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[Arcvasti]

Right about that cure mut. I can't even remember how I got the first frail and no heal, but I accidentally drank a second mut potion thinking it was a cure mut. The second mutation potion made me twice as frail, but the third cured one of them. I felt about as stupid as can be. I haven't even found a cure mutation potion this run.

Heh, oops. Confused your chardump with Aoi's.

I'm thinking mostly about that initial first step into Snake:4 where you basically are guaranteed to be instantly surrounded on 8 sides by nagas and serpents. Butterflies can't push things away and there's no room to retreat when you're already dying very fast.

Stairdancing works, if you can take the extra couple turns of bopping that constriction entails[heh]. Formicids get hella SH, so that'd definitely help. Defensive god abilities like Recite or Aura of Power both work wonders on closely packed naga groups, if you went Zin or Ru.

[Aoi]

Right about that cure mut. I can't even remember how I got the first frail and no heal, but I accidentally drank a second mut potion thinking it was a cure mut. The second mutation potion made me twice as frail, but the third cured one of them. I felt about as stupid as can be. I haven't even found a cure mutation potion this run.

Heh, oops. Confused your chardump with Aoi's.

Oh, my mutations are a mess because I ran into a few orbs of fire on the way up. Outside of blurry vision (and to a lesser extend, twisted body), none of them seemed like a big enough deal to care about on the orb run though.

I'm somewhat regretting not switching to Kiku before picking up the orb, then getting Nature's Ally III. I feel like I could've, easily.

[Ozarck]

Character dump time!

So far, this has been by far the most successful of my crawls: level 26, 2 runes, and cleared the depths. Time to decide on the next rune, to decide whether trying a few levels of the ziggeraut is worth it, or if I should minimize risk to attempt my first win, and to consider item load-out for the rest of the game. I have about the best of the items i have found in the game, though there was one amulet with decent intrinsics that I saw. I have a couple of the more normal amulets for specific resistances too, in my stash.

I'm pretty happy with this so far, and will try not to be furious if I die after this, but will do my darnedest not to die.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.0 (tiles) character file.

104 the Executioner (Hill Orc Fighter)             Turns: 92260, Time: 12:41:27

Health: 254/254    AC: 53    Str: 24    XL:     26   Next: 46%
Magic:  32/32      EV:  7    Int: 13    God:    Okawaru [******]
Gold:   4597       SH:  0    Dex: 22    Spells: 0 memorised, 25 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     X - +4 executioner's axe (chop)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  +     N - +8 crystal plate armour of Lies {Stlth+}
rNeg   + + +     SustAt   .     (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +         Gourm    .     K - +2 hat {MR+}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     Z - +2 cloak {rPois}
rCorr  .         Warding  .     i - +2 pair of gloves {archery}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     l - +2 pair of boots {Stlth+}
MR     +++++                    n - amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR+++}
Stlth  ..........               B - ring of the Jester {rElec rN+++ AC+3 Str-2 Dex+3}
                                J - ring "Jebbuoda" {*Drain rF++ Int+5 Dex+4 Slay+3}

@: almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: no striking features
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 5 of the Depths.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 51 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary, Bailey, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

You have collected 7296 gold pieces.
You have spent 2324 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 f - the +9 arbalest "Hellblazer" {venom, Str+4 SInv}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   It poisons the ammo it fires.
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It lets you see invisible.
 u - a +1 antimagic battleaxe
 X - a +4 executioner's axe of chopping (weapon)
Missiles
 F - 13 poisoned bolts
 V - 615 bolts
Armour
 i - a +2 pair of gloves of archery (worn)
 l - a +2 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 s - the +2 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth--}
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 H - the +5 plate armour of Anaber {Int+3}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 5 of the Depths)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
 K - a +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
 N - the +8 crystal plate armour of Lies (worn) {Stlth+}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you in an ice cave)   
   
   It makes you more stealthy.
 Z - a +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn)
Jewellery
 n - the amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {Clar rN+ MR+++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [amulet of clarity]
   
   It provides mental clarity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 v - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
 B - the ring of the Jester (right hand) {rElec rN+++ AC+3 Str-2 Dex+3}
   (You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+3).
   It affects your strength (-2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It renders you almost immune to negative energy.
 J - the ring "Jebbuoda" (left hand) {*Drain rF++ Int+5 Dex+4 Slay+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of intelligence]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It causes draining when unequipped.
Wands
 b - a wand of fireball (11)
 h - a wand of confusion
 m - a wand of teleportation (1)
 t - a wand of digging (3)
 w - a wand of confusion
 D - a wand of cold {zapped: 3}
 U - a wand of slowing (34)
Scrolls
 x - a scroll of enchant weapon
 y - a scroll of recharging
 E - 24 scrolls of remove curse
 L - 12 scrolls of fear
 S - 3 scrolls of holy word
Potions
 d - 6 potions of might
 j - 2 potions of cancellation
 k - a potion of flight
 p - 8 potions of agility
 C - 4 potions of haste
 G - a potion of resistance
 R - 4 potions of curing
Miscellaneous
 c - a fan of gales
 g - an ornate deck of summoning {drawn: 2}
 o - a phial of floods
 q - a legendary deck of defence {Fortitude, drawn: 4}
 z - a legendary deck of defence {Fortitude}
 A - a plain deck of changes {the Shadow, drawn: 2}
 O - a stone of tremors
Comestibles
 a - a slice of pizza
 e - 19 bread rations
 I - a chunk of flesh


