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[Taffy Foxbat]

Perhaps an Iron Man or a Minotaur simply can't be stopped by 7/7 water due to height or not needing to breathe, and marking them as swimmers is the easiest way to achieve that effect.

[Neoskel]

Perhaps an Iron Man or a Minotaur simply can't be stopped by 7/7 water due to height or not needing to breathe, and marking them as swimmers is the easiest way to achieve that effect.

Bronze Colossi can't swim. Titans need to learn how to swim. Size 20 is way taller than size 7 or size 9.

Lack of breathing is covered by [NOBREATHE], which iron men (and bronze colossi) already have.

Actually now that i've looked at it awhile it looks like the intention is that iron men can swim in magma which would make sense. Unfortunately there's no way to keep them from swimming in water as well.

[G-Flex]

Is it so hard to believe that iron men are so strong that they're just doggy paddling really intensely.

also, it'd be funny for a wet iron man to slowly become a rust man.

Yes. Yes it is. There's no way it can displace water fast enough to offset it's own weight. And another thing, even if they were hollow, iron men would still sink.

Actually, a large enough iron man, if hollow, would certainly be bouyant enough to float. The total weight of the creature just has to be less than the total weight of the water it displaces. As long as it gets somewhere near floating buoyancy (like people), it would be able to swim. Granted, iron men probably AREN'T hollow, so it's a moot point.


Another nitpick: I don't believe magma men can swim, at all, despite being submerged for their entire lives. They have SWIMS_LEARNED (or whatever), and can't learn. Whether this is intentional or not, I don't know, but it prevents them from doing much.

[JoRo]

Another nitpick: I don't believe magma men can swim, at all, despite being submerged for their entire lives. They have SWIMS_LEARNED (or whatever), and can't learn. Whether this is intentional or not, I don't know, but it prevents them from doing much.

You sure?  I had one come up out of a hole and hug a few dwarves to death; can they do that without swimming?

[G-Flex]

No idea, but last I checked, they had SWIMS_LEARNED, and don't have [CAN_LEARN] or [SLOW_LEARNER], and they seem to enjoy staying put. Interpret that as you will, though.

[Neoskel]

Is it so hard to believe that iron men are so strong that they're just doggy paddling really intensely.

also, it'd be funny for a wet iron man to slowly become a rust man.

Yes. Yes it is. There's no way it can displace water fast enough to offset it's own weight. And another thing, even if they were hollow, iron men would still sink.

Actually, a large enough iron man, if hollow, would certainly be bouyant enough to float. The total weight of the creature just has to be less than the total weight of the water it displaces. As long as it gets somewhere near floating buoyancy (like people), it would be able to swim. Granted, iron men probably AREN'T hollow, so it's a moot point.

Course iron men are only human size anyways, so theres no 'large enough iron man' either.

Also, i think magma men are supposed to stay put or something. Not sure though. They manage not to fall into the magma flow at the bottom of magma pipes which is something at least.

[Nesoo]

Another nitpick: I don't believe magma men can swim, at all, despite being submerged for their entire lives. They have SWIMS_LEARNED (or whatever), and can't learn. Whether this is intentional or not, I don't know, but it prevents them from doing much.

You sure?  I had one come up out of a hole and hug a few dwarves to death; can they do that without swimming?

Are you sure that wasn't a Fire Man? They're also represented by a capital M.