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[Sowelu]

Also, the alternative fire method for the Rocket launcher is the Rocket Jump. You shoot the rocket a square away and it hits the ground there, propelling you a great distance instantly.

Unfortunately, Badass--one of the required perks for Fireangel--combined with any worthwhile boots and armor tends to reduce this propellant distance to absolutely squat.  Yes, I tried to use rocket jump to get across the lava caves when I didn't have an environment suit...it didn't move me a single square.

[beorn080]

And thats why you use the Phaseshift set. Though I admit I missed the badass bit, and that kinda pisses me off, since thats half the use of the Rocket Launcher now.

[HAMMERMILL]

Eh. I still play Doom, multiplayer and singleplayer with Skulltag and I design levels for it. A Doom rouge-like doesn't sound like much fun at all.

[Ampersand]

Try it.

[Gunner-Chan]

As a huge doom fan I have to say I think the rougelike is actually more fun... Though that might just be because I played Doom a LOT.

[Blaze]

I tried it on Hurt Me Plenty a few times, they didn't go so well :/.

I hate the vaults. I cracked one open and got omgwtfpwnzord by the arachnotrons inside. I barely managed to escape with a phase device, but only had 6% health left . Oh well, I screwed up with my feats anyway, so I had it coming.

Yes, I feel like a retard for not using one of my two BFGs on overload.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 X, level 9 Former Human Private, killed by a baron of hell
 on level 21 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 118593 turns and scored 62397 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 14 minutes and 1 second.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 482 out of 504 hellspawn. (95%)
 He held his right to remain violent.


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Hell Champion Medal
  Brick Bronze Badge
  Skull Bronze Badge
  Arena Bronze Badge
  Scavenger Bronze Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -1/50   Experience 38484/9
  ToHit Ranged +4  ToHit Melee +4  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 2)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 1)

  HR->HR->DM->EE->EE->Int->Fin->Fin->WK->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Phaseshift Armor [2/2] (64%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [28/40] (A1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [4/4] (90%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1] (B1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified combat shotgun (8d3) [5/5] (P1)
    [b] BFG 9000 (10d8) [20/100]
    [c] BFG 9000 (10d8) [100/100]
    [d] red armor [1/4] (24%)
    [e] modified red armor [1/4] (3%) (T)
    [f] shotgun shell (x54)
    [g] rocket (x14)
    [h] rocket (x14)
    [i] rocket (x14)
    [j] power cell (x37)
    [k] power cell (x70)
    [l] power cell (x70)
    [m] power cell (x70)
    [n] envirosuit pack
    [o] bulk mod pack
    [p] bulk mod pack
    [q] modified protective boots [2/2] (100%) (T)

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    69 former humans
    39 former sergeants
    11 former captains
    113 imps
    48 demons
    112 lost souls
    33 cacodemons
    18 barons of hell
    13 hell knights
    7 arachnotrons
    1 former commando
    10 pain elementals
    1 arch-vile
    3 mancubi
    4 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 10 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 15 he found the City of Skulls.
  He wiped out the City of Skulls.
  On level 16 he found the Phaseshift Armor!
  He nuked level 18!
  On level 20 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  Entering level 21 he was almost dead...
  On level 21 he finally was killed by a baron of hell.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the imp. You hear the scream of a freed soul!
 Fire -- Choose target...
   Boom!
 You swap your weapon.
 You prepare the plasma rifle!
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell.
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of
 hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of
 hell. The baron of hell hits you.
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell.
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of
 hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 4 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 4 of those were killed.

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Edit: I found the Blaster on level 2 of an AoM game that I started right after I died, yay!

[beorn080]

Angel of Masochism or Marksmenship? If Marksmenship, remember to keep it in your off hand so you can reload your pistol.

[Duke 2.0]

 I cannot help but imagine the prospects of roguelikes that are being made in Doom-esque engines. Imagine this roguelike merged with Doom. And by that I mean using the Doom engine with roguelike stats, equipment and level generation.

[HAMMERMILL]

I cannot help but imagine the prospects of roguelikes that are being made in Doom-esque engines. Imagine this roguelike merged with Doom. And by that I mean using the Doom engine with roguelike stats, equipment and level generation.

Thats nigh impossible to do with the limitations of the doom engine.

