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Vucar Fikodastesh

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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 12:44:23 am »

How about a slightly-weaker-than-dorfs army that attacks en masse, and can swarm any base that dosen't have a "project fuck the world" lever?

They can only settle near water, that is how I cured that problem.

Hahah. We always needed a weak army that attacks en masse! Bravo!

What about a strong army that attacks en masse, like the orcs?

And, just to be constructive: I think that everyone gets to use iron, and (like many things) they can do things off-screen that they officially can't do. What is their Entity entry like? You may be able to get them to stop using metal weapons by taking away their weaponsmith and armorsmith roles. It's also possible that you'd need to give them improved_bows, like elves, to force them into wooden weapons. I don't think you can normally make stone or gem weapons, though, apart from obsidian.

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[ENTITY:MURKK]
[INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]
[CREATURE:MURKKS]
[DIGGER:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
[WEAPONITEM_WEAPON_BLOWGUN]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_AXE]
[USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
[FRIENDLY_COLOR:6:0:0]
[DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:TREE_CITY]
[LIKES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
[CAN_HAVE_MILITARY_LEADER]
[CAN_HAVE_MILITARY_SITE_LEADER]
[AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE]
[START_BIOME:ANY_OCEAN]
[START_BIOME:ANY_POOL]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_WETLAND:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_LAKE:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_OCEAN:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_POOL:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GLACIER:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:SPRING]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:SUMMER]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:AUTUMN]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:WINTER]
[GEM_PREF]
[STONE_PREF]
[AMBUSHER]
[OCEAN_PRODUCTS]
[RIVER_PRODUCTS]
[MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:400]
[START_GROUP_NUMBER:10]
[MAX_POP_NUMBER:2000]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]
[ABUSE_BODIES]
[TREE_CAP_DIPLOMACY]
[DIPLOMAT_BODYGUARDS]
[SCOUT]
[ADVENTURE_TIER:4]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FARMER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERY_WORKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PUNISH_EXILE]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:SHUN]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:LYING:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:THEFT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]

I'd rather them be this way, it makes it seem as though they can preform alchemy, and I want to release this race, so it would help the backstory, but if it must be weakened, it must be done.


[MINOR_METAL] Uses weak metal (copper) weapons and armor, Kobolds.
[WOOD_PREF] Uses wood weapons and armor, Elves.
[METAL_PREF] Uses good metal (steel) weapons and armor, Dwarves.

You don't have any so they use iron, like Humans. They can't make stone or gem weapons and armor.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 12:46:49 am by Vucar Fikodastesh »
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 07:33:11 am »


[MINOR_METAL] Uses weak metal (copper) weapons and armor, Kobolds.
[WOOD_PREF] Uses wood weapons and armor, Elves.
[METAL_PREF] Uses good metal (steel) weapons and armor, Dwarves.

You don't have any so they use iron, like Humans. They can't make stone or gem weapons and armor.

I had wood pref in there, and they used iron and copper...

Thats why I set in Stone and Gem pref. So atleast I make it look somehow glorified, I'm leaving that as it is, just becuase the bug seems interesting.
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2009, 12:18:35 pm »


[MINOR_METAL] Uses weak metal (copper) weapons and armor, Kobolds.
[WOOD_PREF] Uses wood weapons and armor, Elves.
[METAL_PREF] Uses good metal (steel) weapons and armor, Dwarves.

You don't have any so they use iron, like Humans. They can't make stone or gem weapons and armor.

I had wood pref in there, and they used iron and copper...

Thats why I set in Stone and Gem pref. So atleast I make it look somehow glorified, I'm leaving that as it is, just becuase the bug seems interesting.

Actually, I don't see WOOD_PREF in your raw.  If you added after you generated the world it wouldn't change anything.
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2009, 05:06:45 pm »

You also need the outdoor farming tag if you use wood_pref or they will use random metals.
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2009, 04:03:38 am »

Wow that was a bump. I really stopped caring for these guys, and the reason you don't see wood_pref in the raws is because that was the first trial, and Shakma, I like the random metal bringing, don't care to fix it.

These guys really are like the orcs, just more zergling like.
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2009, 02:16:08 am »

This may only be with civs that can fly, but if they only live near the ocean, they will build houses over the water, and then when you show up as an adventurer, they all fall into the water, killing everyone inside...heh-heh-heh...
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2009, 01:12:55 pm »

Oh god. I'd rather have masses of weaker zerglings. I think I'll add in [WOOD_PREF], just to make it better for me. It's really awesome to see my dwarves cleave their way through about 20 of em.

Also, if goblins appear at the same time these buggers do, are they hostile toward each other?
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Re: I need more wars!
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2009, 10:46:17 am »

Just to clarify, the random metal problem is caused by having [WOOD_PREF] with no [OUTDOOR_FARMING].
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