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Theoclymenus

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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2009, 10:04:16 am »

Chitterlings are made out of intestine. The thought of eating them has never really bothered me.

I'd probably be okay with this cheese if I did the paper bag trick and then grilled it onto something. That way I raise the chances of killing anything that could kill me.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2009, 01:29:14 pm »

Hot dogs? Sausage?
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2009, 11:26:15 pm »

Now I love pickled pig intestines. There's an authentic Chinese restaurant in town that cooks them up just beautifully. I'm probably the only caucasian who ever orders them, but they're delicious.

They're ofcourse cleaned very thoroughly, and then pickled, then cooked, so triply safe for consumption. Probably a LOT healthier than a hotdog.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2009, 12:23:06 am »

I'd concur with the Chinese intestinal stuff probably being better than a hotdog.  Not that I've tried the pickled intestine (yet), but having visited a slaughterhouse/packing factory where a cousin works, I can attest that the hotdog has some dubious processes involved.  The meat-slurry waterfall (meatslurryfall?) was the one that made me lift an eyebrow.  It's rather exposed and must surely have a high maintenance load, and thus a high probability of something nasty slipping in and infecting the meat.

I still like hotdogs at ballgames, though.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2009, 12:34:30 am »

I had Pigeon Meat, really nutritious, super lean, tastes better than chicken and turkey, the only barrier is that it is thought to be very dirty, on the contrary, the highly adaptable bird ( figuratively the Play-Doh of life ) is very well kept.
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« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2009, 03:41:57 am »

Wild pigeons carry some nasty stuff, though.

And I'm fine with intestines in sausage; after all, they're only using the casing, and it's the small intestine, not the large. Big difference there.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2009, 04:43:46 am »

Outside of the US, pigeon is generally thought of as a food bird, much like chicken. I wouldn't eat a wild one, atleast not one that's been living on the streets of a major city, but a healthy one that's been kept and fed for a month or two would probably be fine.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2009, 05:26:44 am »

Although pigeons are considered the rats of the sky, pigeon breast is really nice, (eww not in that way you sickos). I have only tried it once and that it was a pigeon specifically breed for eating so it wasn't dirty as Foa pointed out. My family is actually having a bit of a problem with pigeons at the moment with them crapping all over our car. A giant (kinda) palm tree is overhanging our driveway from the neighbors property and is a feeding/mating ground for about a dozen pigeons. I've been shooting the bastards with my air rifle, stunning them so they drop out of the tree and then letting my cat eat them. However this doesn't solve the problem as every time I kill one another comes in to take its place. Ah well enough off-topicness from me, I think a need to go to sleep before I get carried away, off on another tangent.
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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2009, 07:32:52 am »

AFAIK until plastic was invented all sausages were made from intestines ... so were condoms and some other items.
So far I've seen ...
a) a "yugoslav" grill restaurant near where I live (the world's best burgers, raznjici, cevapcici, and hmmm ... gurmanska pleskavica, basically a burger patty stuffed with ham and cheese); they have "grilled intestine" on the menu, but I was too much of a coward to try that.

(And too focused on liver wrapped in pork net (pig's caul ... another versatile, tasty item that many people seem to hate because it's yucky.)

b) sweetbread a.k.a calf thymus ... a delicacy here, but becoming rare; dog's food in most other countries.

c) Apparently there are several recipes for "cut up inner organs, stuff into stomach or intestine, heat until done". The Scots call it haggis and boil it; Austrians call it sausage and smoke it; apparently in Greece there's an appetizer from "cut liver and stuff in intestine, grilled" ... :-)

d) A fairly widespread food is made by insects who collect small bits of flowers, add their bodily fluids to it, and then store it ... 'honey'. (Oh well. Most Euros shiver when you tell them about eating what seems to be a rotten egg, namely the chinese 100-year-egg; most Chinese seem to hate the very idea of eating a brick of rancid cow's milk infested with mold (a.k.a. blue cheese), so I guess we shouldn't judge the dwarves for eating maggot cheese.

About the inspiration for dwarven cheese ... whenever I think of the concept, I don't know whether to gag, feel aroused, or giggle like a maniac. Imagine a pretty dwarven girl vigorously milking a foot-long, wriggling maggot until it squirts a milk-like substance. Ugh. Or mmmmmhm? Or is that just my perverted imagination?

Now I'm still curious as to what grilled intestine tastes like. I'm thinking mildly meat-flavor chewing gum?