   Skills:
 + Level 24.0 Fighting
 + Level 25.8 Axes
   Level 1.0 Bows
 + Level 19.1 Crossbows
 + Level 23.1 Armour
 - Level 0.1 Dodging
   Level 3.4 Shields
 - Level 11.4 Invocations
 - Level 12.9 Evocations


You have 25 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (8/8) D:9
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:6
    Orc (4/4) D:11            Elf (3/3) Orc:3        Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
    Zot (0/5) Depths:5   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:8 =   D:9 (   D:14 !   Orc:1 !   Orc:4 :(*[[   Elf:3 =   Shoals:2 *   Vaults:1 :   Depths:2 ?=(   Depths:3 *   Depths:5 :?[

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:5
Ziggurat: Depths:5
Trove: Elf:2 (give wand of heal wounds (9))

Annotations:
D:5 exclusion: oklob plant
D:9 1 runed door
Shoals:1 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne

Message History

I - a chunk of flesh
Things that are here:
a broad axe; a cloak
You start resting.
HP restored.
There is an open door, spattered with blood here.
There is a large open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is a large open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is a huge open gate here.
Drop what? 46/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop a book of Flames.
Unknown command.
Char dumped to 'morgue/104.txt'.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Mennas (Depths:3)
  A juggernaut (Depths:5)
  Boris (Crypt:2)
  Margery (Crypt:2)
  Norris (Elf:2)
  Nikola (Depths:1)
  A bone dragon (Crypt:3)
  2 golden dragons (Depths:5)
  Jory (Crypt:3)
  A profane servitor (Crypt:3)
  Arachne (Spider:3)
  Jorgrun (Vaults:4)
  A titan (Depths:2)
  2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  3 deep elf blademasters
  4 liches
  An eldritch tentacle (WizLab)
 ( ...)
Grand Total: 5189 creatures vanquished



[flame99]

No win, but damn if I wasn't happy with it! Good artifacts but not so much that I felt like I did well by the grace of RNJesus. The death was totally my fault, taking on Vault:5 when I did wasn't too bright and pretty blatant hubris. Even then, I was doing well before a convoker called in some nastier monsters. I got the Shoals instead of the Swamp, which sucked, but I only had a few close calls (Which is better than usual, the Shoals tend to slaughter me). Snake was...Actually pretty easy since I was being smarter about charging ahead.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18.1-8-gdd0e5ea (webtiles) character file.

360195 flameboy99 the Warrior (level 21, 0/203 HPs)
             Began as a Minotaur Fighter on May 23, 2016.
             Was the Champion of Qazlal.
             Slain by an ettin
             ... wielding a +0 dire flail
              (47 damage)
             ... on level 5 of the Vaults.
             The game lasted 02:53:06 (48229 turns).

flameboy99 the Warrior (Minotaur Fighter)          Turns: 48229, Time: 02:53:06

Health: 0/203      AC: 38    Str: 32    XL:     21   Next: 47%
Magic:  17/28      EV:  8    Int:  5    God:    Qazlal [******]
Gold:   987        SH:  8    Dex: 11    Spells: 0 memorised, 20 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +    u - +8 lajatang (slice)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    e - +6 chain mail "Seiblo" {rPois Regen+}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    +    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    E - +2 hat {MR+}
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    b - +2 cloak
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    W - +2 pair of gloves of True Grit {Regen+}
SustAt .          Harm     .    L - +2 pair of boots {run}
MR     ++...                    H - amulet of faith
Stlth  ..........               R - ring of see invisible
                                q - ring "Uvalepaetiy" {+Fly rC+ rN+ Str+5 Dex-3}

@: protected from physical damage, repel missiles, quick, very resistant to
hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, low mp 1
a: Upheaval, Elemental Force, Disaster Area, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight
}: 2/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled


You were on level 5 of the Vaults.
You worshipped Qazlal.
Qazlal was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and saw 41 of its levels.
You also visited: Labyrinth.

