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[Duke 2.0]

 I... Don't see the trolling. I see somebody pointing out an article they found interesting. So if there were any Bush supporters here, the whole show-throwing incident thread would be a trolling attempt on them?

 And yes, religion does play a big part in it. Then again, that does not take anything away from the fact: More conservatives donate to charity than Liberals. Hypocrisy? Kinda... They shout out about it a lot because they want the government to do it. I think. Conservatives have no reason to be public about their donations, because they are private things the government has no say in and thus don't need to be told about.

 Feel free to correct anything. Such titles have very broad categories, and it is impossible to attribute anything to such a group. Like saying white people are nerds because some of us are.

 

[Cheeetar]

 I... Don't see the trolling. I see somebody pointing out an article they found interesting. So if there were any Bush supporters here, the whole show-throwing incident thread would be a trolling attempt on them?

 And yes, religion does play a big part in it. Then again, that does not take anything away from the fact: More conservatives donate to charity than Liberals. Hypocrisy? Kinda... They shout out about it a lot because they want the government to do it. I think. Conservatives have no reason to be public about their donations, because they are private things the government has no say in and thus don't need to be told about.

 Feel free to correct anything. Such titles have very broad categories, and it is impossible to attribute anything to such a group. Like saying white people are nerds because some of us are.

 

I think the trolling is the "Liberals are cheapskates" title. Him/her believeing that all liberals are cheapskates. And saying so.

[Duke 2.0]

 Surely we can take such a remark in jest? Particularly in a forum including LCS, a game based on satire?

[Cheeetar]

Maybe, but it came off (to me) as being serious business.

[Fenrir]

Change the title to "Liberals butcher kittens" and I don't think anyone would mind. It's just impolite to go around insulting the quality of the trade goods they offer.

[mainiac]

If you looked through every official record in my name in every government or corporate database out there you wouldn't find evidence of a single dollar I ever gave to a charity ever.  I have however given around 5% of my total lifetime income to charity which I'm guessing puts me ahead of the curve when we ignore the millionaires.  See, I don't want my charitable donation to be tax deductible so no one needs to know.

With something like charity, I'm not going to trust any study until I see the methodology.  Did they ask people?  Because people lie if you ask how much they give.  Did they use tax returns?  Because tax returns show your inclination to file for refunds, not to give.  Are they only counting donations to organized charities or are they counting personal donations, which show different cultural perspectives on giving?  It's like IQ tests or SAT's, you aren't testing the differences in the populations, you are testing the biases in your methodology.

[lumin]

This thread feels oh so pointless, as it was not meant to be a discussion of the book but an essential trolling of the liberals of this forum. I'm glad us various nonsensicalians can weather through these experiences, but I think the forum would benefit if people would stop creating threads like this.

See, I've kind of felt the same way about all the childish threads on this forum that start with a "." or a "-" or some other nonsensical discussion.  I think the forum would benefit if we started having more serious discussions.

Does it get people riled up, yes.  Does it piss some people off, sometimes.  But at least it's educational (most of the time).

The title of my thread is no more eye-catching than seeing a "-" or some other crazy title to get people interested.

About trolling.  I've always thought the definition was wrong (invoke an emotional response for the pleasure of the troller).  I think trolling means that someone is writing a message that is very controversial.  The message isn't flawed, it's that people don't have a consolidated answer or solution for the message.  Which, in my opinion, is more reason for people to be discussing it in the first place - so we can find a solution.

When Toady calls this forum "Various Nonsense", does he mean we can't post "sensical" or serious threads?  Do they all have to be about building the largest quote block or blabbering about nothing?  I think he meant that we could post just about anything.

[Fenrir]

Did I kill this discussion?

[Servant Corps]

Studies has existed of conservatives being happier than liberals, Republicans claiming better mental health than non-Republicans, religious people being more likely to help strangers out than nonreligious people (despite being poorer than non-religious), religious people living longer than nonreligious people, blah blah blah. The problem with polls is that you're asking people, and people could lie, but in the end, that's the problem with all polls though, and you have to accept some margin of error...

In any event, So what? Just because Conservatives live a better life than Liberals does not have any bearing over what economic philosophy is correct. None at all.

[Jude]

Oh, looks like I better stop being liberal because of this

[Cheeetar]

Don't worry, become a Conservative. You'll donate much more to charity, have better mental health, help more strangers and be a happier person.

[Jude]

And I can have family values while also being a closeted homosexual too! What's not to like?

[lumin]

And I can have family values while also being a closeted homosexual too! What's not to like?

Ummm, did you just come out? 

[Jude]

And I can have family values while also being a closeted homosexual too! What's not to like?

Ummm, did you just come out? 

Yes - I am an outspoken anti-gay preacher with a large family and suburban house and Range Rover, and I was caught having anal sex in a bathroom of a truck stop

But tbh I was just doing it to fit in with other conservatives

[mainiac]

The problem with polls is that you're asking people, and people could lie, but in the end, that's the problem with all polls though, and you have to accept some margin of error...

People lying is a systematic error.  Margin of error is the predicted range that the difference between your sample's mean and the populations actual mean is.  So if I'm 95% confident that people give within 10 dollars of 200 dollars a year, I can say people give 200 dollars a year with a margin of error of 10 (at 95% confidence.)  If everyone is a liar and gave 100 dollars less, that's a systematic error of 100 dollars and I'm a very bad statistician.

The more you know.