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Author Topic: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.  (Read 1682425 times)

debvon

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13770 on: July 15, 2016, 11:17:19 pm »

Thanks for the info. I always thought the spell power bars represented when and only when a spell got stronger which made enhancers slightly confusing.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13771 on: July 15, 2016, 11:17:34 pm »

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1 (tiles) character file.

Aleric the Archmage (Deep Elf Conjurer)        Turns: 216207, Time: 1, 00:03:15

HP 182/182       AC 25     Str 10      XL: 27
MP  50/50        EV 34     Int 41      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 11374       SH 19     Dex 20      Spells: 13 memorised,  0 levels left

rFire  + + +     SeeInvis .     o - +11,+10 dagger of the Horn {venom, Noisy rF++ MR+}
rCold  + + +     Clarity  +     O - +5 faerie dragon armour {Str+3 Stlth+ Clar}
rNeg   + + +     Conserve +     N - +1 buckler {rF+}
rPois  +         rCorr    +     e - +2 helmet {Int+3}
rElec  .         rRot     .     G - +2 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     B - +2 pair of gloves of Impatience {rN+ Int+3 Stlth++}
rMut   +         Warding  .     P - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {Stlth++}
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     R - amulet of Teona Skifogh {rMut rC++ rN+}
MR     +++++                    y - ring of Ephemeral Luck {rC+ Dex+3 Int+3 Dam+3}
                                I - ring of Xom's Sleight of Hands {rPois rN+ MR++ Dex+2}

@: deflect missiles, delayed fireball, almost entirely resistant to hostile
enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy
A: shaggy fur 1
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball
}: 9/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, golden, iron, icy, bone,
abyssal


You are on level 1 of Gehenna.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 19 branches of the dungeon, and seen 94 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 2 times.
You have visited 1 Ziggurat, and seen 18 of its levels.
You have also visited: Trove and Ice Cave.

You have collected 17547 gold pieces.
You have spent 6173 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - the +4,+4 Staff of Dispater
   (You took it off Dispater on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
 o - the +11,+10 dagger of the Horn (weapon) {venom, Noisy rF++ MR+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Depths)   
   
   It poisons the flesh of those it strikes.
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It may make noises in combat.
 u - the +5,+5 mace of Brilliance {holy, rN+ AC+5 Int+5 SInv Stlth-}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
   and demons.
   
   It affects your AC (+5).
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you less stealthy.
 Q - a +0,+1 demon whip of electrocution
Armour
 e - a +2 helmet of intelligence (worn)
 v - a +2 hat of cold resistance
 B - the +2 pair of gloves of Impatience (worn) {rN+ Int+3 Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Depths)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 G - a +2 cloak of preservation (worn)
 N - a +1 buckler of fire resistance (worn)
 O - the +5 faerie dragon armour (worn) {Str+3 Stlth+ Clar}
   (You took it off the Enchantress on level 15 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you against confusion.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 P - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {Stlth++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It makes you much more stealthy.
Magical devices
 w - a wand of disintegration (7)
 S - a wand of hasting (1)
Comestibles
 n - a cheese
 F - 4 bread rations
Scrolls
 c - 2 scrolls of identify
 d - 3 scrolls of holy word
 g - 3 scrolls of fear
 C - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 H - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 K - 2 scrolls of fog
 Z - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
Jewellery
 j - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 k - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 m - the ring of Shadows {Umbra +Inv rN+ SInv}
   (You found it in a treasure trove)   
   
   [ring of invisibility]
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 p - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand
 q - the amulet of the Air {Inacc +Fly rElec EV+5 RMsl}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of inaccuracy]
   It affects your evasion (+5).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you fly.
   It protects you from missiles.
 y - the ring of Ephemeral Luck (right hand) {rC+ Dex+3 Int+3 Dam+3}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3).
 E - the ring of the Scarab {Regen +Fly rPois rN+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you fly.
 I - the ring of Xom's Sleight of Hands (left hand) {rPois rN+ MR++ Dex+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of dexterity]
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 L - the macabre finger necklace {Ward}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   [amulet of warding]
 R - the amulet of Teona Skifogh (around neck) {rMut rC++ rN+}
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)   
   
   [amulet of resist mutation]
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 X - the ring "Thiarhik" {rF++ MR+}
   (You found it on level 17 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It greatly protects you from fire.
 Y - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
Potions
 f - 6 potions of curing
 h - 6 potions of restore abilities
 r - 2 potions of heal wounds
 t - 2 potions of might
 x - a potion of agility
 z - 3 potions of magic
Magical staves
 W - an uncursed staff of conjuration
Miscellaneous
 a - a crystal ball of energy
Rods
 i - a +5 rod of ignition (11/11)
   (You found it on level 14 of a ziggurat)