You collected 3974 gold pieces.
You spent 2987 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 u - a +8 lajatang of slicing (weapon)
 x - a +0 morningstar of venom
Missiles
 v - 8 throwing nets
 y - 47 javelins (quivered)
Armour
 b - a +2 cloak (worn)
 e - the +6 chain mail "Seiblo" (worn) {rPois Regen+}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 E - a +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
 L - a +2 pair of boots of running (worn)
 W - the +2 pair of gloves of True Grit (worn) {Regen+}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 X - a +3 plate armour of poison resistance
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 q - the ring "Uvalepaetiy" (left hand) {+Fly rC+ rN+ Str+5 Dex-3}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Shoals)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It affects your dexterity (-3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you fly.
 H - an amulet of faith (around neck)
 R - a ring of see invisible (right hand)
 Z - the ring "Kifecurph" {rF+ Int+4 Stlth+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of stealth]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you more stealthy.
Wands
 a - a wand of confusion (26/48)
 n - a wand of disintegration (24/24)
 o - a wand of disintegration (20/24)
 A - a wand of teleportation (1/9)
 B - a wand of acid (9/15)
 C - a wand of digging (7/24)
 D - a wand of flame (28/48)
 G - a wand of iceblast (8/15)
 I - a wand of iceblast (3/15)
 K - a wand of lightning (6/15)
 P - a wand of iceblast (11/15)
 V - a wand of lightning (5/15)
Scrolls
 i - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 k - 5 scrolls of fog
 p - 18 scrolls of remove curse
 w - a scroll of holy word
 N - 3 scrolls of summoning
 O - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 Y - 13 scrolls of identify
Potions
 c - a potion of cure mutation
 h - 6 potions of flight
 m - 9 potions of curing
 r - a potion of berserk rage
 s - 6 potions of agility
 z - 4 potions of lignification
 M - a potion of haste
 Q - a potion of might
 S - 2 potions of resistance
 U - 2 potions of ambrosia
Miscellaneous
 T - a plain deck of summoning {the Rangers}
Comestibles
 f - 13 bread rations
 g - 10 slices of pizza
 j - 8 beef jerkies
 l - 20 meat rations
 t - 15 royal jellies
 J - 39 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 20.9 Fighting
 - Level 8.5(15.2) Maces & Flails
 + Level 19.5(20.0) Staves
 - Level 10.9 Throwing
 - Level 20.2 Armour
 - Level 8.0 Dodging
   Level 8.0 Shields
 + Level 16.4 Invocations
 - Level 10.3 Evocations


You had 20 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (7/8) D:8
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3        Snake (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (1/6) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (2/3) Orc:2        Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Crypt (1/3) Vaults:3   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 [   D:6 !   D:7 (}(:*   D:10 }:([   Orc:2 *[(=   Elf:2 }   Snake:3 (
Snake:4 *   Vaults:4 *

Annotations:
Lair:2 exclusion: ice statue
Lair:7 Meowch's ghost, journeyman MiBe
Crypt:1 Mara


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).


Message History

The vault warden hits you with a long sword!
A deep elf death mage comes into view. It is wielding a dagger.
You slash the vault warden!
You kill the vault warden!
Qazlal accepts your kill.
The runic seals fade away. The ettin hits you with a dire flail!!!
You feel more protected from physical attacks.
The ettin hits you with a dire flail!!!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel more protected from physical attacks.
The ironbrand convoker hits you with a flail!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
A yaktaur and a phantasmal warrior come into view.
Unknown command.
You hear a shout!
The vault guard is engulfed in freezing vapours.
You block the vault guard's attack.
The vault guard hits you but does no damage.
The ettin hits you with a dire flail!!!
You die...

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You could see a shadow dragon, 2 tentacled monstrosities, a golden dragon, a
fire giant, a stone giant, a yaktaur captain, 2 vault guards, 2 deep elf death
magi, 2 ettins, a deep elf demonologist, a phantasmal warrior, an ironbrand
convoker, 3 yaktaurs and a freezing wraith.

