the item is an image of Onul Nilcatten "the Nailless Surgeon" by Onul Nilcatten. Onul Nillcatten is screaming.

[smjjames]

The real issue to figuring it out is whether to make a dedicated doc with only medical skills or to make a hybrid of skills.

[madjoe5]

I also have a feeling the 'walking on crutches' is going to end up a pretty easy skill to level up, given my forts.

Would a legendary Crutch walker (or watever they would be called), would they walk relatively faster, slower or the same speed if they dropped their crutches?

I'd like to see instances where people break everyone's legs and train all dwarves to legendary, just for a possible speed boost.

[Orkel]

I'll probably choose some random peasant dwarf and injure him intentionally over and over again, so that my doctors and surgeons get practise and skill.

[Im_Sparks]

I'll probably choose some random peasant dwarf and injure him intentionally over and over again, so that my doctors and surgeons get practise and skill.

This.
I'm going to take soap miners, recruit them, drop them off bridges and let my surgeons perform nazi experimentation perfectly valid surgery on them until they become Houses.

[RedKing]

...which means you will have about 500 statues of triangles, cheeses, donkeys, and that shitty artifact leather thong littering your courtyards so that you could get 10 -statues- of dwarves for your mausoleum.

the beat goes on, i guess?  Something to be said for leaving things to the imagination, lest we demand control of our newfound specificity.

Don't forget recursive, self-referencing statues. "This is a statue of a bear and a mountain. The bear is going over the mountain."

That's not recursive man.
"This is a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue of a statue depicting a bear and a mountain, a bear is climbing over the mountain."

It was supposed to be a reference to the recursive kids' song, "The bear went over the mountain". Reference fail on my part, I guess.

It would be sweet if you could perform medical experiments on captive enemies to train up your dwarves. (Although, the dwarf-dropper sounds like it will be a lot of fun too)

Urist McDabblingDoctor has amputated two goblin arms from the captive goblin's body.
Urist McDabblingDoctor has detached two ears from the captive elf's head.
Urist McDabblingDoctor has reattached two severed goblin arms to the captive elf's head.
Urist McDabblingDoctor has created a freak of nature!

Urist McMengele has created Kelethbrakuk, a legendary elf-skin lampshade!

so while the patient was waiting for a splint to be constructed in the workshops the caretakers left him to die of thirst.

This isn't a bug. This is actually hyper-realism. I've been in that hospital, I think.

[LordDemon]

Is there any plan to allow dwarfs to practise medical skills, either with live (captured enemies) or dead (non rotted corpses or dwarfs/enemies) practise "equipment".

[Footkerchief]

Is there any plan to allow dwarfs to practise medical skills, either with live (captured enemies) or dead (non rotted corpses or dwarfs/enemies) practise "equipment".

Not in the next version, but probably eventually:

Hmm i have a question to the surgeons and Docs.

How can we train them? Would it be possible to get corpses (Animals, Siegers, dead tantrumers) on the table for training them? Could you entwine that with with a taxidermist like profession.

Right now you have to have one ready or train them the hard way.  The suggestion is reasonable, and I know in a lot of the material on ancient doctors it constantly referred to people either experimenting on corpses openly or sneaking off to get some work in on them.

[Lancensis]

Ought to be able to fake it in, with a custom workshop/reaction, though.

[Footkerchief]

Ought to be able to fake it in, with a custom workshop/reaction, though.

That's an interesting idea.  You'd need a lot of corpses to see much skill gain though, and it might not work at all, depending on how the reagent syntax interacts with the new corpse objects.

[madjoe5]

Ought to be able to fake it in, with a custom workshop/reaction, though.

Yea, what's stopping us from making a "medical practice workshop". In it there would be labours such as "Practice Diagnosis" or "Practice Sutricing" that use the respective skill, and consume an unrotted corpse, but produce nothing.

[RedKing]

Ought to be able to fake it in, with a custom workshop/reaction, though.

That's an interesting idea.  You'd need a lot of corpses to see much skill gain though, and it might not work at all, depending on how the reagent syntax interacts with the new corpse objects.

This is DF. Corpse supply should not be a problem. 

(Especially if you don't require them to be dwarfy. "Don't worry, I learned how to do this by studying lots of dead marmots!")

[Sean Mirrsen]

Doctor Zoidberg comes to mind...

[Name Lips]

Ought to be able to fake it in, with a custom workshop/reaction, though.

Yea, what's stopping us from making a "medical practice workshop". In it there would be labours such as "Practice Diagnosis" or "Practice Sutricing" that use the respective skill, and consume an unrotted corpse, but produce nothing.

Produce nothing? What a waste of good parts! It should produce the same things as a butcher's shop, except it skills up medical skills instead of Butchering.