   Skills:
 - Level 21.0 Fighting
 - Level 13.0 Short Blades
 - Level 0.4 Staves
 - Level 4.1 Armour
 O Level 27 Dodging
 - Level 6.0 Stealth
 - Level 15.2 Shields
 - Level 0.1 Unarmed Combat
 O Level 27 Spellcasting
 O Level 27 Conjurations
   Level 2.2 Hexes
 - Level 13.1 Charms
 - Level 17.0 Necromancy
 - Level 12.4 Translocations
 - Level 22.0 Fire Magic
 - Level 19.1 Ice Magic
 - Level 10.4 Earth Magic
 + Level 24.5 Invocations
 - Level 20.0 Evocations


You cannot memorise any spells.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Dispel Undead         Necr           ########     0%          5    None
b - Fire Storm            Conj/Fire      ########..   1%          9    None
c - Controlled Blink      Tloc           N/A          1%          7    None
d - Spellforged Servitor  Conj/Summ      ########..   1%          7    None
e - Delayed Fireball      Conj/Fire      N/A          1%          7    None
f - Glaciate              Conj/Ice       ########..   3%          9    None
g - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ########..   0%          3    None
h - Fireball              Conj/Fire      ########..   0%          5    None
i - Bolt of Cold          Conj/Ice       ########..   0%          6    None
j - Lehudib's Crystal Sp  Conj/Erth      ########..   1%          8    None
k - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   0%          7    None
l - Haste                 Chrm           ########     1%          6    None
m - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       #######...   3%          6    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
  Snake (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (6/6) Lair:7       Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Blade (1/1) Vaults:3      Crypt (5/5) Vaults:3       Tomb (3/3) Crypt:3
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (7/7) Hell            Geh (1/7) Hell
    Coc (7/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:5
 Depths (5/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:5 ?   D:6 (   D:10 :   Orc:1 :   Orc:4 *=[(   Elf:1 [   Vaults:2 !   Depths:4 !(!}%

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4 Depths:5
Pandemonium: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are covered in fur (AC +1).