Vanquished Creatures
  Sojobo (Vaults:3)
  The ghost of Bamforgor the Shatterer, a veteran GrFi of Okawaru (Vaults:3)
  2 tentacled monstrosities (Vaults:4)
  2 krakens (Shoals:2)
  Frances (Shoals:1)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:4)
  13 greater nagas
  2 fire giants
  A frost giant (Vaults:4)
  A deep elf sorcerer (Vaults:4)
  Maud (D:11)
  10 vault wardens
  A ghoul (Vaults:4)
  2 orc warlords
  6 stone giants
  7 ironheart preservers
  2 deep elf demonologists
  3 salamander stormcallers
  A vampire knight (Crypt:1)
  A deep elf annihilator (Elf:2)
  Azrael (D:12)
  3 ettins
  2 eidola (Crypt:1)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  10 yaktaur captains
  8 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:4)
  24 vault guards
  8 merfolk impalers
  3 deep elf death magi
  2 fire dragons
  2 great orbs of eyes
  Josephine (Orc:1)
  5 hydras
  A rakshasa (Vaults:1)
  24 naga warriors
  4 ice dragons
  6 anacondas
  4 centaur warriors
  7 merfolk avatars
  3 merfolk aquamancers (Shoals:4)
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:3)
  6 ogre magi
  26 dancing weapons
  2 death knights (Vaults:4)
  2 satyrs
  A deep troll shaman (Vaults:2)
  2 deep troll earth magi (Vaults:2)
  22 naga sharpshooters
  A vampire mage (Vaults:3)
  Sonja (D:10)
  4 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  13 deep elf knights
  2 hell knights (Vaults:3)
  A hellephant skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A fire crab (Vaults:4)
  An iron troll (D:14)
  3 salamander mystics
  11 sea snakes
  A storm dragon skeleton (Vaults:2)
  12 naga ritualists
  11 skeletal warriors
  An unseen horror (D:13)
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:4)
  3 giant orange brains
  4 hill giants
  An anubis guard (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  8 deep trolls
  A wizard (Vaults:1)
  3 necromancers
  6 ironbrand convokers
  12 deep elf archers
  54 deep elf magi
  2 wolf spiders (Vaults:4)
  A hornet (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  27 harpies
  13 orc knights
  15 mana vipers
  5 orc sorcerers
  2 oklob plants (Lair:3)
  9 cyclopes
  21 griffons
  16 ugly things
  11 salamanders
  12 fauns
  A hornet (Vaults:4)
  13 manticores
  A stone giant zombie (Vaults:1)
  Maurice (D:10)
  Joseph (D:9)
  30 black mambas
  A torpor snail (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  9 water nymphs
  2 gargoyles
  5 vault sentinels
  17 naga magi
  13 sirens
  7 guardian serpents
  A storm dragon simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  9 spiny frogs
  A molten gargoyle (Lair:1)
  A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:2)
  Psyche (D:9)
  4 kobold demonologists
  5 komodo dragons
  31 yaktaurs
  2 rime drakes
  An efreet (D:14)
  2 human zombies
  The ghost of Frenoss the Cleaver, a novice GrBe of Trog (D:5)
  8 freezing wraiths
  28 merfolk
  9 trolls
  A human skeleton (Vaults:2)
  2 polar bears (Lair:2)
  A queen bee (Lair:3)
  A queen ant zombie (Crypt:1)
  3 wind drakes
  14 two-headed ogres
  A polar bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  14 slime creatures
  15 snapping turtles
  26 blink frogs
  8 boulder beetles
  An air elemental (Elf:2)
  32 yaks
  A vampire (D:13)
  9 wraiths
  2 wyverns
  3 water elementals
  Sigmund (D:4)
  2 basilisks
  8 redbacks
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  4 fire elementals
  Grum (D:10)
  11 hippogriffs
  6 hogs
  2 hungry ghosts (Lab)
  3 mottled dragons (Vaults:1)
  8 vampire mosquitoes
  A redback simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  Edmund (D:6)
  71 nagas
  A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  12 wargs
  4 swamp worms (Lair:3)
  3 hell hounds (D:12)
  21 water moccasins
  Duvessa (D:6)
  56 orc warriors
  A deep troll skeleton (Vaults:1)
  10 ice beasts
  12 porcupines
  3 sky beasts
  34 ogres
  3 phantoms
  16 wolves
  9 centaurs
  2 tengu (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  12 crocodiles
  6 big kobolds
  A gnoll sergeant (D:6)
  22 giant frogs
  A glowing shapeshifter simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  3 earth elementals (Elf:2)
  6 scorpions
  Dowan (D:6)
  27 killer bees
  6 wights
  2 electric eels (Lair:4)
  4 howler monkeys
  2 crimson imps
  6 hounds
  A wyvern simulacrum (D:14)
  6 jellies
  4 centaur skeletons
  2 giant frog skeletons
  12 iguanas
  23 orc priests
  2 gnoll shamans (D:6)
  23 orc wizards
  Ijyb (D:2)
  9 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:9)
  16 sheep
  A felid zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 hound skeletons
  2 hound zombies
  A howler monkey zombie (D:6)
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  Robin (D:3)
  24 gnolls
  15 adders
  43 river rats
  3 shadow imps
  5 white imps
  An ooze (D:5)
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  19 worms
  A dart slug (D:2)
  6 giant geckos
  103 orcs
  8 bats
  2 giant cockroaches
  15 goblins
  13 hobgoblins
  10 jackals
  8 kobolds
  4 quokkas
  6 ball pythons
  2 giant newts
  A quokka zombie (D:5)
  9 rats
  A bush (Lair:5)
  A fire vortex (Vaults:3)
  71 fungi
  48 plants
  6 tentacles (Shoals:2)
  A tentacle segment (Shoals:2)
1812 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  Margery (Crypt:1)
  Kirke (Lair:5)
  A deep elf mage (Elf:2)
  An ugly thing (Vaults:2)
  2 nagas
  A crocodile (Lair:5)
  A hound (D:4)
  An orc wizard (Orc:1)
  5 orcs
  2 fire vortices (Vaults:3)
  17 fungi
  12 plants
  23 tentacles (Shoals:2)
  1599 tentacle segments (Shoals:2)
1667 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 3479 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | flameboy99 the Minotaur Fighter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   276 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 27/27 MP: 1/1
   840 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/33 MP: 2/2
   967 | D:2      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
   968 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
   969 | D:2      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
   969 | D:2      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
   970 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
   976 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
   987 | D:2      | Killed Ijyb
  1230 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/40 MP: 3/3
  1651 | D:3      | Noticed Robin
  1663 | D:3      | Killed Robin
  1957 | D:3      | Noticed an orc warrior
  2251 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 43/46 MP: 4/4
  2631 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3012 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  3029 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/53 MP: 3/5
  3051 | D:4      | Noticed Sigmund
  3059 | D:4      | Killed Sigmund
  3059 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3355 | D:4      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  3363 | D:4      | Became a worshipper of Qazlal Stormbringer
  3534 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3534 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 41/61 MP: 6/6
  3907 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4079 | D:5      | Noticed Frenoss's ghost (novice GrBe)
  4096 | D:5      | Killed Frenoss's ghost
  4096 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  4096 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 70/70 MP: 8/8
  4417 | D:5      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4907 | D:5      | Found Qeotanol's Armour Emporium.
  4954 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4963 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5244 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  5350 | D:6      | Reached * piety under Qazlal
  5380 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  5393 | D:6      | Killed Edmund
  5470 | D:6      | Found Pehom's Distillery.
  5727 | D:7      | Found Fymaud's Book Shop.
  6137 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 61/78 MP: 10/10
  6600 | D:6      | Reached ** piety under Qazlal
  6611 | D:6      | Noticed Dowan
  6612 | D:6      | Noticed Duvessa
  6623 | D:6      | Killed Dowan
  6798 | D:6      | Killed Duvessa
  7157 | D:7      | Found Isoyrush's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  7164 | D:7      | Found Erehekh's Gadget Shop.
  7185 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
  7193 | D:7      | Found Bofod's Antique Weapon Shop.
  7606 | D:7      | Found Sucw's Assorted Antiques.
  8738 | D:8      | Reached *** piety under Qazlal
  8836 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9044 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  9064 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/88 MP: 12/12
  9246 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Staves
  9347 | D:5      | Bought a +1 pair of boots of running for 474 gold pieces
  9513 | D:8      | Noticed a three-headed hydra
  9535 | D:8      | Killed a three-headed hydra
  9889 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9892 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  9907 | Lair:1   | Reached **** piety under Qazlal
 10286 | Lair:1   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 10656 | Lair:1   | Noticed a molten gargoyle
 10668 | Lair:1   | Killed a molten gargoyle
 10672 | Lair:1   | Noticed a fire dragon
 10685 | Lair:1   | Killed a fire dragon
 10834 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 97/97 MP: 14/14
