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[Hardrada]

I agree with Untelligent, building stairs down is the quickest and easiest solution to this issue, and within my idea of the abilities of dwarven masons too.

Even if you insist on rope ladders I don't believe they should have to restrict the types of creatures that can use them in this release, if Toady wants to hold off adding that in until it won't cause pathfinding issues that would be fine by me.

[Rowanas]

I don't see a need for rope ladders ever, honestly. It seems undwarvenly and pointless.

[Toady One]

I've copied down the questions from reply ~8775 to ~9775, and I still need to get to 10937 as it stands.  So, it'll be a few days yet, but it is a work in progress.

[ToonyMan]

Hi Toady!

You feel fine now?

[Neonivek]

Hi Toady!

You feel fine now?

Wow your Avatar perfectly fits the feeling of the post (assuming the same one I am seeing is the one that the person who reads it is seeing now)

[CobaltKobold]

Oh snap, that eternally turquoise item under Map Features finally got greened out.

Which means...it's Tummy Time.

...weren't there only 3 items in Map Features before?

that would be a ladder, right? english is not my first language

Only vaguely. Made of the same substance and put to the same use, but a bit like comparing a castle and a doublewide trailer.

I think I imagine precarved stairs. I can imagine dwarves trying to use stone instead, but I don't know if they'd manage to drop it in intact.

[madjoe5]

Oh snap, that eternally turquoise item under Map Features finally got greened out.

Which means...it's Tummy Time.

*Rubs Own Stomach*

[Neonivek]

And that is why man will always triumph over cat!

[Hellzon]

And that is why man will always triumph over cat!

That, and we don't chase laser pointers.

[smjjames]

...weren't there only 3 items in Map Features before?

I think you're right, the thing that was blue earlier was a single somewhat vague thing relating to whatever else Toady wanted to do with it and it got replaced by these two:
# Easy to find features (if you want lots) throughout all Z levels, arranged to permit ample area for a fortress
# Features spanning multiple world map squares

Or maybe one of those and the bit about underground resources.

[madjoe5]

Here's a question I don't think has been asked, I did do a search for it so sorry if I missed it:

Spoiler tag for spoilers.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Seeing as there is practically guaranteed magma in the underground, does that mean that there is practically guaranteed naturally occurring obsidian?

Aside from the much higher chance of dwarf manufactured obsidian of course.

Because searching for a good obsidian site for my mega constructions can kill off my half assed attempts to play more often than not. It also might mean a significantly better chance of getting both marble and obsidian, for plan "Dwarven chess featuring goblin prisoners".

You have given me the idea of a life-sized chest board, with statues and a checkered black/white area. Depending on how designation of statues works, I might try to have two side, with statues that are distinct colors and actually are horses/kings/bishops etc... Now I really want to create one with an elf side and an opposing dwarf side.

[Footkerchief]

...weren't there only 3 items in Map Features before?

I think you're right, the thing that was blue earlier was a single somewhat vague thing relating to whatever else Toady wanted to do with it and it got replaced by these two:

I think you're right, but the replacement happened a long time ago.  It's been at 5 items since last April or something.

[Rockphed]

Only vaguely. Made of the same substance and put to the same use, but a bit like comparing a castle and a doublewide trailer.

This will be sigged now.

Also, just think how many problems could be solved with one way ladders!  For one thing, it would make animal husbandry much easier as the animals could be confined to a Z-level only accessible by ladder.  Then when the dwarves want some beef, they send the butcher down the ladder where he proceeds to kill and put away a half dozen cows.  Alternatively, he could pit a half dozen cows and then go down a ladder that leads somewhere accesible to the rest of the fort and proceed with the butchering.

[SirPenguin]

...weren't there only 3 items in Map Features before?

I think you're right, the thing that was blue earlier was a single somewhat vague thing relating to whatever else Toady wanted to do with it and it got replaced by these two:

I think you're right, but the replacement happened a long time ago.  It's been at 5 items since last April or something.

He just changed it today actually. It was 3 before. I remember, because I checked that section probably once a day since Toady was better, even though I could have just looked at the Last Edit section

[smjjames]

huh? theres a last edit section? what do you mean? Like theres a list of whats been edited?