Message History

It begins to drip with poison!
o - the +11,+10 dagger of the Horn (weapon) {venom, Noisy rF++ MR+}
You're wearing all the rings you can. Remove which one?
(? for menu, Esc to cancel)
< or X - the ring "Thiarhik" {rF++ MR+}
> or y - the ring of Ephemeral Luck {rC+ Dex+3 Int+3 Dam+3}
You remove the ring "Thiarhik" {rF++ MR+}.
You feel agile.
I - the ring of Xom's Sleight of Hands (left hand) {rPois rN+ MR++ Dex+2}
The +11,+10 dagger of the Horn {venom, Noisy rF++ MR+} stops dripping with poison.
b - the +4,+4 Staff of Dispater (weapon)
Aiming: Hellfire
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line
Okay, then.
It begins to drip with poison!
o - the +11,+10 dagger of the Horn (weapon) {venom, Noisy rF++ MR+}
You go down through the gate. Welcome to Gehenna!
There is a gateway to Hell here.
Char dumped to 'C:/Users/Ivan Korpalo/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Aleric.txt'.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Grand Total: 8029 creatures vanquished
notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
155593 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 7 spell: Spellforged Servitor
157524 | Tomb:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients
157582 | Tomb:1   | Noticed Sojobo
157589 | Tomb:1   | Killed Sojobo
158086 | Tomb:1   | Got a twitching copper ring
158089 | Tomb:1   | Identified the cursed ring "Vih Iloj" {+Inv rPois EV-4 Dex-2} (You found it on level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
158228 | Tomb:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
159198 | Tomb:1   | Got a steaming robe
159208 | Tomb:1   | Identified the cursed -3 robe of the Wumpus {Int+4 Acc+5} (You found it on level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
161829 | Tomb:1   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
161832 | Tomb:1   | Identified Dilaarr's Handbook of Summoning (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
163699 | Tomb:2   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
163869 | Tomb:3   | Entered Level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients
163886 | Tomb:3   | Noticed Jory
164241 | Tomb:2   | Killed Jory
165477 | Tomb:3   | Reached skill level 15 in Ice Magic
166276 | Tomb:3   | Got a golden rune of Zot
166485 | Tomb:3   | Got an iridescent broad axe
166486 | Tomb:3   | Identified the +4,+7 broad axe of Winter {chop, rF+ Int-2 SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
166644 | Tomb:3   | Got an ancient war axe
166645 | Tomb:3   | Identified the +6,+1 war axe "Lugi" {freeze, *Tele rN+ MR++ Str+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
166653 | Tomb:3   | Got a dazzling bow
166654 | Tomb:3   | Identified the cursed -1,+1 bow "Seoru" {velocity, -Cast Str+2 Int+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
166662 | Tomb:3   | Got a flickering pewter ring
166668 | Tomb:3   | Identified the ring "Jurahuiz" {Hunger- Dex+3 Int+1} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
166674 | Tomb:3   | Got a crude quarterstaff
166678 | Tomb:3   | Identified the +10,+1 quarterstaff of Oenomania {crush, Noisy rElec} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
166686 | Tomb:3   | Got a jewelled quarterstaff
166687 | Tomb:3   | Identified the +6,+5 quarterstaff "Fukhoycw" {pain, +Fly} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)
167876 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 9 spell: Glaciate
168794 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the decaying netherworld of Tartarus.
169034 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the ashen valley of Gehenna.
169111 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the Iron City of Dis.
169169 | Hell     | Received a gift from Sif Muna
169170 | Hell     | Identified Sif Muna's Handbook of the Evil Traveller (Sif Muna gifted it to you in the Vestibule of Hell)
169408 | Coc:1    | Entered Level 1 of Cocytus
169612 | Depths:4 | Voluntarily entered the Abyss.
169646 | Abyss:2  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
169992 | Abyss:3  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
170087 | Abyss:3  | Got a jewelled battleaxe
170947 | Abyss:3  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
170949 | Abyss:3  | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
170956 | Abyss:3  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
170956 | Abyss:3  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
170959 | Abyss:3  | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
171210 | Abyss:3  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
171378 | Abyss:3  | Got an abyssal rune of Zot
171500 | Depths:4 | Escaped the Abyss
172397 | Zot:5    | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
172556 | Zot:5    | Identified the +3,+5 battleaxe "Schyasow" {venom, Str+1 SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Abyss)
174077 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
174111 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
174229 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
174248 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
174278 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
174281 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
174309 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
174463 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
174731 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
174852 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
174856 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
174857 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
174860 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
175358 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
175364 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
175899 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
176051 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
176056 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
176143 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
177003 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
177022 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [an orb of fire]
177024 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). [an orb of fire]
177024 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
177231 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
177272 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
178363 | Dis:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Iron City of Dis
188725 | Dis:7    | Entered Level 7 of the Iron City of Dis
189061 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 27 in Dodging
189804 | Dis:7    | Got a brightly glowing lead ring
189846 | Dis:7    | Identified the ring of the Shining Light {+Blink MR+ Int-1 SInv Stlth--} (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
189862 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
190204 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
190611 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
191566 | Dis:7    | Noticed Dispater
191815 | Dis:7    | Killed Dispater
191979 | Dis:7    | Got an iron rune of Zot
194355 | Tar:1    | Entered Level 1 of Tartarus
194747 | Tar:1    | Gained mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [mutagenic glow]
196741 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of cure mutation]
196741 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat. [potion of cure mutation]
196741 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: You have a slow metabolism. [potion of cure mutation]
196741 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [potion of cure mutation]
196742 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of cure mutation]
196742 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of cure mutation]
196742 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: Your vision is quite blurry. [potion of cure mutation]
196742 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [potion of cure mutation]
196742 | Lair:1   | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). [potion of cure mutation]
199149 | Tar:7    | Entered Level 7 of Tartarus
199438 | Tar:7    | Got a shimmering lead ring
199441 | Tar:7    | Identified the ring of Xom's Passing Interest {Str-5 Dex+3 Dam+9} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
199452 | Tar:7    | Got a steaming crystal amulet
199454 | Tar:7    | Got a shimmering mace
199455 | Tar:7    | Identified the +9,+11 mace of Doom {crush, +Inv rPois rF+} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
199876 | Tar:7    | Got an ichor-stained helmet
199880 | Tar:7    | Identified the cursed +2 helmet "Ahielal" {rPois} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
199981 | Tar:7    | Noticed an ancient lich
199983 | Tar:7    | Killed an ancient lich
200041 | Tar:7    | Noticed an ancient lich
200045 | Tar:7    | Killed an ancient lich
200099 | Tar:7    | Got a flickering pewter ring
200102 | Tar:7    | Got a vibrating glass ring
200105 | Tar:7    | Got a jewelled ring mail
200118 | Tar:7    | Identified the +2 ring mail of Grace {Str+1} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
200139 | Tar:7    | Identified the ring of Kliowomaeb {AC-2 Int+3 Dam+4} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
200140 | Tar:7    | Identified the ring "Torezxoh" {rN+ Str+4 Acc+3 Dam-4 SInv} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
200264 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 15 in Invocations
200325 | Tar:7    | Noticed Ereshkigal
200341 | Tar:7    | Killed Ereshkigal
200389 | Tar:7    | Got a bone rune of Zot
200884 | Tar:7    | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [a neqoxec]