 10879 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 10948 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10983 | Lair:1   | Reached ***** piety under Qazlal
 11294 | Lair:2   | HP: 5/101 [yak (8)]
 11688 | Lair:2   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 11702 | Lair:2   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 13185 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 105/110 MP: 16/16
 13261 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 13285 | Lair:3   | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 13586 | Lair:3   | Reached ****** piety under Qazlal
 14111 | Lair:3   | Identified Hatsuupp's Second Course in Secret Knowledge
 14124 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Staves
 14303 | Lair:4   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 14311 | Lair:4   | Got a crude chain mail
 14316 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 14327 | Lab      | Identified the +6 chain mail "Seiblo" {rPois Regen+} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 14680 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 14685 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 15566 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 15574 | Lair:5   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 15673 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 16390 | Lair:6   | Noticed Kirke
 16469 | Lair:5   | Killed Kirke
 16469 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 70/119 MP: 19/19
 16841 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 17105 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 17106 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 17598 | Lair:7   | Noticed Meowch's ghost (journeyman MiBe)
 18315 | D:9      | Noticed Joseph
 18342 | D:9      | Killed Joseph
 18415 | D:9      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
 18931 | D:9      | Noticed Psyche
 18934 | D:9      | Killed Psyche
 19103 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 19107 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja
 19116 | D:10     | Killed Sonja
 19209 | D:10     | Found Monuiwn's Book Emporium.
 19213 | D:10     | Found Conkig's Armour Shoppe.
 19217 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 19217 | D:10     | Found Houd's Weapon Shoppe.
 19243 | D:10     | Noticed Grum
 19251 | D:10     | Killed Grum
 19273 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19284 | Orc:1    | Noticed Maurice
 19286 | Orc:1    | Noticed a stone giant
 19398 | D:10     | Killed Maurice
 19473 | D:10     | Killed a stone giant
 19588 | Orc:1    | Noticed a stone giant
 19643 | Orc:1    | Killed a stone giant
 19643 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 106/130 MP: 22/22
 19879 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 20004 | Orc:1    | Noticed Josephine
 20017 | Orc:1    | Killed Josephine
 20129 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 20129 | Orc:2    | Found Maasoyx's Jewellery Shoppe.
 20520 | Orc:2    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 3 turns
 20725 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 20739 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc warlord
 21104 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 21181 | Orc:2    | Bought the ring "Kifecurph" {rF+ Int+4 Stlth+} for 558 gold pieces
 21323 | Orc:2    | Found Aloyzi's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 21330 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21435 | Orc:2    | Found Domagiy's General Store.
 21449 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 21511 | Orc:2    | Found Gexisih's Antique Armour Emporium.
 21726 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 21808 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 22384 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 22536 | Snake:1  | Reached XP level 15. HP: 114/139 MP: 23/23
 22971 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
 24806 | Snake:3  | Noticed a greater naga
 24812 | Snake:3  | Killed a greater naga
 24817 | Snake:3  | Found Uxyxief's Weapon Emporium.
 25595 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 25700 | Snake:4  | Found Fiack's General Store.
 25758 | Snake:4  | Noticed a greater naga
 25762 | Snake:4  | Killed a greater naga
 26040 | Snake:4  | Bought a wand of teleportation (1/9) for 255 gold pieces
 26115 | Snake:4  | Noticed a greater naga
 26121 | Snake:4  | Noticed a greater naga
 26219 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 142/147 MP: 24/24
 26528 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 27825 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 15 in Staves
 27832 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing
 27886 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 28182 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 28301 | Shoals:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 146/157 MP: 13/25
 28494 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Frances
 28506 | Shoals:1 | Killed Frances
 29651 | Shoals:2 | Noticed a kraken
 29653 | Shoals:2 | Noticed a kraken
 29729 | Shoals:2 | Killed a kraken
 29729 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 29734 | Shoals:2 | Killed a kraken
 31328 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 31340 | Shoals:4 | HP: 6/159 [water nymph/the raging water (30)]
 31675 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
 32318 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 33124 | Shoals:4 | Killed Ilsuiw
 33124 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 49/168 MP: 10/26
 33747 | Shoals:4 | Got a scorched bone ring
 34201 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 34437 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 34949 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 35180 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 36102 | Elf:1    | Identified the ring "Uvalepaetiy" {+Fly rC+ rN+ Str+5 Dex-3} (You found it on level 4 of the Shoals)
 36264 | Elf:1    | Identified Eselots's Handbook of the Entourage
 36771 | Elf:2    | Found Dicaukaz's Gadget Shoppe.
 36847 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 36849 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 37253 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 37914 | Elf:2    | Reached XP level 19. HP: 178/178 MP: 28/28
 38414 | D:10     | Found Dach's Gadget Emporium.
 38473 | D:10     | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 38884 | D:11     | Noticed Maud
 38901 | D:11     | Killed Maud
 39574 | D:12     | Noticed Azrael
 39576 | D:12     | Killed Azrael
 39629 | D:12     | You fall through a shaft!
 40716 | D:14     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 40767 | D:14     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 40890 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 40943 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 42397 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: You are occasionally teleported next to monsters. [potion of mutation]
 42397 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of mutation]
 42397 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
 42398 | Vaults:2 | Lost mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of cure mutation]
 42398 | Vaults:2 | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of cure mutation]
 42398 | Vaults:2 | Lost mutation: You are occasionally teleported next to monsters. [potion of cure mutation]
 42819 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 182/191 MP: 30/30
 43646 | Vaults:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 43818 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Invocations
 44417 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Bamforgor's ghost (veteran GrFi)
 44451 | Vaults:3 | Killed Bamforgor's ghost
 44454 | Vaults:3 | HP: 8/192 [fire vortex[a salamander stormcaller] (4)]
 44830 | Vaults:3 | Got a pair of scorched gloves
 44841 | Vaults:3 | Identified the +2 pair of gloves of True Grit {Regen+} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 45558 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 46025 | Vaults:4 | Found Sikh's Assorted Antiques.
 46033 | Vaults:4 | Bought 2 potions of cure mutation for 1700 gold pieces
 46033 | Vaults:4 | Gained mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [potion of mutation]
 46033 | Vaults:4 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
 46033 | Vaults:4 | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of mutation]
 46035 | Vaults:4 | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of mutation]
 46037 | Vaults:4 | Lost mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [potion of cure mutation]
 46037 | Vaults:4 | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of cure mutation]
 46037 | Vaults:4 | Lost mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of cure mutation]
 46037 | Vaults:4 | Lost mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of cure mutation]
 46338 | Vaults:4 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [a shining eye]
 47358 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 201/201 MP: 28/28
 47424 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 47572 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Margery
 47578 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Sojobo
 47584 | Crypt:1  | Killed Margery
 47775 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Mara
 47789 | Vaults:3 | Killed Sojobo
 47947 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 48227 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a golden dragon
 48229 | Vaults:5 | Slain by an ettin

