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[Vester]

He did?

Maybe he did it out of spite. Or, you know. To complete the set?

[zchris13]

FOUR RED ARMORS, 5 SUPERCHARGES, AND AN ADVANCED BFG. GONE.

[Vester]

Definitely spite, then.

He did manage to kill Cybie. Maybe he didn't think he'd need them?

[Rooster]

Yeah I was full on resources at the time

[Graven]

Ok, I surrender. Someone please link me a competent playthrough, or at least tutorial about wall-tricking and shotty-scouting on youtube, as I've died 4 times in a row on hell's arena after, as I posted earlier, getting to Cybie on my second ever not too rough game.

 I honestly feel as if studying about inflation and aggregate supply/demand has drained the practical sections of my brain, leaving me an empty husk, an economy-spewing university-zombie.

[zchris13]

Video games are not practical.

[Graven]

Practical as in capable of understanding simple instructions rather than memorising entire passages from the monstrous textbook on Macroeconomics Seriously, it's an a4 500 page collosus weighing more than half the weights in the local gym, I could repel an entire siege by myself by just blocking the doorway with it.

[zchris13]

There has been a link to a guide several times recently.

[Duke 2.0]

 Yeah, it seems all bets are off on Hells Arena. Cacodemons don't seem interested in you after shooting them and ducking behind a pillar, so I just find a pillar close enough to the center that I can shoot from it but not close enough to see the general center monster pile and just go crazy on whatever peeks my way. Then once I'm sure they are all in a huddle, I hit the center with a combat shotgun from beyond my vision range. Only way I ever did that place without getting hit. And then I was just lucky because the monsters didn't decide to shoot.

 Also, Max Carnage is amazing to play through. Just get the ability to see monsters before they see you and they are dead.

[zchris13]

Just DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA, apparently.

[Duke 2.0]

 Of course. You just need to make sure they do not DAKKA you.

[zchris13]

Commando instantkill?

[JoshuaFH]

Hell's arena is awesome if you combine the wall trick with the Waiting Trick, which is where you use the "WAIT" command and let monsters come to you while you're in your ideal wall-tricking position. You can wait by pressing , (run) and then "." on you numpad. This'll make you wait 20 turns, or until you see a monster.

Optimally, I've gone into the INI, a file right next to the main one, and changed my wait command to instead wait for 2000 turns, which is long enough to remove the possibility of RNG unluckiness. Also, remember, to get the most out of the waiting trick, remember that monsters tend to be attracted to the center of the level, and will gravitate there if there's nothing blocking them. With this info, you can gather that an optimal wall-tricking spot is one that gives you a good vantage of the center of the level. It's all touch and feel though, so just get more experienced, then follow gut extinct.

[Duke 2.0]

 In retrospect, setting the wait time to just 100 would be better. Thus you can make better decisions as to what to do next instead of spending thousands of turns in spots that monsters don't go to. If they don't move in that spot in 300 turns then they likely will never go there. Either by never leaving that general area or gravitating away from you.

 Edit: Also, Intuition level 2 breaks AoMC. It is a broken game now. I'll probably play Ultraviolence as this, as HMP is a cakewalk. Hard monsters are injured offscreen and killed on screen, and the only real difference that matters is more ammo.
 Sweet.

[JoshuaFH]

You're not going to starve to death Duke, you can wait for as long as necessary! Do you NOT SEE my turn count in the hundred of thousands?!