201448 | Zot:3    | Gained mutation: Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity. [potion of mutation]
201448 | Zot:3    | Gained mutation: You passively map a small area around you. [potion of mutation]
201596 | Hell     | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation]
201596 | Hell     | Lost mutation: Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity. [potion of cure mutation]
201596 | Hell     | Lost mutation: You passively map a small area around you. [potion of cure mutation]
201596 | Hell     | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2). [potion of cure mutation]
201924 | Zot:4    | Identified the amulet of Teona Skifogh {rMut rC++ rN+} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
202862 | Tar:7    | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [mutagenic glow]
203681 | Coc:3    | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
203758 | Coc:3    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
203759 | Coc:3    | Identified Sif Muna's Guide on Weightlessness (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 3 of Cocytus)
204177 | Coc:7    | Entered Level 7 of Cocytus
204342 | Coc:7    | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy
204597 | Coc:7    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
204598 | Coc:7    | Identified Sif Muna's Grimoire of Aerial Translocation (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 7 of Cocytus)
204673 | Coc:7    | Identified the Collected Works on the Snowflakes
204675 | Coc:7    | Got a slimy flail
204676 | Coc:7    | Identified the cursed +0,-1 flail "Teacen" {speed, Contam Str-2 Dex+2} (You found it on level 7 of Cocytus)
204757 | Coc:7    | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [mutagenic glow]
204939 | Hell     | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of cure mutation]
204939 | Hell     | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [potion of cure mutation]
205821 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You can spit poison. [potion of mutation]
205821 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are covered in fur (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
205821 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. [potion of mutation]
207556 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
207558 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
207558 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
207558 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
208027 | Vaults:2 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 69 gold pieces
208027 | Vaults:2 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 69 gold pieces
208028 | Vaults:2 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 69 gold pieces
208028 | Vaults:2 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 69 gold pieces
208859 | Coc:7    | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [mutagenic glow]
208924 | Coc:7    | Noticed the Serpent of Hell
208927 | Coc:7    | Killed the Serpent of Hell
208927 | Coc:7    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
208927 | Coc:7    | Reached skill level 15 in Necromancy
208928 | Coc:7    | Identified Sif Muna's Volume of Unstable Companions (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 7 of Cocytus)
209556 | Coc:7    | Noticed Antaeus
209573 | Coc:7    | Killed Antaeus
209614 | Coc:7    | Got an icy rune of Zot
209823 | Hell     | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [mutagenic glow]
210737 | Vaults:2 | Bought a potion of curing for 46 gold pieces
210737 | Vaults:2 | Bought a potion of mutation for 57 gold pieces
210737 | Vaults:2 | Bought 2 potions of berserk rage for 138 gold pieces
211015 | Lair:8   | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of mutation]
211015 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2). [potion of mutation]
211015 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of mutation]
211337 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 51 gold pieces
211400 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of mutation for 50 gold pieces
211400 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 60 gold pieces
211401 | Depths:4 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
211411 | Zig:1    | Entered Level 1 of a ziggurat
211430 | Zig:2    | Entered Level 2 of a ziggurat
211431 | Zig:2    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
211458 | Zig:3    | Entered Level 3 of a ziggurat
211502 | Zig:4    | Entered Level 4 of a ziggurat
211573 | Zig:5    | Entered Level 5 of a ziggurat
211639 | Zig:6    | Entered Level 6 of a ziggurat
211703 | Zig:7    | Entered Level 7 of a ziggurat
211708 | Zig:7    | Noticed Feipnep the pandemonium lord
211708 | Zig:7    | Noticed Rapuh the pandemonium lord
211712 | Zig:7    | Noticed Chabotix the pandemonium lord
211715 | Zig:7    | Killed Feipnep the pandemonium lord
211715 | Zig:7    | Killed Chabotix the pandemonium lord
211736 | Zig:7    | Killed Rapuh the pandemonium lord
212070 | Zig:8    | Entered Level 8 of a ziggurat
212118 | Zig:8    | Got a crude bow
212119 | Zig:8    | Identified the +5,-3 bow "Niorhad" {venom, MR++ Str+1} (You found it on level 8 of a ziggurat)
212183 | Zig:9    | Entered Level 9 of a ziggurat
212232 | Zig:9    | Got a heavily runed lapis lazuli ring
212247 | Zig:9    | Got a steaming leather armour
212252 | Zig:9    | Identified the -8 leather armour of Elyvilon's Favour {+Fly} (You found it on level 9 of a ziggurat)
212285 | Zig:10   | Entered Level 10 of a ziggurat
212301 | Zig:10   | Received a gift from Sif Muna
212337 | Zig:10   | Identified the Catalogue of the Five Planets (You found it on level 10 of a ziggurat)
212348 | Zig:10   | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Volume of Unholy Magic (You found it on level 10 of a ziggurat)
212370 | Zig:10   | Identified the ring of Yliastreu {Str+2 Dex+1 Int-3} (You found it on level 9 of a ziggurat)
212384 | Zig:10   | Identified Phibruel's Reference Book on the Shifting Escort (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 10 of a ziggurat)
212400 | Zig:11   | Entered Level 11 of a ziggurat
212637 | Zig:11   | Identified Khecuxo's Papyrus of Cold (You found it on level 11 of a ziggurat)
212648 | Zig:11   | Got a smoking shield
212657 | Zig:11   | Identified the cursed -6 shield of Agnosticism {Dex+2 Int+3} (You found it on level 11 of a ziggurat)
212718 | Zig:12   | Entered Level 12 of a ziggurat
212850 | Zig:12   | Identified Grawk's Incunabulum of Dislocated Creation (You found it on level 12 of a ziggurat)
212878 | Zig:13   | Entered Level 13 of a ziggurat
212978 | Zig:13   | Identified a -1 rod of shadows (9/9) (You found it on level 13 of a ziggurat)
213163 | Zig:14   | Entered Level 14 of a ziggurat
213349 | Zig:14   | Got a scintillating bone ring
213352 | Zig:14   | Identified the ring "Clevun" {EV+1 Str+4} (You found it on level 14 of a ziggurat)
213365 | Zig:14   | Identified Sheapren's Guide on Evil Rituals and Creation (You found it on level 14 of a ziggurat)
213464 | Zig:15   | Entered Level 15 of a ziggurat
213571 | Zig:15   | Got a thick robe
213581 | Zig:15   | Identified the +1 robe "Grezxytruics" {+Blink MR++ Int+4} (You found it on level 15 of a ziggurat)
213598 | Zig:15   | Identified a +5 rod of ignition (11/11) (You found it on level 14 of a ziggurat)
213644 | Zig:15   | Identified a +5 rod of the swarm (14/14) (You found it on level 15 of a ziggurat)
213665 | Zig:16   | Entered Level 16 of a ziggurat
213801 | Zig:16   | HP: 5/182 [alligator (6)]
213803 | Zig:16   | HP: 2/182 [alligator (10)]
214115 | Zig:16   | Got a faintly glowing tin ring
214118 | Zig:16   | Identified the cursed ring of Xom's Righteous Anger {AC-2 Dam+4} (You found it on level 16 of a ziggurat)
214145 | Zig:16   | Got an iridescent hand axe
214146 | Zig:16   | Identified the +3,+8 hand axe of the Tiger {venom, +Rage rElec rC+ MR+} (You found it on level 16 of a ziggurat)
214194 | Zig:17   | Entered Level 17 of a ziggurat
214311 | Zig:17   | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
214391 | Zig:17   | Got a pitted golden ring
214394 | Zig:17   | Identified the ring "Thiarhik" {rF++ MR+} (You found it on level 17 of a ziggurat)
214406 | Zig:17   | Got a scintillating lead ring
214408 | Zig:17   | Identified the ring of Heguekke {Fire Dam+4} (You found it on level 17 of a ziggurat)
214432 | Zig:17   | Got a glittering amber ring
214434 | Zig:17   | Identified the ring "Smoj" {Ice Dex+3} (You found it on level 17 of a ziggurat)
214448 | Zig:17   | Identified a +4 rod of destruction (11/11) (You found it on level 17 of a ziggurat)
214466 | Zig:18   | Entered Level 18 of a ziggurat
214772 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 51 gold pieces
214772 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of invisibility for 93 gold pieces
214773 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 34 gold pieces
214774 | Depths:4 | Lost mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of cure mutation]
214774 | Depths:4 | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation]
214774 | Depths:4 | Lost mutation: You can spit poison. [potion of cure mutation]
214774 | Depths:4 | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
214774 | Depths:4 | Lost mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. [potion of cure mutation]
214774 | Depths:4 | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2). [potion of cure mutation]
214887 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 60 gold pieces
214887 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 40 gold pieces
214887 | Depths:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 40 gold pieces
215081 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold
216206 | Geh:1    | Entered Level 1 of Gehenna


