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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Bitchslap, level 10 Imp Corporal, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 115793 turns and scored 91218 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 32 minutes and 7 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 469 out of 477 hellspawn. (98%)
 He held his right to remain violent.


 He saved himself once.

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 60/60   Experience 43554/10
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +1  ToDmg Melee +1

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 1)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Army of the Dead (Level 1)

  TaN->TaN->Bad->Rel->Rel->SM->MAD->Iro->TaN->SoB->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified BFG 9000 (11d8) [4/100] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified protective boots [2/2] (85%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified Assault Shotgun (8d3) [1/6] (T1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] red armor [1/4] (21%)
    [b] Onyx Armor [2]
    [c] shotgun shell (x70)
    [d] shotgun shell (x70)
    [e] shotgun shell (x70)
    [f] shotgun shell (x70)
    [g] shotgun shell (x70)
    [h] shotgun shell (x9)
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] phase device
    [l] homing phase device
    [m] envirosuit pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    106 former humans
    64 former sergeants
    20 former captains
    86 imps
    34 demons
    56 lost souls
    28 cacodemons
    16 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    15 hell knights
    20 arachnotrons
    4 former commandos
    2 pain elementals
    3 arch-viles
    5 mancubi
    9 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 4 he found the Assault Shotgun!
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 9 he found the Onyx Armor!
  On level 9 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 Fire -- Choose target...
   You are hit!
 You swap your weapon.
 You are hit!
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed. The Cyberdemon reloads his
 rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. You feel
 relatively safe now. Congratulations! You defeated the Cyberdemon!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 28 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 26 of those were killed.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 2 souls claim to have killed him...
 2 killed the bastard and survived.

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Was going to be a fireangel but considering I've found such an awesome shotgun early....

Also I got arachnotron caves four times in a row! Withought the BFG I would be dead.

[Farce]

Also I got arachnotron caves four times in a row! Without the BFG I would be dead.

Oh God.  I'm cringing just thinking about that.

[Graven]

I got to the Cyberdemon for the first time! On my second ever run on Not Too Rough, too! Too bad I didn't actually know I was about to face him and had no medkits, a single phase devise and a single red armour. No amount of ammochaining was going to save me, it turned out. Eh, next time, maybe...

[JoshuaFH]

I got to the Cyberdemon for the first time! On my second ever run on Not Too Rough, too! Too bad I didn't actually know I was about to face him and had no medkits, a single phase devise and a single red armour. No amount of ammochaining was going to save me, it turned out. Eh, next time, maybe...

You forgot that the Wall Trick works on Cybie as well...

With enough Firepowah, I can imagine you taking him out without ever getting hit.

[Vester]

And with a single handgun.

Okay maybe not.

[Graven]

Ok, see, this is a great problem I'm having with DoomRL. Everyone keeps talking about these "Wall Tricks TM" as if they were some sort of divine intervention and superpower-granting radiation combined, but either I'm too thick to do them correctly, or it's something alltogether more sinister. I'm going to use several quick diagrams to show how I'm trying to do the things and I'd be quite grateful if someone offers help.

B    B
XXXXXX@
X       X
X       X
In this situation, I should be able to fire at them without them firing, right? Well, either it's not working (using shotguns mostly, because with other weapons they come into melee and carve me up), or I'm not doing it right. Cacodemons, for one, love to fire at me from such positions. Another example :
       @ 
       XXXXXX
       X       X
     BX       X

Again, the impertinent demon in question often manages to fire off at least one shot at me, even with my walltrickery. Are combat shotguns especially unsuited to this task? And if so, what weapon should I use in such cases? I read a strategy guide on the DoomRL forums, but it just shows diagrams such as mine and doesn't really explain anything.

One more problem I'm having is enemies firing at me before I've seen them. This is especially true for former sergeants and imps, and even with shotgun scouting I sometimes fail to find them until I've eaten a bullet. I realise this might be an intentionally designed mechanic, in which case disregard my whimpering, but I can't help but feel I'm doing something wrong.

For example, for the Cyberdemon I did the following :
 oooooooooC
@XXX
  XXX
  XXX

The line of "o" representing my firing trajectory. He just fired a missile that hit me and destroyed part of the wall. That was on Not Too Rough, though I don't think difficulty makes enemies smarter.

What gives? Should I have fired once or twice, then retreated to the bottom of the pillar? I think, however, that he was at least as fast as me (in Gothic armour, had one spare red, too).

[JoshuaFH]

I'm leery of your diagram with the cyberdemon, since your LOS would have been impaired in that position, rendering him invisible.

