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[jamoecw]

So when does this version with actually usable menues and a working window resize come out? Cos it  says i have d13 and all of the problems are stll there.

 (On a side note: Whos awesome idea was it to change all the key bindings and ship the game with optimal init settings? It makes the game so playable! </irony>)

didn't know the game was even going to ship, good to know that it has shipped though.  that means that toady has funding from a producer, which means he might have help, and at the very least it means he gets a decent chunk of money.  good news indeed, do you know what stores are going to be carrying it?

[Baughn]

I think you need to recheck your definition of "ship".

Let's see. What would make a good one... maybe.. DF.. and Dugeon Keeper 2? Yeah, that's a match made in heaven.

..but is it het, yaoi or yuri? 


Eheh. More seriously - yes, resizing has bugs. I'm aware of that; and yes, I'm going to fix them. Eventually. They're not the most critical bugs, though; that would be the input mess (now sorted.. I think), and the memory corruption that's stopping d14. Whether resizing will also be completed before d14 depends on how much time sorting out the other issues take, which depends at least partially on my understanding of C++.

Incidentally, I have almost no understanding of C++. C, sure; other languages, sure. C++, nope. ..so, yeah.

[Andir]

the memory corruption that's stopping d14 [...] which depends at least partially on my understanding of C++.

Incidentally, I have almost no understanding of C++. C, sure; other languages, sure. C++, nope. ..so, yeah.

Corruption or Leaks?  I'll give your code a once over in the morning if I have a chance.  As it is now, when I get home, I'm going to sleep for a few hours.  It's been a long day.

[Baughn]

Corruption. There may also be leaks, but those wouldn't block d14.

Well, I think I've got a handle on it, but hints are all welcome.

[peterix]

hints are all welcome

Hint: use tree approach to memory management. A node (some object) creates branches (other objects, system resources) and keeps track of them. Delete all tracked objects in the destructor. Apply pattern over all code.
Objects that should be shared between the 'trees' need a manager that keeps track of them - use reference counting/smart pointers if you get any problems.
When you do this, you can get only pseudo-leaks when you don't delete stuff you no longer use and memory fragmentation (pretty hard to avoid with busy code... web browsers are a good example).

I'm too busy with other stuff tho, so nothing more specific I'm afraid ~_~

[Baughn]

DF-specific hints, I mean. Not something like that. Besides, DF doesn't seem to have any actual memory leaks, and it certainly doesn't have any in code I control. (Well, there's no dynamic memory allocation in there.. resizing vectors, yes, but nothing more complex)

Besides that. Trust me, I know how to manage memory. Though I'd like to say, for anything complex enough to need "managers", I'd implement a garbage collector of some sort. Definitely not reference counting; besides being slow (in most scenarios), you know how well they get along with cycles.

[Eidalac]

Let's see. What would make a good one... maybe.. DF.. and Dugeon Keeper 2? Yeah, that's a match made in heaven.

..but is it het, yaoi or yuri? 

I am so glad I hadn't started drinking my soda when I read that. 

[Nexii Malthus]

Whether resizing will also be completed before d14 depends on how much time sorting out the other issues take, which depends at least partially on my understanding of C++.

Incidentally, I have almost no understanding of C++. C, sure; other languages, sure. C++, nope. ..so, yeah.

Oh really? I could help then, I consider myself 'capable' in C++.

Edit: It only compiles in linux? I won't be able to help then, can't program without being able to compile/test

[Da King]

I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but it appears that its no longer possible to change the in game music in all the 40d# versions of the game by replacing song_game.ogg with another .ogg file with an identical name. This is rather disappointing, since there were some really enjoyable music mods for DF.

[G-Flex]

I really have no idea what would cause that. It's not like there's anything special about the included file; you should be able to drop in another and give it the same name, right?

[Baughn]

d14's not-really-out, but the latest git repository version is now basically d14. Anyone on linux who feels like testing it, go ahead.

Unfortunately, the shortcut displays are still messed up. *grumble*

[Da King]

I really have no idea what would cause that. It's not like there's anything special about the included file; you should be able to drop in another and give it the same name, right?

You should, but for whatever reason it just doesn't work at all when you do this. Replacing the file just results in silence.

[bhelyer]

I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but it appears that its no longer possible to change the in game music in all the 40d# versions of the game by replacing song_game.ogg with another .ogg file with an identical name. This is rather disappointing, since there were some really enjoyable music mods for DF.

Really? Huh. It should work, as far as I can recall, although I haven't tried it since I first ported the code to FmodEx, and changes have been made since then. It just loads the file - it doesn't make any assumptions about it's content/length/whatever. I'll have a look once I get net back to my dev machine.

[G-Flex]

I really have no idea what would cause that. It's not like there's anything special about the included file; you should be able to drop in another and give it the same name, right?

You should, but for whatever reason it just doesn't work at all when you do this. Replacing the file just results in silence.

Are you sure you renamed the file to the name of the original as well?

[Starver]

Are you sure you renamed the file to the name of the original as well?

It probably isn't relevent, in this case, but people do get caught out by Windows 'hiding' the extension, etc, etc.

"Tools | Folder Options | View" and under "Advanced Settings" untick the "Hide extensions for known file types" (at least on this flavour of Windows, so YMMV).

The number of times I've seen "foo.bat.txt" files (or similar) written by people is... well, more than a handful. (Though not enough for "If I had a penny for every... I'd be a millionaire" territory.  Which is good, because nobody is offering me a penny, so I don't feel so bad at losing out.