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[3]

Pff, YASD. Tried to run past a Mancubus while slightly too close to a wall. That was my best shotty run yet, though.

Gonna try again now.

[Duke 2.0]

 Alright, pistols seem to do a hell of a lot better than shotgunners for me. Their speed makes sure that a single imp does not fire a MILLION fireballs as I sidestep. Also makes sure that shotgunners on the edge of my vision don't deal me 10% damage before I even see them.

 Screw it, I'm going back to the chaingun runs.

[E. Albright]

You forget that said damage is far lower if the enemy is any more than a single space away - body-rushing a Revenant or Arch-Vile that's 10 tiles away and refuses to come any closer is not fun.

Yes, but the Jackhammer is a Combat Shotgun, and suffers much less at long range than a double. Plus, there's more than one target to absorb stray shot. You don't need to close, really; just nail them repeatedly from a distance while on run.

It wasn't for nothing that I cited the Mortuary instead of the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon was less harrowing for exactly the reasons you outlined, but the Mortuary still failed to frighten.

On the subject of double shotguns: combat shotgun with double prepared or two doubles?

I'll concur precisely with Beorn and your instincts, though I will add the sidenote that if you can manage to still carry around the extra double, there are levels I'd dual-double. Mazes that aren't entirely covered in barrels, or the Halls of Carnage, ferex.

[3]

I was referring to Ampersand's comment on modified doubles, not the Jackhammer.

[beorn080]

You might even want to carry both a spare double and a spare combat. If you can't get close, you might need ten quick pumped shots from a combat. I can definitely see that coming up if you get past the cyberdemon, though even there you want to close quickly. Also in any other wide open levels, since while the combat shotgun is nice at range, its full reload is annoying, and sometimes you just want to spam shots down range.

[Aqizzar]

Dammit, I'm always getting the wrong weapons for my build.  I'm back to straight HMP game, no restrictions, but I started picking traits heading for an Ammochain build.  Lo and behold, I find an advanced double shotgun, then the Assault Shotgun.  And now my inventory is filled because I refuse to dump all this ammo I'm juggling.

[3]

Spoiler: Not a YASD. Really. (click to show/hide)

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Derek Yu, level 6 Imp Lance Corporal, killed by a former sergeant
 on level 15 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 67617 turns and scored 30244 points.
 He played for 49 minutes.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 266 out of 275 hellspawn. (96%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Berserk!


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Berserker Bronze Badge
  Berserker Silver Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/50   Experience 13510/6
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +6  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +9

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 3)
    Berserker        (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Ber->HR->HR->Bru->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   green armor [1/1] (65%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   chainsaw (4d6)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   Gothic Boots [10/10] (200%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   combat knife (2d5)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [b] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [c] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [d] combat knife (2d5)
    [e] combat knife (2d5)
    [f] combat knife (2d5)
    [g] combat knife (2d5)
    [h] combat knife (2d5)
    [i] combat knife (2d5)
    [j] phase device
    [k] phase device
    [l] phase device
    [m] envirosuit pack
    [n] technical mod pack
    [o] Phaseshift Boots [4/4] (78%)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    83 former humans
    30 former sergeants
    15 former captains
    72 imps
    25 demons
    28 lost souls
    1 cacodemon
    4 barons of hell
    5 hell knights
    1 former commando
    1 pain elemental
    1 revenant

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 11 he found the Phaseshift Boots!
  On level 14 he found the Gothic Boots!
  On level 15 he finally was killed by a former sergeant.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood! There is shotgun shell (x8) lying here.
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You dodge! You need to taste blood!
 You feel more calm.
 The imp fires! You dodge! Boom!
 The imp hits you.
 You hit the imp. The imp dies.
 You open the door.
 You use a homing phase device. You feel yanked in an non-existing

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 139 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 123 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 And 15 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

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Regardless of the hilarity of that ending (I was doomed anyway; 16% health, no means of recovery and only half the level cleared) that run went pretty damn well, especially considering that I just decided to try AoB on a whim.

AoB is actually pretty good fun once you get going. It's still a constant uphill struggle, but the YASD ratio is far too high prior to getting the chainsaw.

[SolarShado]

Here's a tip for earning badges on the Angel runs: don't try to kill everything. When you find the stairs use them.

Sure it's the coward's way out, but you should be able to get a bit deeper, and least get the bronze badges easier.

[Boksi]

I got the Assault Shotgun, the Minigun and the Firestorm Mod Pack all on the same run.

I was an Angel of Markmanship.

The only useful unique were the Gothic Boots. Hmph. At least I got an Aurora medallion out of it, thanks to me picking them all up and then dropping them after killing everything(didn't want the mobs getting to them). I kept the Firestorm on the slim chance I'd get the Anti-Freak Jackal. Can you use the Firestorm on the AFJ, anyway?

[beorn080]

I doubt it, but you could probably use it on the Grammarton.

[Boksi]

Well, whichever was the one that exploded in a single-tile radius.

[JoshuaFH]

Does anyone know the requirements to pick up the Dragonslayer? Why they wouldn't put that info in the wiki is beyond me.

[Duke 2.0]

 Say you somehow found the Trigun before the Wall and were invincible when entering, would using Angel Arm still be allowed for both the AoM and general clearing of The Wall?

[beorn080]

Yes, you would be able to use the angel arm, but you would lose the backpack still. Would be effective though.

[dragnar]

Does anyone know the requirements to pick up the Dragonslayer? Why they wouldn't put that info in the wiki is beyond me.

From what I can tell, the wiki writers don't know either.