Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[profit]

I understand the trade guild may not allow this suggestion, but It would be nice to be able to buy uncut stones from the dwarven and human caravans.

I have some dwarves with crazy preferences and when they dont get their stones they want in a mood they become suicidal... and for some reason they like theirs uncut...

[Warlord255]

Ways to import sand would also be much appreciated.

[LegoLord]

Ways to import sand would also be much appreciated.

Or at least raw glass that could be melted into other glass items.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Personally I think all moods except those of a Gem Cutter should use cut gems, that's the 'usable' form and would be consistent with the rest of the game, a moody dwarf wont grab raw skin or a stack of pigtails when they want leather or cloth they need processed materials.

That said importing raw gems is a fine idea to be able to support your own gem cutting industry.

[G-Flex]

Cut gems shouldn't be used for moods, though, because sometimes they build things OUT of gems.

What else uses raw gems, anyway?

[Dame de la Licorne]

There is a suggestion on the eternal suggestion list: "importing sand/water/rough gems", or something along those lines.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Cut gems shouldn't be used for moods, though, because sometimes they build things OUT of gems.

Thats what the Gem Cutter would do when they have moods, they grab several raw gems and make a gem item or perfect gem.

[Draco18s]

Cut gems shouldn't be used for moods, though, because sometimes they build things OUT of gems.

This is a sapphire coffin.  It menaces with spikes of goblin bone and kitten leather.  On it is an image of a goblin and a kitten in dimple dye, the kitten is striking down the goblin.

Ok, not real, but I did get a sapphire coffer once and my friend thought I said coffin.  "Yeah, I took this fingernail sized gem and I turned it into a coffin!  We can bury our king in it!"

[Granite26]

you guys are creating a false dichotomy.  Some of them should need raw, and some should need cut

(additionally, I think 1 raw should = many cut, and the gems should be rarer, but that's just me)

[Silverionmox]

I once had a fortress (Lolôklilar, Granitepatterned) with a turquoise statue as one of the first artifacts, called "the sensitive beguiler". Oddly, the next fortress in the same world also came up with an artifact turquoise statue.

Anyway, I always thought gems represented a batch of gems, like bars represent a batch of metal bars. You can't really encrust stuff with just one gem, after all.

[Neonivek]

Logically I can't understand why they would give you Raw Gems... Sand makes sense... Chunks of certain rocks make sense.

But Raw gems? Especially with the chance they could multiply its worth by cutting it themselves?

It makes some sense if they were poor and couldn't cut themselves so I am open to the idea however

Id need some sort of... uhhh... Dang it... What is the name for something done before... Judges do it... Why can't I remember... I can feel it inside my brain but I cant get it to surface.

Ok for lack of the proper word (Brain cramp)... Proof that it has been done before

AHHH I remember now! Precidence!

[Granite26]

Not all diamond mines cut them onsite...

[Neonivek]

Not all diamond mines cut them onsite...

Yeah but they are cut by the same organisation.

If you had a Mine that you owned and they would send you Raw Gems... that would make sense

However we are speaking about another civilisation... who is selling you Raw Gems for you to keep... and they only get money in return albet less then they would if they cut them themselves.

Id think you would need a contract or something... It makes sense but not total sense... something is missing from my head.

Though some jems such as Jade could be cut twice... One to free it from the rock... the second to shape it. So Shipping uncut Jade makes sense as it in an artistic gem that needs to be shaped specifically.

[Granite26]

That's more a flaw in the value added determinations...  Raw gems should be more expensive, and the cutting process shouldn't add quite so much value.  Rather, raw gems should be worth exactly the same as no modifier cut gems (not that gems have modifiers yet, but still).

[Neonivek]

That's more a flaw in the value added determinations...  Raw gems should be more expensive, and the cutting process shouldn't add quite so much value.  Rather, raw gems should be worth exactly the same as no modifier cut gems (not that gems have modifiers yet, but still).

But your forgetting that by selling you the raw gems they are forgoing on Large Gems I think... (unless Miners do that)

They should increase their price according to their faith that they very well could have got priceless giant diamonds (Actually... the game REALLY undervalues large gems... you would think "Large Diamond" would fetch a fair price... but WOW almost nothing...)