A method I like to use is this:

Boooo
XXXX @
XXXX
XXXX

Standing one square away from the wall allows you to see further, and consequently allows you to fire at them from a safer position. If they get too close, retreat is also easier.

[Duke 2.0]

 Odd, that trick often allowed me to do The Wall without ever getting touched at the expense of two stacks of shotgun ammo.

And with a single handgun.

Okay maybe not.

Advanced pistol tricked out with power mods...
 It could work. With four power mods on the thing and with the perk for adding more slots you could reliably knock things back. At that point the wall trick could work.

 Also, I don't think the wall trick works on the Cyberdemon. It can always see you. It knows where you are at all times.

[3]

It doesn't, as far as my experience goes. It always knows where you are as long as it can draw a line to you, and not through any terrain. You can sit on the other side of a pillar and it won't chase you, just stand still.

This leads to some amusing situations such as me standing on one end of a 1-tile pillar, with Cybie at the other end, refusing to move, while I'm trying to decide which side to make a break from.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Bitchslap, level 11 Imp Corporal, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 136596 turns and scored 102299 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 1 minute and 50 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 601 out of 613 hellspawn. (98%)
 He held his right to remain violent.


 He saved himself 2 times.

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Explorer Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Reaper Bronze Badge
  Reaper Silver Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 39/60   Experience 52374/11
  ToHit Ranged +2  ToHit Melee +2  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 1)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 1)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Fireangel        (Level 1)

  TaN->TaN->Bad->Fin->Jug->Iro->MFa->EE->TaN->Fin->WK->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Angelic Armor [0/7] (0%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Longinus Spear (8d8)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified protective boots [2/2] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified BFG 9000 (10d8) [30/100] (A2)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified Assault Shotgun (8d3) [4/6] (T1)
    [b] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [c] blue armor [2/2] (98%)
    [d] modified red armor [4/4] (198%) (AB)
    [e] shotgun shell (x51)
    [f] shotgun shell (x70)
    [g] shotgun shell (x70)
    [h] small med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    141 former humans
    91 former sergeants
    21 former captains
    90 imps
    90 demons
    54 lost souls
    23 cacodemons
    19 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    18 hell knights
    20 arachnotrons
    8 former commandos
    1 Angel of Death
    4 pain elementals
    11 arch-viles
    7 mancubi
    2 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 9 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 10 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 14 he found the Assault Shotgun!
  On level 15 he found the Minigun!
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He nuked level 16!
  On level 16 he found the Longinus Spear!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  He nuked level 22!
  On level 22 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

   The Cyberdemon fires! You are hit! Your Angelic Armor is damaged!
 The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 The Cyberdemon fires! You hear an explosion!
 The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 The Cyberdemon fires! You are hit! Your Angelic Armor is damaged!
 You fully load the Assault Shotgun.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 The Cyberdemon fires! You dodge! Boom!
 The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
 You wear/wield : a Longinus Spear (8d8) You feel protected! The Cyberdemon
 hits you. The Cyberdemon hits you.
 You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. You feel relatively safe

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 29 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 26 of those were killed.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 3 souls claim to have killed him...
 3 killed the bastard and survived.

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If I'm not a complete bastard then I don't know who is.
I rocked the hell baby!
Two thermonuclear bombs!
Both of them discharged at the right places.
With invulnerability globes.
Funny, I was so overloaded with ammo.
At the end I had only a couple of BFG shots left.
Frickin stacks of 3 arch-viles!
Cybie killed with THE SPEAR for the points of awesome.
Triple points for the name.
Quadruple points for artifactsssssss!
And bonus points for thermonuclear destruction.
Fire angels are OK, but I don't like their play style.
They need a lot of running around, but they have blocked hellrunner.

[JoshuaFH]

Was that post meant to be read to the beat of "Rock the Casbah"? Because that's how I TRIED to read it.

[Rooster]

Noooooooooooo!
Look what you did!
You made my post from mediocre into awesome!
No!
Seriously it fits in like... I don't know what it fits like, but it does very well.
EDIT: The song I mean

[zchris13]

I mean dude don't even bother posting a win that's not either a full win, or on hard or better.

Also that song is cool.

[Vester]

At least the moment of the kill was pretty cool. Nothing says "awesome" like ramming the Spear of Destiny through Cybie's chest.

Although nuking the Angel of Death is totally anticlimactic.

[zchris13]

He nuked the mortuary.  Why? It's not even worth it if you nuke it.