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Faster than 40d, no problems

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Faster than 40d, problems

72 (44.7%)

No slower than 40d, no problems

14 (8.7%)

No slower than 40d, problems

16 (9.9%)

Slower than 40d, no problems

2 (1.2%)

Slower than 40d, problems

3 (1.9%)

Doesn't work (please explain)

12 (7.5%)

Total Members Voted: 160

[Jurph]

Visit http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/, install and run the viewer, then click on report. Copy all the text in the report to a post here - preferably in a spoiler.

Fails to load on this machine:

Athlon XP 1800+
nVidia GeForce 6600GT
WinXP patched/updated


Extensions Viewer Report:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Renderer: GeForce 6600 GT/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Memory: 128 MB
Version: 2.1.2
Shading language version: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
Max number of light sources: 8
Max viewport size: 4096 x 4096
Max texture size: 4096 x 4096
Max anisotropy: 16
Max samples: 16
Max draw buffers: 4
Max texture coordinates: 8
Max vertex texture image units: 4


Extensions: 137

GL_ARB_color_buffer_float
GL_ARB_depth_texture
GL_ARB_draw_buffers
GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow
GL_ARB_fragment_shader
GL_ARB_half_float_pixel
GL_ARB_imaging
GL_ARB_multisample
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object
GL_ARB_point_parameters
GL_ARB_point_sprite
GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shading_language_100
GL_ARB_shadow
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_texture_float
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_shader
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ATI_draw_buffers
GL_ATI_texture_float
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract
GL_EXT_Cg_shader
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit
GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample
GL_EXT_framebuffer_object
GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object
GL_EXT_point_parameters
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs
GL_EXT_stencil_two_side
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texture3D
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_texture_lod
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_object
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB
GL_EXT_timer_query
GL_EXT_vertex_array
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_KTX_buffer_region
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color
GL_NV_depth_clamp
GL_NV_fence
GL_NV_float_buffer
GL_NV_fog_distance
GL_NV_fragment_program
GL_NV_fragment_program2
GL_NV_fragment_program_option
GL_NV_framebuffer_multisample_coverage
GL_NV_half_float
GL_NV_light_max_exponent
GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint
GL_NV_occlusion_query
GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil
GL_NV_pixel_data_range
GL_NV_point_sprite
GL_NV_primitive_restart
GL_NV_register_combiners
GL_NV_register_combiners2
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc
GL_NV_texture_env_combine4
GL_NV_texture_expand_normal
GL_NV_texture_rectangle
GL_NV_texture_shader
GL_NV_texture_shader2
GL_NV_texture_shader3
GL_NV_vertex_array_range
GL_NV_vertex_array_range2
GL_NV_vertex_program
GL_NV_vertex_program1_1
GL_NV_vertex_program2
GL_NV_vertex_program2_option
GL_NV_vertex_program3
GL_NVX_conditional_render
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
GL_SGIX_depth_texture
GL_SGIX_shadow
GL_SUN_slice_accum
GL_WIN_swap_hint
WGL_ARB_buffer_region
WGL_ARB_extensions_string
WGL_ARB_make_current_read
WGL_ARB_multisample
WGL_ARB_pbuffer
WGL_ARB_pixel_format
WGL_ARB_pixel_format_float
WGL_ARB_render_texture
WGL_ATI_pixel_format_float
WGL_EXT_extensions_string
WGL_EXT_swap_control
WGL_NV_float_buffer
WGL_NV_render_depth_texture
WGL_NV_render_texture_rectangle

Core features
v1.1 (100 % - 7/7)
v1.2 (100 % - 8/8)
v1.3 (100 % - 9/9)
v1.4 (100 % - 15/15)
v1.5 (100 % - 3/3)
v2.0 (100 % - 10/10)
v2.1 (100 % - 3/3)
v3.0 (33 % - 7/21)

OpenGL driver version check (Current: 6.14.11.7516, Latest known: 6.14.11.6218):
Latest version of display drivers found
According the database, you are running the latest display drivers for your video card.

Compiled vertex array support
This feature improves OpenGL performance by using video memory to cache transformed vertices.

Multitexture support
This feature accelerates complex rendering such as lightmaps or environment mapping.

Secondary color support
This feature provides an alternate method of coloring specular highlights on polygons.

S3TC compression support
This feature improves texture mapping performance in some applications by using lossy compression.

Vertex array range support
This feature improves performance in some applications by using AGP for dynamic vertex transformation.

Texture edge clamp support
This feature improves texturing quality by adding clamping control to edge texel filtering.

Vertex program support
This feature enables a wide variety of effects via flexible vertex programming (equivalent to DX8 Vertex Shader.)

