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[Slappy Moose]

I'm sure this isn't probable with the current Dwarf Fortress, but I think it could  be done in next versions.
Please hear me out, I'm not a retard when it comes to computers.

I've seen the utilities which let you change some files and select dwarves, so I thought of this for a sort of "multiplayer ish" ability.
Here's how it would work: In singleplayer dwarf fortress mode, you get some soldiers you want to attack someone, put them in a room/area, then use some sort of "invader selection" to select them all. The invader selection, once all the soldiers and animals you want to include are selected, creates a file which has the soldiers skills, weapons, etc in it.

You can take this file and send it to friends, who download it and put it in a folder called "downloaded invasions" or something. When you feel your fort is ready, you go in game and "activate" your friends invaders from a menu. THen your friends army appears somewhere and attacks you.

It's not really active multiplayer, but it would be fun trying to siege your friends base like this.
It could also let people mod in their own sieges, if they can modify the "invader" file.

Thoughts? Would this be remotely possible?

[Sowelu]

That's the most coherent multiplayer idea I've ever seen.  Only current issue is that invasions are too easy to fight off if you 'cheat' (ie, use tons of mechanisms, or water/lava, or rewalling).  But...still, neat!

[Slappy Moose]

Thanks.

It's not really multiplayer, but just an idea.

The point isn't to destroy your friends fort, it's to test traps and such, and to see whether your army can conquer your friend's base.

I would love to see someone make an epic army, and have people try to beat it.

[Btwilley]

It sounds like a way to massively dupe items. Send an army with 1 guy in masterpiece steel plate and load the "siege" 10 times and theres your free 10 masterpiece palte sets.

[Fire Tempest]

quote:Originally posted by Btwilley:
<STRONG>It sounds like a way to massively dupe items. Send an army with 1 guy in masterpiece steel plate and load the "siege" 10 times and theres your free 10 masterpiece palte sets.</STRONG>

There are already so many ways to cheat and make the game easy for yourself. If people want to abuse it, let them. The added challenge this could create for those who want a war or a new disaster I think outweighs the abuse.

[Slappy Moose]

quote:Originally posted by Btwilley:
<STRONG>It sounds like a way to massively dupe items. Send an army with 1 guy in masterpiece steel plate and load the "siege" 10 times and theres your free 10 masterpiece palte sets.</STRONG>

Well nobody is forcing you to cheat.

It is the player's decision how to play.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Btwilley:
<STRONG>It sounds like a way to massively dupe items. Send an army with 1 guy in masterpiece steel plate and load the "siege" 10 times and theres your free 10 masterpiece palte sets.</STRONG>

How about invaders loaded from a file don't drop loot?

[Bricktop]

Only, this isn't true multiplayer so cheating doesn't matter.

Who cares if people abuse it? That's their business. If you abuse it then good luck to you. In my opinion you're ruining the game for yourself. You may think you're improving the game for yourself. It doesn't matter.

The 'cheating' arguements that people are using against this are exactly the same as those that get used against things like Reveal.exe, yet people have settled down and accepted the existence of it now. It no longer matters how people want to play the game.

As for this idea, I think it is great. It would be brilliant fun to set challenges for your friends, test your defences and basically have fun.

[Kagus]

I think it should be set up so that you can send a supply caravan to a buddy's fort.  You start a fort in a jungle or forest or something, and send wood, food, or even exotic animals to your friend's desert expedition.

[Asehujiko]

If duping goods by repeated sieging is cheating because it skips the requirements of waiting for them to show up with natural sieges, then sharing seeds is cheating because you let somebody else choose your start location.

If we could also do the same with traders, it would be even more awesome. Load a pile of goods onto a mule, send them off into the distance, upload file and let people receive goods from that caravan. they can even send back the caravan with whatever goods they aquired at the target fort.

[Hague]

I'd be happy if you could just load goods on pack animals in the first place You know, for when your damned start point is smack in the middle and your magma is in one of the far corners.

[rkyeun]

You can't cheat in a one-player game.

[Tahin]

I like this idea. Caravans, too, of course. And some way to export a file of what you send back with the caravan.

[PTTG??]

I wonder if there is some way to make a utility to do this... Can dwarves be created and controlled to this extent?

No matter how this works, I hope it gets implemented!

[ilnar]

this could be done now, by stealing the code from the goblin sieges, but subbing with dwarves, and replacing the goblin siege triger with something player controlled, someone with a working knowledge of df's programming could make a siege like this quite fast, in theory,,,
would be limited to current AI on sieges tho, and would need a new civilisation made,,, say,,, "invading dwarves"