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    19 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    19
       Hand axe          |     3 |     9 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    12
       Quarterstaff      |       |    17 |    71 |    58 |    25 |       |       |       |       ||   171
       Short sword       |       |       |       |    27 |       |       |       |       |       ||    27
       Mace              |       |       |       |       |   165 |   122 |   113 |    65 |    80 ||   545
       Dagger            |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   881 ||   881
 Fire: Crossbow          |       |       |       |   200 |   300 |       |       |       |       ||   500
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    59 |    56 |   101 |   225 |   328 |   115 |    26 |    39 |    33 ||   982
       Searing Ray       |     3 |    10 |     9 |     4 |     6 |     6 |       |       |       ||    38
       Dazzling Spray    |       |     5 |     2 |     6 |    37 |    15 |     1 |       |       ||    66
       Iskenderun's Myst |       |     6 |    41 |    99 |    96 |   109 |   104 |    55 |    39 ||   549
       Fulminant Prism   |       |     6 |    17 |    47 |    51 |    38 |    20 |       |       ||   179
       Sting             |       |       |    59 |    97 |    19 |     9 |       |       |       ||   184
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |     8 |    14 |    16 |     1 |     4 |     3 |     3 ||    49
       Iskenderun's Batt |       |       |       |    20 |     2 |     9 |       |       |       ||    31
       Venom Bolt        |       |       |       |     9 |   200 |   130 |   163 |    40 |       ||   542
       Orb of Destructio |       |       |       |       |   179 |   367 |   320 |   339 |   905 ||  2110
       Deflect Missiles  |       |       |       |       |     1 |     6 |     3 |     6 |    28 ||    44
       Haste             |       |       |       |       |       |     9 |     8 |    11 |    28 ||    56
       Bolt of Cold      |       |       |       |       |       |   127 |   135 |    21 |    26 ||   309
       Cure Poison       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |    11 |     6 |    97 ||   116
       Swiftness         |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     8 |     5 ||    17
       Poisonous Cloud   |       |       |       |       |       |       |    78 |    40 |       ||   118
       Ignite Poison     |       |       |       |       |       |       |    53 |    33 |     1 ||    87
       Blink             |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     8 |     9 ||    18
       Fireball          |       |       |       |       |       |       |    14 |    88 |   290 ||   392
       Delayed Fireball  |       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |    10 |    29 ||    45
       Bolt of Fire      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   156 |   405 ||   561
       Apportation       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    11 |    15 ||    26
       Fire Storm        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     7 |   144 ||   151
       Lehudib's Crystal |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |  1107 ||  1110
       Dispel Undead     |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   999 ||   999
       Spellforged Servi |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   235 ||   235
       Glaciate          |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    46 ||    46
       Controlled Blink  |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    32 ||    32
Invok: Channel Energy    |       |       |       |     6 |    35 |   303 |   311 |   297 |  1168 ||  2120
       Forget Spell      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |     2 |     9 ||    17
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |     8 |    18 |     1 |     4 |    42 ||    73
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |     3 |    13 ||    18
       Release Delayed F |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 |    10 |    27 ||    42
       Evoke Invisibilit |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
       Evoke Teleportati |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
       Turn Visible      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     3 |     9 |     2 |     2 |     1 |     1 |    10 ||    28
       Crystal ball of e |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1025 ||  1025
       Disc of storms    |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
  Use: Scroll            |       |     3 |    19 |    12 |     7 |     9 |     9 |     6 |    77 ||   142
       Potion            |       |       |       |     5 |     7 |     1 |     3 |     5 |    80 ||   101
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     3 |       |       |     2 |     2 |       |       |    37 ||    44
       Confused          |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     3
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     7 ||     7
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1

