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[Emperor_Jonathan]

((For future games or whatever, I googled for lords of creation and got this: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?s=5d39148d2458cf5c1bcf63e588e6f160&t=97121 it's LOC2 with a way advanced ruleset, which may also lead to greater GM work.))

[Jay Kayell]

(If you guys want to I can start a new game with a slightly simplified version of that ruleset.)

[Emperor_Jonathan]

((I don't care, but I would like to play the ruleset without simplifying it.))

[Jay Kayell]

(Ok. Does anybody else want to use that ruleset? The game would most likely have to be reset though.)

[Poltifar]

((yeah, i think we should reset the game. but dont use a 'simplified' version of the ruleset, either all or none. taking only a part of it might cause yet more balance issues. although we might need to modify some parts, not really simplify.))

((EDIT: Also, if we all start as low-level gods according to those rules, i guess we'll need a pre-existing world as we wont be powerful enough to create one. thus, we definitely need a gm))

[NUKE9.13]

((One problem with that ruleset is the simple fact that, D&D RULES FTW?
I have no idea what they are talking about.
Although the underlying rules look fine. The whole god-level thing looks good; and the extended actions mean less "I do this for this many points" followed by, "wait, you can't do that for this". Also the overriding system prevents a "Yaven'Gan is cheating!" followed by "Seal him ina brick!"
But does this game really need you to say, I'm a level 19 fire-chaos-elemental-sword-sorcerer, so I can cast *blablabla*?

If that ruleset was taken without removing (most of) the need for knowing advanced D&D rules, I wouldn't play. But I support the underlying rules, and if I am the only person who doesn't know them, I won't stop you, in fact I would find it interesting to watch.

And it is time for reseting the game. Over 870 posts have frightened of new players, and old players are dropping like flies))

[Poltifar]

((yeah, i guess we should remove the D&D rules, although it will be hard to do so without remaking half the rules, as they are really linked to the D&D rules...))

[Jay Kayell]

(When I wrote simplify I meant remove the whole D&D-classes thing. I don't see any point in a god being a "level 18 fighter", and I don't think that creating a new concept or organization should create new classes, if you create magic people can become wizards, easy as that.

As for the other D&D rules, if we can come up with a simpler system we can just use that instead of them.)

[inaluct]

((I just looked at that, clicked the Planes spoiler, and it just has a hyperlink to some D&D SRD. It seems like it would be an outrageous amount of work to referee or play that.))

((Coming up with a simpler system is a good idea, though.))

[Jay Kayell]

(Yes, but that is mostly pointless descriptors when one wants to create a plane, we can ignore that too.)

[Servant Corps]

((Hey guys.

Want a highly advanced race of Bacteria and a powerful Exarch race of Bacteria, to serve your every need? Very powerful, very strong, very pure!

Bidding starts at 3 PP!))

EDIT:
"*sighs* I really do hope too much.

Anyway, I move that we leave this world to its own devices. We do not want another Yaven'Gan. Basically, we all leave, let the rules of the world run itself to its logical conclusion. As for me, I got a little...'crusade'...I have to run."

[Jay Kayell]

(Ironic that you would say that you don't want another Yaven'Gan...)

[Servant Corps]

(Ironic that you would say that you don't want another Yaven'Gan...)

(How so? I'm pretty bad at jokes.)

[Jay Kayell]

(You have created a thousand versions of him. Parallel universes...)

[Servant Corps]

(Oh.  The irony was unintended.)