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 |
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Maces & Flails |  3     4     5  6  7  8                                        |  8.5
Shields        |     4        5     6  7  8                                     |  8.0
Armour         |        4        5  6  7  8  9 11 12 14 15    16 17 18 19 20    | 20.2
Fighting       |           4     5     6  8  9 11 12 13 14    15 16 17 19 20    | 20.9
Invocations    |                    1  3  5     7  9 12             13 14 15 16 | 16.4
Staves         |                          4  7  9 11    12 14 15 16 17 18    19 | 19.5
Evocations     |                             3           6  8  9 10             | 10.3
Throwing       |                                         4  8 10                | 10.9
Dodging        |                                                  3  6     8    |  8.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail             |    74 |   163 |    17 |    13 |       |       |       ||   267
       Headbutt          |     9 |    25 |    59 |   123 |   234 |   331 |   384 ||  1165
       Lajatang          |       |       |   308 |   550 |  1062 |  1330 |  1340 ||  4590
       Morningstar       |       |       |       |     9 |    10 |       |       ||    19
Throw: Throwing net      |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Javelin           |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Invok: Upheaval          |       |       |       |     2 |     7 |    28 |     4 ||    41
       Disaster Area     |       |       |       |       |     2 |     6 |     5 ||    13
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |       |    14 |       ||    14
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |    17 |     1 |       |     1 ||    19
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     8 |     9 |    17 |    13 |    18 |    11 ||    81
       Potion            |     2 |     1 |     2 |     4 |     4 |     3 |    11 ||    27
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     7 |    18 |    17 |    18 |    30 |    31 ||   122
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     3 |     2 |     2 |       ||     7
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       ||     3
Armor: Scale mail        |    33 |    69 |   143 |    47 |       |       |       ||   292
       Skin              |       |       |     6 |       |       |       |       ||     6
       Plate armour      |       |       |       |   215 |       |       |       ||   215
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |    80 |   572 |  1025 |   654 ||  2331
Dodge: Dodged            |    30 |    35 |   176 |   195 |   357 |   494 |   544 ||  1831
       Deflected         |       |       |       |     5 |    55 |   131 |    42 ||   233
Block: Shield            |    41 |    87 |    10 |       |       |       |       ||   138
       Other             |       |       |    29 |   172 |   419 |   380 |   414 ||  1414



