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[Darkening Kaos]

Definitely worth using the Storm Dragon Hide; it's got a fairly high encumbrance rating though, so you'll want to train up your armour skill. Luckily, HO's have a good aptitude for it. And IIRC, doesn't Beogh add further benefits on top of that? He may be worth worshipping instead of Pakellas. Or Dith, if you stick with crossbows.

    Thanx, Covenant.  I enchanted the hide and am now wearing Storm Dragon Armour.  Took the nearest stairs down to D:3 and ran into a small group of Orcs.  Stair-danced the Orc mage up to D:2 and shot a lot of holes in him, then tackled two other melee orcs.  Not noteworthy you might say.....but one had a +2 War Axe of Freezing.
     So.  The question now is, do I train up Axes?  Or are axes still busted?  Or were they?

     I worry about the largess from DCSS at the moment, I have rarely had this good a start. 

[vogonpoet]

Axes are not really shitty, I mean, they might require a lot more skill for a bit less damage, but they are ok, its not like you won't be able to kill all the stuff with a battleaxe of freezing taken from the first cold giant you find. Their main problem compared to polearms is availability - outside Okie and Trog you are more likely to find super polearms than super axes, but seriously, axes will be found eventually.

I mean sure, if you want a shield, then yeah, finding a broad axe is like impossible, but who goes 1-handed for axes?


Anyway, in this case, no skill war axing of freezing will be pretty effective popcorn slayer, so you could even not bother with 4 levels of axe right now, and focus instead on crossbows, fighting and armour... that would give you more time to bump into Pikel or whatever...

[Darkening Kaos]

     Thanx for the advice guys, I haven't really played since .10 or .11, so all of the changes are a bit beyond my ken atm.
     One thing I had done at the start was to set my skills to Fighting, (3.8 now and 9%), Armour, (2.1 and 27% with focus), and Crossbows, (5.1 and 70%).
     I have not seen any shields yet, though I have 2.1 skill, so it might be an option.

     I've picked up 50-odd arrows so far, and over 30 poison needles, just in case I need back-up ranged, just need to find a bow.  I used to throw needles way back when, I might try again, though my throwing skill is 0.0, so will be a desperate gamble if I need to.

     Anyway, time to finish D:3 and see what happens, thanx again for the advice.

     Edit:  only walked about a hundred steps and got waylaid by more Orcs, one of whom exhorted me to become a disciple of Beogh, so, "Meh, okay", and now it's on.

[Adragis]

Don't axes attack everyone in your front arc?

[Ozarck]

Don't axes attack everyone in your front arc?

they attack everyone adjacent to you who isn't an ally

ediut:  Ithink. I don't know. it's too early.

[IcyTea31]

they attack everyone adjacent to you who isn't an ally

...Except the tile opposite to your main target and tiles 'blocked' by walls between them and it.

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Attacking the orc hits all of the enemies.
Attacking the kobold also hits the orc, but not the goblin or the rat.
Attacking the rat also hits the goblin and the orc, but not the kobold.
Attacking the goblin also hits the orc and the rat, but not the kobold.

E: I tried playing with an axe and this is completely wrong. Ozarck is right.

[Adragis]

Yeah, I've always had good results with axes. First completion was with a demonspawn gladiator, went most of the game with a hand axe of electrocution.

[TheDarkStar]

I opened a door to a small room, expecting some kind of altar. As soon as I opened the door, the walls disappears and five confused internal flame'd sheep appeared. I backed away and then they exploded, flinging flesh chunks everywhere.

Yep, another Xom altar.

[Darkening Kaos]

    For a change of pace, I started up a centaur wanderer, everything was going fine until the third level where I chanced upon a set of Centaur Barding.  First time I have ever gotten barding from the dungeon ... ... while playing a centaur.
   Now, RNGesus will do one of two things - kill the centaur on the next level, or, gift him with a set of barding every level for the rest of the game, none of which will be better than what he already has.

[Ozarck]

I was getting a lot of arbelasts last dungeon - i had decided to train up throwing and bows, because of a +10 sling and a +3 bow. I feel your pain.

Also, I gotta stop taking chances. Winning means running more often than I enjoy.

[Vactor]

    For a change of pace, I started up a centaur wanderer, everything was going fine until the third level where I chanced upon a set of Centaur Barding.  First time I have ever gotten barding from the dungeon ... ... while playing a centaur.
   Now, RNGesus will do one of two things - kill the centaur on the next level, or, gift him with a set of barding every level for the rest of the game, none of which will be better than what he already has.

prepare for an early trip to the abyss off some random kobold

[Darkening Kaos]

     I know self quoting is a bit of a narcissistic sin, but I got this memorable event way back in 0,12, before I gave up on crawl for a few versions, (actually I think XCOM happened).

Well, that sucked......

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-804-gfbe0e60 (tiles) character file.

58 Boris the Chopper (level 1, 6/12 HPs)
             Began as an Octopode Wanderer on Sept 29, 2013.
             Was drained of all life
             ... on Level 1 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 00:01:03 (35 turns).

Boris the Chopper (Octopode Wanderer)                 Turns: 35, Time: 00:01:03

HP   6/12        AC  1     Str 10      XL: 1   Next:  0%
MP   1/1         EV 11     Int 15      God:
Gold 58          SH  0     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised,  0 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   a - +2,+1 hand axe {=f}
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   (no shield)
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   (no amulet)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   (no ring)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   (no ring)
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (no ring)
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   (no ring)
Saprovore : . . .   Levitation : .   (no ring)
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   (no ring)
                                     (no ring)
                                     (no ring)

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, 8 rings, constrict 8, camouflage 1, AC +1
a: no special abilities


You were on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 1 of its levels.

You collected 8 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +2,+1 hand axe (weapon) {=f}
Comestibles
 b - a meat ration
 c - a bread ration


   Skills:
 + Level 1.0 Fighting
 + Level 4.0 Axes
   Level 3.0 Crossbows
 + Level 1.0 Throwing
 + Level 1.1 Traps


You couldn't memorise any spells.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (1/27)           

Altars:


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You are amphibious.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stlth).
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).


Message History

Found 8 gold pieces.
Found a meat ration.
There is an open door here.
You now have 58 gold pieces (gained 8).
Found a staircase leading out of the dungeon.
b - a meat ration
Found 32 stones.
Found a staircase leading out of the dungeon.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You see here 32 stones.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
As you open the door, it creaks loudly!
There is an open door here.
You swing at nothing.
A kobold comes into view. It is wielding a runed short sword.
The kobold shouts!
The kobold throws a dart. The dart hits you!
You hit the kobold but do no damage. Your grab misses the kobold.
The kobold hits you with a runed short sword.
You die...

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You could see a kobold.


Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Boris, the Octopode Wanderer, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
    35 | D:1      | Was drained of all life

A kobold with a shortsword of Draining?  On DL 1?  Come on, Crawl, stop punishing me for using Octopodes..

[Arcvasti]

my worst d:1 death ever was from a freaking centaur

before that, i thought d:1 was a respite from absurd OOD monsters for the first 2-3 xp levels


hah

[frostshotgg]

I still regularly die to D:1 gnolls with branded polearms. Usually you're not going to have a ton of great options to fight them and you can't exactly stair dance to fight them safely.

[ATHATH]

How good are Hill Orcish Necromncers of Beogh, by the way? Will Animate Dead attempt to desecrate Orcish corpses that are in view as well as normal ones?