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[HideousBeing]

I've been playing this game on and off since it was first posted and I still can't get past level 10. Granted, I probably have less than a week's worth of experience, but still...

Edit: Almost forgot to tell Farce this, but DoomRL CAN run under Vista if you run the batch file instead of the exe.


2nd edit: Odd, I apparently got to floor 14 once...

Here. This guys guide really helped me out: http://sylph.me.uk/doomrl/doomrl%20guide%20sylph.txt

For whatever reason I started getting to level 20+ a bunch after I read it. Experience? New knowledge? Who knows.

EDIT: This is a new guide... not that crappy old one that was made in 9.8.whatever that is linked on the wiki. Much better... read it!

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Edit: Almost forgot to tell Farce this, but DoomRL CAN run under Vista if you run the batch file instead of the exe.

It can run quite happily anyway...

[Duke 2.0]

 That guide is much better than the one posted previously because it goes more in depth on blind spots and gift dropping.

[zchris13]

Have I told you that I hate shotguns yet?

[Duke 2.0]

 They are nice to carry around in the earlier levels, but come into hell they are just a backup for groups of former humans as you whip out stronger weapons for the real problems.

[JoshuaFH]

Have I told you that I hate shotguns yet?

Blasphemy. What be the reason behind this hatred of my favorite weapons?

[Vester]

Is it feasible to use shottyman against the spiders, though? I mean, they kill me. All the time.

I hate those things.

(Also: Do you think Kornel will put the spider mastermind in the game at some point? I mean, I know he's weak and all, but it feels like something's missing...)

[Farce]

Thanks for the heads up, chaotic. 

...Except, I've just upgraded to Windows 7.  Don't suppose you know if I'll have issues with that?


Regarding stupid suicides, I wanted to explore more of a level once, but where I wanted to go was surrounded it deadly acid.  There was a section of wall jutting out of the acid, so I got out a rocket launcher and blew it up.  I thought it'd leave some non-acidy floor for me to walk on, but as it happened it did not, and I melted instantly. 

In retrospect, I might have been able to get access through a wall that WASN'T surrounded by horrible acid.  So it probably was a pretty stupid suicide.


I love me some shotguns.  The combat and double ones, at least.  Multiple shots with the combat is extremely useful, and pumping automatically if I move is pretty awesome.  The lack of oomph kinda sucks, but even on HMP former- enemies seem to die from shotties at range anyway.  Doubles kill practically everything, even at mid-long range, so it's less of an issue.  I like to put bulk mods on it anyway, though.

I usually have a chaingun as my secondary - I use it at range and when I don't have time to reload.  I've never really got to the point that I get better long-range weapons with enough ammo to actually use them.

I don't really like it - I'm pretty sure I've had former humans live through volleys from it.  :\  But it doesn't blow up all the stuff around it like rockets do, so that's cool.


I REALLY like to horde my consumables, like medpacks and stuff.  I rarely heal unless I'm like 24%-ish - I just wander around, hoping to find a health globe or other powerup like that.  It's probably killed me a couple times - I know I forgot I had a phase pack in an early Cacodemon cave that might've saved me.


Speaking of that cave, I was about to pick up an Overcharge, when a Cacodemon stepped on it so I couldn't get to it.  It was vital to my survival, so I FFFFF'd pretty hard.  I used a phase device that deposited me in a little one-way-out cave, safe from enemies.  I'd picked up a computer map, so I saw something that might save me lower down the map, but I got caught in the open by them and died. 

[HideousBeing]

Shottys are awesome... combat shottys are my favorite guns unless I have ammochain. Knockback locks and shotty scouting destroy most enemies even arachnotrons. Probably still tough to kill revnants and archviles though.

About the chainguns, farce, you need to put an accuracy mod on them (or 2) or get the eagle eye trait for them to really do any damage. Same with any rapidfire weapon really.

[JoshuaFH]

GRARRGH!

I tried my hand at medium difficulty and a shotgun build and got all the way to John Carmack on my first try!