[Ozarck]

Well done! looks like you might have gone to vault:5 a tad early there though :/ I can't say anything though - I haven't yet been to that level.

[Sarrak]

Character dump time!

So far, this has been by far the most successful of my crawls: level 26, 2 runes, and cleared the depths. Time to decide on the next rune, to decide whether trying a few levels of the ziggeraut is worth it, or if I should minimize risk to attempt my first win, and to consider item load-out for the rest of the game. I have about the best of the items i have found in the game, though there was one amulet with decent intrinsics that I saw. I have a couple of the more normal amulets for specific resistances too, in my stash.

I'm pretty happy with this so far, and will try not to be furious if I die after this, but will do my darnedest not to die.

First levels of Ziggurats are quite safe to explore and could yield some interesting findings. If you're not bent on taking out as much as you can - go no farther than 9 or 10th level. Non-magical fighters could generally go up to 15~17 with some problems, yet the risks grow very fast indeed (most my melee Zig runs end here, to titan airstrikes). From 19th its RNG-based deathtrap. You get a floor with animals and nagas or orcs - you run, smiling, carving a bloody path with your axe or engage in similar activities. You get demons/mummies - you're 90% dead.

[flame99]

Well done! looks like you might have gone to vault:5 a tad early there though :/ I can't say anything though - I haven't yet been to that level.

Yeah, pretty early. If I had been smarter about stairdancing and spammed Disaster Area more than Upheaval, I probably could've cut my way through the welcoming party without dying, but I played more conservatively and payed for it. I was kind of riding high, since I had pretty recently thoroughly kicked Snake's ass and triumphed over my nemesis Shoals, and got too confident.

[Ozarck]

dead. level 9 of the ziggaraut to a tormentor's symbol of torment and getting blasted by a hellion. that symbol of torment is super strong. I couldn't get to the tormentor at all or I would have probably outlasted the other monsters on the level.

