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[frostshotgg]

I don't think there's any meaningful way to know that there's any sort of distinction between hellfire and any other damage, which was the point of the change. As far as an unspoiled player is concerned, it's just another spell name. "It's 'fireball' as opposed to 'fire' so what's different about it?"

[Sarrak]

After many tries, I finally accomplished my old dream - cleared a whole Zig as a pure fighter (the aforementioned MuFi). It went quite easier than in previous versions, without teleport restrictions. Also, I got very lucky with the last two floors, easy slime horde on 26 lvl and - hilariously easy - poison-themed 27 lvl.

Hardest floors were: early Holy Zig, eight berserking juggernauts and three iron giants with a horde of reapers.

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Sarrak the Invulnerable (Mummy Fighter)           Turns: 117418, Time: 07:45:43

HP:   244/244 (249) AC: 47    Str: 36    XL:     27
MP:   37/50         EV: 22    Int: 17    God:    Gozag
Gold: 6932          SH: 35    Dex: 19    Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + +      SeeInvis +    z - +9 eveningstar (freeze)
rCold  + + +      Gourm    .    b - +9 armour of the Dragon King {rPois rF+ rC+ MR+}
rNeg   + + +      Faith    .    m - +8 large shield of Contentment {+Fly MR- rCorr MP+9}
rPois  ?          Spirit   +    e - +3 crown of Dyrovepreva {rElec Int+2 SInv}
rElec  +          Dismiss  .    n - +0 cloak of a labyrinth {+Blink rPois rF+}
rCorr  +          Reflect  .    Q - +2 pair of gloves of Zuwanama {rN+ Regen+ Str+4}
SustAt .          Harm     .    l - +0 pair of boots of Umatatz {MR+ Int+4}
MR     ++++.                    M - amulet of Baucoffileb {Spirit rC+ rN++}
Stlth  ..........               u - ring of Secrets {rPois rF+++ rC+ MP+9 Stlth-}
                                o - ring "Ichen" {MP+9 Str+4 Dex+7}

@: studying 4 skills, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: no food or potions, fire vulnerability, cold resistance 1, negative energy
resistance 3, torment resistance, unbreathing, in touch with death 2, restore
body
a: Self-Restoration, Potion Petition, Call Merchant, Bribe Branch, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Flight
}: 6/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, golden, abyssal


You are on level 2 of the Depths.
You worship Gozag.
Gozag is noncommittal.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 14 branches of the dungeon, and seen 64 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 23 times.
You have completed 1 ziggurat, and seen 27 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

You have collected 62902 gold pieces.
You have spent 16544 gold pieces at shops.
You have paid 39426 gold pieces to Gozag.

   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 O Level 27 Maces & Flails
 O Level 27 Armour
 + Level 20,0 Dodging
 - Level 22,3 Shields


EDIT: Pan was way too easy. I should have taken Orb before doing it 

[Antioch]

ugh, I don't disagree with a name change in principle, but damnation just sounds lame.

[flame99]

Yeah...I don't hate the name Damnation but it doesn't sound as strong as Hellfire. Maybe something regarding brimstone (Brimstone bolt/beam or the like, maybe)? In any case, yeah, Hellfire is rather confusing to new players

[Ozarck]

Nice run Sarrak. I could be so lucky skilled. I have never managed to string together that many resistances. That's a pretty nice get-up you have!

[Sarrak]

Nice run Sarrak. I could be so lucky skilled. I have never managed to string together that many resistances. That's a pretty nice get-up you have!

I don't think I'm a skilled player. I have yet to get a mage to 20th level, for example. Also, I tried and died as MuFi two hundred times before finally getting hang on it (I hope). Early game is suffering time for mummies, yet the moment I got a good plate armor on, no one could touch me anymore.

About luck: after clearing all branches beside Zot and Hells, I found only TWO BAD items with rF, which is absolutely vital for the end game. Thankfully, by this time I amassed ~34k gold and created a whole market with this fortune. Gold Dragon armor and cloak saved the day, and then I got a ring from Zig that solved all my problems.

[Ozarck]

I'm closing in on two hundred runs as a hill orc fighter, I think. I get bored occasionally and need a break, so I wander off and play something I am even more bad at for a while. my latest set has been demonspawn wizards - they suck to start with. Necromancer and gladiator demonspawns I have had better luck with, but they are just distractions while I recharge my HOFi interest levels.

[LordPorkins]

There should be a mod that adds a Sigmund class. That would be fun.

Speaking of sigmund, i recently managed to beat him to a pulp with the bare hands of my human wizard. Praise RNGesus!

[EnigmaticHat]

I think it would be cool if there were a mod that let you control a unique if you entered their name as your character's name.

Obviously something real dramatic would have to happen to the game's difficulty for that to be fair, but.  It would be a fun little distraction.

[frostshotgg]

If player Centaur winrates are anything to go off, plus the fact that he fucking cheats, Nessos could probably comfortably do 27 floor ziggs.

[frostshotgg]

Pretty sure the answer there is Gozag. Juggs are a lot less scary when they don't care about you.

[Ozarck]

I've only ever faced one Juggernaut at a time and two total. Both times were as a hOFi of Oka. FInesse and Heroism go a long way to fighting one, but softening it up before it hits you is good too. wands, if you have high evocations seem to help.

[Tiruin]

How the hell did you survive eight berserking juggernauts with a melee character? Hell, with any character? Those things are probably my most-feared monster.

I was seriously asking about this, in case you missed it. Any and all tips on juggernauts would be greatly appreciated. I can't even fathom how someone could survive a Zig floor with eight of the bastards.

Betting high AC here

* Tiruin has no idea how these things work and usually wins anyway?

Working from memory from my first 0.18 win in the tourney as a FoFi, those things did...not hurt me much at all?

[Sarrak]

How the hell did you survive eight berserking juggernauts with a melee character? Hell, with any character? Those things are probably my most-feared monster.

I was seriously asking about this, in case you missed it. Any and all tips on juggernauts would be greatly appreciated. I can't even fathom how someone could survive a Zig floor with eight of the bastards.

Sorry, missed your question.

I looked at the log afterwards - it was ten berserking jugs. Firstly, I did not care much about them, as I was swimming in orc summons and jugs can't do much by themselves (~50 AC, Gozag, Spirit shield, Haste). Then, moths of wraith appeared. I quickly found out that two berserking jugs pounding at me hurt. Teleported, found more jugs with more moths, teleported again... I needed five teleports to clear out all remaining orcs and moths before taking on last five monstrosities at my leisure.

Just to compare, three jugs without berserking did nearly not as much damage to me as a single iron giant with his throwing session. Iron giants are much more dangerous.

[Leafsnail]

I think it would be cool if there were a mod that let you control a unique if you entered their name as your character's name.

Obviously something real dramatic would have to happen to the game's difficulty for that to be fair, but.  It would be a fun little distraction.

The ##crawl channel has a "footv" feature where you can stage pitched battles between NPCs on one of their SSH things.