If you want something innovative with the doom engine, try Action Doom II ( http://action.mancubus.net/ ) Its free to download, doesn't require a copy of doom and its not even the same game anymore.

That there is a refreshing take on doom. Making some generic rouge-like with doom-themed monsters and items is crap.

[Vester]

Soooooo

You haven't tried it then?

[Blaze]

Angel of Masochism or Marksmenship? If Marksmenship, remember to keep it in your off hand so you can reload your pistol.

It was Marksmanship, I died when I got shotgunned into lava.

Also, my best AoMarksmanship run ever got cut short when I stupidly went into the Mortuary...

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 X, level 10 Imp Lance Corporal, killed by a arch-vile
 on level 22 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 115301 turns and scored 68218 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 39 minutes and 34 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 461 out of 529 hellspawn. (87%)
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!


 The world crashed on him 2 times.
 He saved himself 2 times.

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Hell Champion Medal
  Marksman Bronze Badge
  Reaper Bronze Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health -4/50   Experience 43438/10
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a gun     (Level 3)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Gun Kata         (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->DG->HR->HR->DM->MGK->SoG->Fin->Fin->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [4/4] (72%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified pistol (2d5) [6/6] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   Gothic Boots [10/10] (200%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   Trigun (3d6) [6/6]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified red armor [4/4] (117%) (B)
    [b] 10mm ammo (x60)
    [c] small med-pack
    [d] large med-pack
    [e] large med-pack
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] phase device
    [h] phase device
    [i] envirosuit pack
    [j] envirosuit pack
    [k] thermonuclear bomb
    [l] technical mod pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    43 former humans
    67 former sergeants
    21 former captains
    104 imps
    70 demons
    62 lost souls
    34 cacodemons
    15 barons of hell
    3 hell knights
    9 arachnotrons
    8 former commandos
    3 pain elementals
    8 arch-viles
    9 mancubi
    5 revenants

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 8 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 9 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he found the Trigun!
  On level 13 he found the Minigun!
  On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he found the Gothic Boots!
  He nuked level 22!
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 22 he finally was killed by a arch-vile.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

   The missile hits the arachnotron. The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the former captain. The missile hits the arachnotron.
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the former captain. The former captain dies. The missile
 hits the arachnotron. The arachnotron fires! You are hit! You are
 hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 Fire -- Choose target...
   The missile hits the arachnotron. The arachnotron dies. You dualreload
 your guns!
 Fire -- Choose target...
   Find a more constructive way to commit suicide.
 Fire -- Choose target...
   Find a more constructive way to commit suicide.
 Guns already loaded.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 20 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 19 of those were killed.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

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I hard 3 large medpacks too... Stupid archviles destroyed both megaspheres and a red armor before I could nab it..

Well, there was no way I was going to clear it since two crashes emptied my ammo supply.

[Kagus]

Making some generic rouge-like with doom-themed monsters and items is crap.

Seriously man, as a fan of the good ol' carnagefest of the original, I still highly recommend DoomRL.  It's definitely not a generic roguelike, and it still manages to retain some of that action-y feel.  Personally, I think they managed to do a rather good job of interpreting Doom into a roguelike form.

Sure, it's not the same game, but if it were then it wouldn't be all that interesting now would it?  The download's relatively small, it doesn't take long to learn the controls, and there's really nothing much you'd lose from trying it out (aside from an inordinate amount of time spent playing, but if that's happening then you're probably not going to complain too much about it). 

This is under no circumstances Angband or ADOM.  Nor is it Incursion or NetHack.  This is not Rogue.  This is DoomRL.

[Mephansteras]

After hearing people gush about this in a few other threads I decided to try it out. Quite fun! Although I got rather ticked off on my second run-through when I got trapped on a level with a giant lake of Acid inbetween me and the exit. Ah, well, still enjoyable.

[Ampersand]

You have to get creative to deal with that sort of thing. Use explosive barrels, pull levers, that sort of thing, until you devise a way in. If you can't, run and pray.

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, sadly that map just didn't give me any options. And I didn't have enough health packs to survive the entire trip. Ah, well, I just finished a run that took me down to level 10 (Hell's Armory). Did really well, but still died to an Arachnatron down there. Duel pistoling is pretty fun, especially with the Blaster and a heavily modded Advanced Pistol.