Fragment program support
This feature enables a wide variety of effects via per pixel programming (equivalent to DX9 Pixel Shader.)

Texture anisotropic filtering support
This feature improves the quality of texture mapping on oblique surfaces.

Occlusion test support
This feature provides hardware accelerated culling for objects.

Point sprite support
This feature improves performance in some particle systems.

OpenGL Shading Language support
This feature enables high level shading language for shaders.

Frame buffer object support
This feature enables render to texture functionality.

Extension verification:
GL_EXT_copy_texture was not found, but has the entry point glCopyTexSubImage3DEXT
GL_EXT_subtexture was not found, but has the entry point glTexSubImage3DEXT
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glBufferRegionEnabledEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glDeleteBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glDrawBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glNewBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glReadBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_NV_half_float has the entry point glVertexWeighthNV missing!
GL_NV_half_float has the entry point glVertexWeighthvNV missing!
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideoi64vNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideoivNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideoui64vNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideouivNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glPresentFrameDualFillNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glPresentFrameKeyedNV
WGL_NV_swap_group was not found, but has the entry point wglBindSwapBarrierNV
WGL_NV_swap_group was not found, but has the entry point wglJoinSwapGroupNV
WGL_NV_swap_group was not found, but has the entry point wglQueryFrameCountNV
WGL_NV_swap_group was not found, but has the entry point wglQueryMaxSwapGroupsNV
WGL_NV_swap_group was not found, but has the entry point wglQuerySwapGroupNV
WGL_NV_swap_group was not found, but has the entry point wglResetFrameCountNV
WGL_NV_vertex_array_range was not found, but has the entry point wglAllocateMemoryNV
WGL_NV_vertex_array_range was not found, but has the entry point wglFreeMemoryNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglBindVideoImageNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglGetVideoDeviceNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglGetVideoInfoNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglReleaseVideoDeviceNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglReleaseVideoImageNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglSendPbufferToVideoNV
GL_ARB_framebuffer_object was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.11.7789
GL_ARB_half_float_vertex was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.11.7789
GL_ARB_vertex_array_object was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.11.7789
GL_EXTX_packed_depth_stencil was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.10.8126
GL_HP_occlusion_test was not found, but is available in driver version 2.0.3
GL_NV_centroid_sample was not found, but is available in driver version 6, 14, 10, 113
GL_NV_framebuffer_multisample_ex was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.10.9689
GL_NV_timer_query was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.10.8040

I can see that GL_NV_timer_query is missing, and I thought I noticed some chatter about that upthread.  Is there a way to get that extension without bumping my drivers back to the stone age?

Rendering tests ranged from 1845 - 1439 FPS on OpenGL 1.x, and 864 and 78 on OpenGL 2.0 and 2.1, respectively.

[Keldor]

It works fine for me, except that it doesn't like my keyboard format.

[Deto]

This is probably vista related, nothing works on vista anyhow, but when trying to run BC I get message:

What are you talking about? I have x64 Vista, and even the old DOS games are running on it perfectly...
It is YOUR Vista what is problematic.
..as for your problem:
Try to reinstall the visual c runtime libraries.

Works nicely now, thanks

But Vista is still huge pile of .... funky stuff. It either works, or doesn't work at all (and it usually doesn't work at all) where as XP always works, sometimes worse than other times, but it works

edit: This is talking about non-gaming things. XP works soooo much better. Dunno how Vista handles games. My laptop has so terrible 3d card I can hardly play anything anyhow

[SupSuper]

Tried this out on Vista, everything works fine for me. Set the grid size to 160x85 on fullscreen (biggest I can see on my screen), no partial print, 5000 FPS Cap. Here's some results I got (FPS is the same in menus and battles, but always goes down to half in Options screen for some reason):
50 GFPS -> 4000FPS max
80 GFPS -> 3200FPS max
100 GFPS -> 2400FPS max
150 GFPS -> 1000FPS max
160 GFPS -> 600FPS max
170 GFPS -> 400FPS max
>170 GFPS -> locks to 180FPS max, doesn't change anymore regardless of GFPS

Also tried splatting some alpha-transparency on the tileset, that seems to work too with no visible performance loss.

These are my specs:
Intel Core Duo E6300 1.8Ghz (overclocked to 3.1Ghz)
4GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM
ATI Radeon X1600 Pro PCI-E 512MB
Windows Vista Business x64 SP1

[Tormy]

This is probably vista related, nothing works on vista anyhow, but when trying to run BC I get message:

What are you talking about? I have x64 Vista, and even the old DOS games are running on it perfectly...
It is YOUR Vista what is problematic.
..as for your problem:
Try to reinstall the visual c runtime libraries.