So I conquered tomb, abyss, and 3 of the hells since the last time I posted. I gotta say, the hells weren't as scary as I thought they would be. For a high level caster with good gear, I was rarely ever afraid of dying. Hell effects weren't as bad as I thought they would be. Most of it was just small chip damage although sometimes I would get something nasty like yellow magic contamination or a swarm of demons. Torment wasn't that bad either. Usually I would be able to kill a torment capable monster within two turns and my rN+++ mitigated the damage enough in the few situations that it actually did go off. I was expecting hellfire to be scarier but it did even less damage than torment (obviously). It was also easier to kill hellfire capable monsters because they usually only appeared due to hell effects (putting them right next to me and in range of my crystal spear). The only close encounters were when I was fighting Dispater and when I decided to fully explore Erishkigal's maze (fun fact, there is no loot inside it and having monsters spawn in corridors is quite dangerous).

Now although there isn't too big of a risk of getting outright killed in hell, the attrition is brutal. Stat drain can cripple you with burden and level 9 spell hunger costs if you don't want to waste a restore abilities (you poor guys don't even have those in the later versions) and rotting will quickly empty your stock of curing. I don't even want to get started when you gain yellow glow and subsequently bad mutations. I tried to push through as hard as I could but when I got both a -2 strength and Int mutation, I just had to quaff a curing pot which forced me to give up my low metabolism and carnivorous mutations. When I first started the hells, I tried to fully explore each floor, but at around dis 4 I realized that there wasn't really any point to it. There was no food or loot, and I was eventually going to run out of supplies at this rate. I then started rushing and things got a bit better. After clearing Cocytus I took a look at my stock and but I was still running low. I only had around 6-8 curing pots, 4 restore abilities, 2 heal wounds, 1 meat ration, 4 scrolls of identify (remove curse was in good supply), and 1 cure mutation potion. I had a lot of bread and a ton of small fruit but I ignored those. That's when I decided to tackle a Zig...