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Jay Pounder, level 8 Demon Lance Corporal, nuked the Cyberdemon.
 on level 26 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 88601 turns and scored 64350 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 49 minutes and 15 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 402 out of 508 hellspawn. (79%)


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -5/60   Experience 25128/8
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Tough as nails   (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Army of the Dead (Level 1)

  Rel->TaN->TaN->Bad->Rel->SM->MAD->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   nothing
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   advanced rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1] (A1T2)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   protective boots [2/2] (86%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified BFG 9000 (10d8) [26/130] (B1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified double shotgun (9d3)x3 [0/2] (P1)
    [b] modified combat shotgun (8d3) [5/5] (P1)
    [c] shotgun shell (x67)
    [d] shotgun shell (x70)
    [e] shotgun shell (x70)
    [f] shotgun shell (x70)
    [g] rocket (x8)
    [h] rocket (x14)
    [i] phase device
    [j] phase device
    [k] thermonuclear bomb

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    40 former humans
    50 former sergeants
    16 former captains
    50 imps
    51 demons
    54 lost souls
    7 cacodemons
    103 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    12 hell knights
    9 arachnotrons
    3 former commandos
    3 pain elementals
    2 mancubi
    1 revenant

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena before it got too hot.
  On level 10 he found the Minigun!
  On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 23 he found the Gothic Boots!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  He nuked level 25!
  He defeated the Cyberdemon and found the TRUE EVIL!
  On level 26 he finally nuked the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 are hit! The baron of hell fires! You dodge! The missile hits the
 baron of hell. You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of
 a freed soul!
 You reload the rocket launcher with rocket. John Carmack reloads his rocket
 launcher. The baron of hell fires! You are hit! The baron of hell
 fires! You dodge! The missile hits the baron of hell. The baron of hell
 dies. The baron of hell fires! The missile hits the baron of hell.
 The baron of hell dies. The baron of hell fires! You are hit!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the baron of hell. The baron of hell dies. The baron of
 hell dies. You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream
 of a freed soul!
 You reload the rocket launcher with rocket. The baron of hell fires! The

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 4 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1 of those was killed.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 3 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 killed the bastard and survived.
 2 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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I'm surprised I did as well as I did, since early on I had been forced to use all my med packs, and all my phase devices to escape from some nasty Cacodemon ambushes. However, immediately after those ambushes, I acquired badass, then made my way into the halls of carnage, picked up my BFG, and made my way out.

Then I found, not one, but TWO Thermies on one level, and I just couldn't help but want to aim for the gold. I snatched two Invulnerability globes in a row, and hurried to the phobos arena, nuked the cyberdemon, and just couldn't make it to the stairs in time before my invulnerabilty wore off! It just spawned too far away, there was nothing I could do. I unloaded all my as much BFG into the asshole as I could, but he just wouldn't die! Then I made a last ditch effort with my rocket launcher, but it didn't help. I should've just phased away and nuked'em, taking him out with me.

[Farce]

Very impressive man!  *clap*

[zchris13]

AoB.  I hate shotguns. I hate them so much.  Damn sergeants. I was baiting a former human, I stepped next to the door to shank him with my chainsaw, and his former shotty pal blew me into next week.

[HideousBeing]

AoB.  I hate shotguns. I hate them so much.  Damn sergeants. I was baiting a former human, I stepped next to the door to shank him with my chainsaw, and his former shotty pal blew me into next week.

This is why I've never made it past level 6 in AoB! I suppose I could just run to the exit.... but.... exp!

[dragnar]

Ugh, I probably could win, but I'm way too stingy with my medkits. That, and I stubbornly refuse to ever play any game on easy mode.

[zchris13]

You can't play AoB on easy.  Only on medium and up.

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 Tom Sawyer                 Armor : red armor [4/4] (59%)                       
 Health: 100% Exp:  5/16%   Weapon: modified chaingun (1d6)x4 [40/40] (A1)     
 cautious                                                    Phobos Base  Lev8