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[Philosophical Gamer]

Say you wanted to have a totally nonviolent fortress - No armor or weapons made, no monsters killed whatsoever, no goblins killed.  If a dwarf is attacked, he's just a goner, if a goblin siege arrives, you get them all in cage traps or batton down the hatches and wait til they leave.

I'm thinking the only way to accomplish this without getting slaughtered would be cage traps.  Does anyone have any other ideas?  I'm thinking that by the 5th or 6th year you'd have at least 500+ creatures/goblins in cages.

Also, getting creatures and stuff that you capture tamed would be a major goal.  And no drafting anyone, at all.

What do you think?

[Christes]

What happens to tantrumming dwarves?

Otherwise, sounds like a nice challenge.  For added fun, give each captured goblin a room.

[Philosophical Gamer]

Can tantruming dwarves be caged?  Send em to the cage room!

[Warlord255]

1. Get X-hundred caged violent things.
2. Get two champions/legendary dudes.
3. Paint a room red.

[Pilsu]

You can release caged captives outside and they will flee. Also, take their armor and weapons

[Jim Groovester]

It seems certainly doable, but what about dogs or other violent animals? Would that be permitted?

[neo1096]

What if the attacked dwarf kills his attacker via luck?

[Kardos]

What if the attacked dwarf kills his attacker via luck?

Add a 'no death via blood, suffocation or falling' rule.  Then melt them in magma.  The heat would cauterize any woods before the blood can flow, while burning at the same time.  And they wont suffocate since the lungs would be melted away.  Ye can't suffocate if ye have no lungs to breath with. 

[Yanlin]

What if the attacked dwarf kills his attacker via luck?

Add a 'no death via blood, suffocation or falling' rule.  Then melt them in magma.  The heat would cauterize any woods before the blood can flow, while burning at the same time.  And they wont suffocate since the lungs would be melted away.  Ye can't suffocate if ye have no lungs to breath with. 

Actually, that would just be another way to suffocate. Removal of the lungs.

[SmileyMan]

Hmm, you could seal your fortress inside a wall, no doors or bridges, and never interact with the outside wall.

Leave any immigrants to the mercy of the goblins/wildlife.  Just live far enough underground that you don't have to hear the screams.

Only problem I can think of is that starting dwarves don't breed, IIRC?  So your fortress would eventually die of old age.  And the belongings of all the dead stuff outside would ruin your stocktaking.

[JoshuaFH]

where the heck did you hear the founding dwarves didn't breed? That's proposterous, just to tell you.

[Yanlin]

where the heck did you hear the founding dwarves didn't breed? That's proposterous, just to tell you.

He's right you know. Dwarves don't breed. They just spawn babies.

[Deon]

I've managed to populate a fortress with 2 dwarves. I've got no migrants due to low wealth and many deaths (I went from 40+ to 2 after a failed flooding project when goblin ambush arrived; but I continued to play for the challenge), and those two bastards appeared to be male and female, and they've made ~ 5 or 6 babies before immigrants dared to arrive.

[Rhenaya]

I've managed to populate a fortress with 2 dwarves. I've got no migrants due to low wealth and many deaths (I went from 40+ to 2 after a failed flooding project when goblin ambush arrived; but I continued to play for the challenge), and those two bastards appeared to be male and female, and they've made ~ 5 or 6 babies before immigrants dared to arrive.

well what would you do all day if the only person around is from the other gender?

[Pilsu]

well what would you do all day if the only person around is from the other gender?

Form a grudge.