Level 27.

I shoulda avoided hte ziggaraut. Shoulda gone for the win. Ah well. back to the boring stupid levels with the bats and shit

[Aoi]

Well, I recreated (as best I could) my tournament file with an offline wizmode... good thing I didn't go for a 15-win. Cleared Tomb/Pandemonium with no problems, but Hell ripped my head right off with Hellions. Still, 11-win would've been nice...

[TheDarkStar]

I've been spending a while trying to beat meatsprint. On my best attempt, I was two steps from winning. After killing the meatlord, I though the orb dropped from him, so I walked over to where he died. As it turns out, it drops wherever your character is, so I had to walk back and pick it up. The last thing I had to do was walk two steps to the exit, but I didn't make it.

[Arcvasti]

Meatsprint is a very strange game mode. I've won with centaurs[High HP + SWIFT] and ghouls[High HP + TORMENT IMMUNE]

dead. level 9 of the ziggaraut to a tormentor's symbol of torment and getting blasted by a hellion. that symbol of torment is super strong. I couldn't get to the tormentor at all or I would have probably outlasted the other monsters on the level.

Level 27.

I shoulda avoided hte ziggaraut. Shoulda gone for the win. Ah well. back to the boring stupid levels with the bats and shit

Yeah, you really don't wanna go past the first ~seven levels of a zig with a normal melee character. With enough resists, the right god and spells and absurd regen, you CAN clear zigs with melee. Its just hard. Very probably the hardest thing in the game. Even level 9 spells like Fire Storm or Tornado wielded by properly robust casters can struggle in zigs and Apocalypse and Disaster Area flounder with repeated usage. In summary, Ziggurats are hella robust, tackle with precision and overwhelming force.

[Tiruin]

PTW!
Also anyone know if the Tournament(?) banners can be earned during these times? I'm silly with colorful banners and just want more. \o/

dead. level 9 of the ziggaraut to a tormentor's symbol of torment and getting blasted by a hellion. that symbol of torment is super strong. I couldn't get to the tormentor at all or I would have probably outlasted the other monsters on the level.

Level 27.

I shoulda avoided hte ziggaraut. Shoulda gone for the win. Ah well. back to the boring stupid levels with the bats and shit

Torment = 1/2 hp hit ._. I wish I realized this whenever I kept facing anything that could cast the symbol of torment--I kept running away from Greater mummies because I thought that spell was a killer! D:
_{And apologies if I sound like interjecting, but this reminds me of a Zig run I did...I quit at Level 9, not knowing there was a banner for reaching level 10!}

[Sarrak]

dead. level 9 of the ziggaraut to a tormentor's symbol of torment and getting blasted by a hellion. that symbol of torment is super strong. I couldn't get to the tormentor at all or I would have probably outlasted the other monsters on the level.

Level 27.

I shoulda avoided hte ziggaraut. Shoulda gone for the win. Ah well. back to the boring stupid levels with the bats and shit

Darn, sorry for my advice, then. I forgot that its quite different to go Zig on semi-regular basis and one time in ages.
For single tormentors (and torment is the top danger for melee) I usually take wands, DoS or javelins of penetration.

Yeah, you really don't wanna go past the first ~seven levels of a zig with a normal melee character. With enough resists, the right god and spells and absurd regen, you CAN clear zigs with melee. Its just hard. Very probably the hardest thing in the game.

Agreed. I scum-cleared one to the end, it was nightmare. High mummy or demonic levels can kill melee in five rounds.

[Ozarck]

I learned something from it, and don't feel nearly as bad as I did last night about it I was jsut kicking myself, and asking myself what I cold have done. The most unfortunate part though, is that I didn't get a chance to get a feel for Vault: 5 or maybe slime pits. I am still unsure where the best place to find rune: 3 for a first time win would be. I hear decent things about Abyss.

I could have probably gotten the one in the Tombs - I cleared Crypt without significant trouble, and the wizard lab too - Golubria's Gauntlet, or something like that.

Whoever said that Vaults 1-4, crypt, and depths would be less challenging than Elf:3 was right. I walked through most of that. With caution, of course.

[Sarrak]

Crypt is nothing compared to the Tomb. Tomb is a slaughterfest of curses, torment, more curses and rays of undead extermination if you play as one. Tomb is manageable, sure, but really tedious. If you go there like most of the game, you'll get trampled.

Vaults:5 are pretty easy, once you get how they work and clear yourself a small area to rest in. I mostly stairdance at the start and teleport if stairs get blocked. Note, though, that teleporting there is extremely dangerous thing to do!

Slime Pits and Abyss are easy if you know what you're doing, prepare (rCorr/tele) and know when to retreat. Killing TRJ is an interesting task of its own and searching for rune in Abyss is better done on the third 'floor'. Even there, you risk some nasty surprises.