*beat*

And wow was that long and pointless... I wrote two paragraphs about my experience there before I lost my sanity describing the bloody place. That place made me stay away from crawl for two days after practically being traumatized by that last room. I went to bed at 7 PM that night! Anyway, I lost a lot of curing potions, a few artifacts, my crystal ball of energy, my disc of storms (for silent spectres), and all my heal wounds. Thankfully I was able to replace most of those by buying stuff in shops or picking up duplicates somewhere else. What I gained was a manual of invocations, enough potions of xp to level invocations to its current level and use up the manual, a +2 helmet of intelligence (sort of makes up for accidentally dropping my crown of Dyrovepreva), 5 potions of cure mutation, and a few pointless souvenirs like the staff of torment.

Problem is, the shops are beginning to run out of stock and this will probably be one of my last batches of curing potions. I can probably win a 15 rune game at this point, but I'll be cutting it close. Anyway, Gehenna is reportedly the hardest hell so in preparation for it I decided to replace bolt of fire with bolt of cold for those fire enemies. Any other spells you'd recommend me to learn for this specific branch, anything about it that's different from the other hells?

Also note that I haven't done pan yet because I don't like the whole idea of not being able to leave when I want.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13772 on: July 15, 2016, 11:27:10 pm »

I have a couple questions about amplifying magic effects. So if a fire spell has #####... (5/8) spellpower and you equip a ring of fire, but the spell remains 5/8, it's not actually doing more damage right? You'd have to train the schools involved to get anything out of the ring by bumping it to 6/8?

Do rings of fire, staves of fire or conjuration, and Vehumet's amplifying effect stack with each other?

I'm fairly certain that the little hash marks are merely indicators for increments of spellpower[I THINK its about 20 points per hash mark?] and you'll still get results even if it doesn't move the meter up a tick.

Spellpower enhancers do indeed stack with each other, although in practice you'll rarely want more then one or two at a time. In theory though, if you were an octopode, you could have ELEVEN fire/ice spellpower enhancers all active at once and they'd all stack. You'd also have r--------- to the opposite element, but still. Also note that Vehumet does not actually increase your spellpower at all, just makes it easier to cast destructive spells. This is similar to wizardry effects[Which don't stack], but does stack with other wizardry effects.
Not quite on a few points.
Enhancers are limited to a maximum of 3, and negative resistance is similarly capped at r---. Some enhancement effects (like the wild magic mutation) don't count against the limit of 3 enhancers.
The bars represent: 0, 10, 15, 25, 35, 50, 75, 100, 150, 200.
Each enhancer does indeed increases power, even if the bars don't change. There is a stepdown past 50, where every point costs more to get. So although each enhancer multiplies your raw power by 1.5 pre-stepdown, it (above 50) ends up increasing your effective power by 15-25 points.
Also note that enhancers do nothing if a spell is already at max power.

Negative resistances are actually capped at a single pip unless they changed it in trunk. rF- is the same if you have it once or 5 times.
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« Reply #13773 on: July 15, 2016, 11:40:44 pm »

Pan isn't particularly dangerous if you have already done the hells (and don't feel the need to kill the unique pan lords). I typically do leave it for last though, so I am tough enough to take on any ziggs I find in it.

The only notable thing about Gehenna (that I can recall) are A) that there are a pretty large amount of hellions and brimestone fiends (hello hellfire). Try to avoid fighting too many at once, because hellfire is a huge pain, and B) Asmodeus, who is a pain in the ass that uses hellfire, is surrounded by a constant ring of fire, and can summon hellions and fiends. You should be able to deal with him using glaciate spam though.

Death's door and borgnjor's revivification are pretty good general emergency survival spells, but finding slots for both/either of them isn't particularly easy (you can free up 5 with dispel undead since you beat tomb, but finding the rest of the slots is much tougher).

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Negative resistances are actually capped at a single pip unless they changed it in trunk. rF- is the same if you have it once or 5 times.
Derp. Yeah, you're right. It is still capped at a single negative.
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« Reply #13774 on: July 15, 2016, 11:47:35 pm »

The Hells are way worse then Pan. Gehenna shouldn't be too bad as long as you have a way to deal with fire-resistant enemies. Tornado + LCS/OOD or Glaciate both work well there. Note that Asmodeus is quite vulnerable to throwing nets, so go grab some of those if you can. Pan is easier then the Hells, since it has similar caliber enemies without the constant attrition of the hell effects. You CAN effectively leave whenever you want, since portals out through the Abyss are relatively common and the abyssal rune means that you won't spend that long in there. Even though you're absurdly powerful, remember that you still die VERY quickly. Avoid the hellion island[You'll know it when you see it] and you'll be fine.
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« Reply #13775 on: July 15, 2016, 11:52:42 pm »

Pan isn't particularly dangerous if you have already done the hells (and don't feel the need to kill the unique pan lords). I typically do leave it for last though, so I am tough enough to take on any ziggs I find in it.