PS Also had dove/pigeon once. At a press conference for Prince of Persia, where they'd hired some Persian caterer. Unfortunately the breast I got was only half-cooked; I mean "pink" is okay, but "dripping blood" is something I prefer a beef steak to have, not fowl. Still tasted good - darkish meat, closer to duck than to chicken, and very tender.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2009, 12:50:45 pm »

You know, I had wondered why a maggot would produce milk but I guess it's just it's way of reproduction. It secretes a nutritious substance which batmen and the like drink off the cavern floor. The tiny larvae in it grow in their intestine eating their share of the batman's meals until they become insufficient to sustain the host and they start eating each other and the innards of the victim itself. After the victim is finally dead the substances the maggots secrete then react with the rotting meat to make it smell too foul for other scavengers to want it. Any maggots that didn't get eaten by their brothers are now maggots the size of your forearm and slither from the reeking remains to breed and eat whatever else they can find in the darkness


You can't drink the milk raw and the traps are baited with meat. It all comes together. The finished cheese would of course be entirely dead, as are any other dishes made from the milk
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2009, 03:56:37 pm »

AFAIK until plastic was invented all sausages were made from intestines ... so were condoms and some other items.
So far I've seen ...
a) a "yugoslav" grill restaurant near where I live (the world's best burgers, raznjici, cevapcici, and hmmm ... gurmanska pleskavica, basically a burger patty stuffed with ham and cheese); they have "grilled intestine" on the menu, but I was too much of a coward to try that.

(And too focused on liver wrapped in pork net (pig's caul ... another versatile, tasty item that many people seem to hate because it's yucky.)

b) sweetbread a.k.a calf thymus ... a delicacy here, but becoming rare; dog's food in most other countries.

c) Apparently there are several recipes for "cut up inner organs, stuff into stomach or intestine, heat until done". The Scots call it haggis and boil it; Austrians call it sausage and smoke it; apparently in Greece there's an appetizer from "cut liver and stuff in intestine, grilled" ... :-)

d) A fairly widespread food is made by insects who collect small bits of flowers, add their bodily fluids to it, and then store it ... 'honey'. (Oh well. Most Euros shiver when you tell them about eating what seems to be a rotten egg, namely the chinese 100-year-egg; most Chinese seem to hate the very idea of eating a brick of rancid cow's milk infested with mold (a.k.a. blue cheese), so I guess we shouldn't judge the dwarves for eating maggot cheese.

About the inspiration for dwarven cheese ... whenever I think of the concept, I don't know whether to gag, feel aroused, or giggle like a maniac. Imagine a pretty dwarven girl vigorously milking a foot-long, wriggling maggot until it squirts a milk-like substance. Ugh. Or mmmmmhm? Or is that just my perverted imagination?

Now I'm still curious as to what grilled intestine tastes like. I'm thinking mildly meat-flavor chewing gum?

PS Also had dove/pigeon once. At a press conference for Prince of Persia, where they'd hired some Persian caterer. Unfortunately the breast I got was only half-cooked; I mean "pink" is okay, but "dripping blood" is something I prefer a beef steak to have, not fowl. Still tasted good - darkish meat, closer to duck than to chicken, and very tender.

This post made me hungry!

Especially the liver and caul, and the thymus. I don't think I've tried sweetbreads yet. Atleast I don't remember if I had...

Intestine tastes somewhat like really good sausage, which makes sense, since that's what sausage is stuffed into. It's a little strong, but not unpleasantly so. Other than that, I don't know how to describe it. Ofcourse, it's pickled, and cooked with greens, so it has a different flavor than it otherwise might. The texture's a bit like calimari-delicate, and slightly chewy.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2009, 04:37:32 pm »

Sweatbread is sold where I live, I am yet to try it but someday I probably will.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2009, 05:22:47 pm »

I wonder if someday, in DF, we'll see critters dropping different types of meat that can then be processed by our butchers into different cuts?

Like, if one dwarf likes liver, she could buy some elk liver from the butcher shop. Or just a steak as opposed to a roast, etc.
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Re: Inspiration for Dwarven Cheese?
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2009, 06:03:05 pm »

I wonder if someday, in DF, we'll see critters dropping different types of meat that can then be processed by our butchers into different cuts?

Like, if one dwarf likes liver, she could buy some elk liver from the butcher shop. Or just a steak as opposed to a roast, etc.

Considering that pretty much anything can have the burcherable tag... I shudder to think where that would lead. Elf-Giblets?
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