Works nicely now, thanks

But Vista is still huge pile of .... funky stuff. It either works, or doesn't work at all (and it usually doesn't work at all) where as XP always works, sometimes worse than other times, but it works

edit: This is talking about non-gaming things. XP works soooo much better. Dunno how Vista handles games. My laptop has so terrible 3d card I can hardly play anything anyhow

I am happy that I could help. 

Well, Vista is excellent. Installing a proper Vista version is very important, if you want to have a fast&100% stable Vista OS.  I have the original x64 Vista Ultimate of course, but I've made a new iso out of it, so that new vista installation DVD is only ~1Gb. It's faster than XP with SP3. Reboot time is ~10 seconds. Everything is lightning fast..apps and games also.
How can you create a Vista OS like that? Visit this site: http://www.vlite.net/   

[Baughn]

OKay, people.

The "error in program configuration" bug is a known bug, and is solely cause by my lack of MSVC skills; Toady should have no trouble fixing it.

If you have *other* problems, please mention them. If you have that one, you can fix it by installing the Visual C++ 2008 redistributable package, which can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en

[Soulwynd]

I'm trying to push it to the limit, but I think I'm failing.
1280x1024 with 200:160grid I get 10000fps constantly. I increased the limit to 100k but I think 10k is the hard limit, can't get it past that.

I'm on Vista x64, Athlon x2 6000+, with a 8800 ultra OCed.

Now, if DF runs like that, you WIN.

Edit:
I tried to push it further to make use of my dual screen and btw, please include dual screen support on DF so you can have maybe the entire action screen in one monitor and menus/overhead map/status on the other. Right now I play DF in 2560x1024 and the split area between the monitors can get annoying when the game isn't designed for that, but I know that's my fault for trying to do that, so please, if you guys can do some work on that too, I appreciate.

2560x1024 with 200:80 grid. Still capping at 10k fps. Gigantic screenshot goodness:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Baughn]

It won't. BC pretty much only renders; DF has a bit more simulation to do.

Look at the dev blog, though.

EDIT: Also, the better your GPU, the less improvement is to be made. My computer has basically the same setup, and DFA gives me nothing on that one; don't expect vast improvements.

On the other hand, DF should already be pretty fast for you.

[Soulwynd]

Yeah, I get 500+fps at start and around 200fps with 30-50 dorfs. It's pretty nice.

Check the edit about 2 monitors tho. That would be awesome for DF, split screen support.

[Jurph]

The "error in program configuration" bug is a known bug, and is solely cause by my lack of MSVC skills; Toady should have no trouble fixing it.

(...) If you have that one, you can fix it by installing the Visual C++ 2008 redistributable package, which can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en

Thanks!  Glad you updated the front-page sticky; do you think this link should go there too, in case the thread keeps growing?

[Andir]

Nice.

(Disclaimer: This is more of a post to make sure this shows up in my "replies to your posts" link I use profusely.  I haven't actually looked at it yet.  )

[Geofferic]

Uh, I am lost.

I get the screen with all of the territories and I have no idea what to do.

I press Enter and nothing ever happens.  If I press one of the letters, it flashes that territory and gives me some info.  If I press space while a territory is flashing, it stops flashing.  Enter never does anything whatsoever, but apparently it's supposed to take me to the 'next turn'.

Help?

[Baughn]

The "error in program configuration" bug is a known bug, and is solely cause by my lack of MSVC skills; Toady should have no trouble fixing it.

(...) If you have that one, you can fix it by installing the Visual C++ 2008 redistributable package, which can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en

Thanks!  Glad you updated the front-page sticky; do you think this link should go there too, in case the thread keeps growing?

Good point.

[Baughn]

Uh, I am lost.

I get the screen with all of the territories and I have no idea what to do.

I press Enter and nothing ever happens.  If I press one of the letters, it flashes that territory and gives me some info.  If I press space while a territory is flashing, it stops flashing.  Enter never does anything whatsoever, but apparently it's supposed to take me to the 'next turn'.

Help?

Well, it's not really much of a /game/ as such, but FWIW...
Pressing enter does take you to the next turn. It's just that, having given no commands, nothing happens except your armies growing.

To attack, you have to first select a territory, then an army, then press enter (I think?), then select a country to attack, then press enter again.. or something.. you'll figure it out.

You'll probably lose your first fight. Press enter a few turns to let your army catch up to your enemies'. Then try again, somewhere else. Eventually, you'll succeed, and have two armies; a 2-on-1 fight means you win.

And that's that. Not much of a game, but just fine for hacking on peripheral DF code.

[Geofferic]

OH!  Gah.  Thanks!  lol