IIRC zigs no longer spawn in Pan in 0.18. At least, I didn't see any across almost 50 pan levels the last time I was there.
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« Reply #13776 on: July 16, 2016, 12:20:41 am »

Pan isn't particularly dangerous if you have already done the hells (and don't feel the need to kill the unique pan lords). I typically do leave it for last though, so I am tough enough to take on any ziggs I find in it.

IIRC zigs no longer spawn in Pan in 0.18. At least, I didn't see any across almost 50 pan levels the last time I was there.
Huh. Yeah, apparently Zig spawning was changed in .18 to get triggered by a zig figurine (an item) which is guaranteed to spawn in tomb 3 and in Zig 27's.
E: I'm not sure if the figurines are in addition to the regular spawning, or replace it instead.
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« Reply #13777 on: July 16, 2016, 01:55:13 am »

I'd rather disagree with Hell being worser than Pan. Pan can surprise you with Glaciating Pan Lord, surrounded by horde of smiters in a single small room upon entering new floor. Hell never gives you something as unexpected as this and is quite predictable. I've only died in Hell while attempting it on an Orb Run. To a party of angels, for additional insult.

Zigs do NOT spawn in Pan from 0.18 onwards, this was mentioned in changelog.
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« Reply #13778 on: July 16, 2016, 10:38:15 am »

With Pan, there are some circumstances where you have to read a scroll of fog/create a cloud and then teleport yourself away. However, by the time you get there, basically everything else in Pan is easy.
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« Reply #13779 on: July 17, 2016, 08:48:04 am »

Pan isn't particularly dangerous if you have already done the hells (and don't feel the need to kill the unique pan lords). I typically do leave it for last though, so I am tough enough to take on any ziggs I find in it.

IIRC zigs no longer spawn in Pan in 0.18. At least, I didn't see any across almost 50 pan levels the last time I was there.
Huh. Yeah, apparently Zig spawning was changed in .18 to get triggered by a zig figurine (an item) which is guaranteed to spawn in tomb 3 and in Zig 27's.
E: I'm not sure if the figurines are in addition to the regular spawning, or replace it instead.

wait really? is there no longer a guaranteed zig in the depths?
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« Reply #13780 on: July 17, 2016, 10:37:26 am »

Pan isn't particularly dangerous if you have already done the hells (and don't feel the need to kill the unique pan lords). I typically do leave it for last though, so I am tough enough to take on any ziggs I find in it.

IIRC zigs no longer spawn in Pan in 0.18. At least, I didn't see any across almost 50 pan levels the last time I was there.
Huh. Yeah, apparently Zig spawning was changed in .18 to get triggered by a zig figurine (an item) which is guaranteed to spawn in tomb 3 and in Zig 27's.
E: I'm not sure if the figurines are in addition to the regular spawning, or replace it instead.

wait really? is there no longer a guaranteed zig in the depths?

There's still a zig in the depths, but no more zigs in Pan.
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« Reply #13781 on: July 17, 2016, 11:49:09 pm »

I beat The Pits (a sprint map). When I first looked at it, I kept dying over and over - the first section isn't too bad, but I would always get overwhelmed in the second (to the right of the start) or third (I always chose to go upwards). However, I discovered a few things that made it significantly easier:

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« Reply #13782 on: July 18, 2016, 12:20:37 am »

Qaz also works quite well for Sprint blasting. DsFi or HOFi with him or Chei both wreck.
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« Reply #13783 on: July 18, 2016, 12:07:00 pm »

Qaz also works quite well for Sprint blasting. DsFi or HOFi with him or Chei both wreck.

I just tried Qaz with a MiFi. I beat Ziggurat Sprint on the second try and The Pits on the third. I hadn't really messed with Qaz before this, but Disaster Zone is excellent for clearing large areas. The two main downsides are that it's extremely loud and sometimes destroys doors and walls, bringing more enemies into the fight, and that it temporarily turns floors to lava. On the other hand, if more enemies show up together, you have to use Disaster Zone fewer times to clear them all. Also, lava floors are nice to keep some dangerous enemies out of melee range.
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« Reply #13784 on: July 19, 2016, 10:23:51 pm »

The Hells are way worse then Pan.

If you're talking difficulty, yes, I agree. But at least the Hells 'only' have seven levels each. Going through level after level of Pan waiting for one of the ones with a rune on it to spawn can be maddening. That's one change I do appreciate in the latest version, actually, the whole 'Kill enough shit in the Abyss and stairs/an exit will spawn' thing.

I seem to recall something like that being added in the trunk changelog, actually. Some sort of cumulative percentage that you'll get a rune level after every Pan level.



Hell effects are utterly terrible. They're an exercise in "How long can you keep giving a shit before you get fed up and make a dumb button press and die". I disagree about rMut though. Before, it was "Glue an rMut amulet to your neck so the absurd amounts of neqoxecs around every corner don't make you utterly useless". Now there are WAY less neqoxecs around and you can actually use amulet slots for other things[Like harm, for example].
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