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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13050 on: January 24, 2016, 03:16:27 pm »

I heard the blink spell is good for escaping, then I found out it likes to repeatedly blink you into either dead ends or next to enemies.

Its one of those things that only really seems good once you've played a long game without having it. Scrolls of blinking help, but you're at the mercy of the RNG for getting enough of those. I've also NEVER gotten Controlled Blink online, either because I couldn't find an Akashic Record or because I couldn't be bothered to invest enough xp to use it. Maybe I did a zig or maybe two, it'd become a valid escape option, but by that point I might not NEED it. Blink, most of the time, only needs to get you one or two squares away from the enemy right next to you. Once it does that, you can safely abscond. Mostly only relevant whenever I try to play a Deep Elf Wizard for some dumb reason, but still useful.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13051 on: January 25, 2016, 11:41:25 am »

This may be a noob question, but how do you quickly swap weapons? I thought there was a way to assign a secondary weapon with + or =, and then press another button to swap them, but I cannot even figure out how to set them.
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« Reply #13052 on: January 25, 2016, 11:50:21 am »

This may be a noob question, but how do you quickly swap weapons? I thought there was a way to assign a secondary weapon with + or =, and then press another button to swap them, but I cannot even figure out how to set them.

You need to set your primary weapon as "a" and your secondary weapon as "b" through the "=" menu. Then press "[The button just to the left of enter, if the symbol is unclear]. It should swap between the weapon assigned as "a" and the weapon assigned as "b" each time you press it. Having only "a" assigned to a weapon will switch you to unarmed combat instead of the "b" weapon. I've been using this a fair bit to swap out enhancer staves for actual weapons lately, but its something I only ever found out by accident.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13053 on: January 25, 2016, 12:47:30 pm »

I got to one rune on a pacifist run. I am hap.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13054 on: January 25, 2016, 01:35:35 pm »

Which rune? Barnacled, decaying, gossamer?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13055 on: January 25, 2016, 05:37:04 pm »

Abyssal, Golden, Demonic?

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« Reply #13056 on: January 25, 2016, 05:50:51 pm »

The one rune to rule them all?
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« Reply #13057 on: January 26, 2016, 01:23:56 am »

Serpentine.
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« Reply #13058 on: January 29, 2016, 07:57:06 pm »

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1 (tiles) character file.

Faust the Basher (Demonspawn Abyssal Knight)       Turns: 21043, Time: 01:14:29

HP  74/81        AC 27     Str 16      XL: 13   Next: 10%
MP  28/28        EV  7     Int 15      God: Lugonu [******]
Gold 1200        SH 13     Dex 18      Spells:  0 memorised, 12 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     d - +5,+3 demon whip (venom)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     y - +8 chain mail of Schax {rElec Dam+4 Stlth--}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     R - +0 buckler
rPois  .         rCorr    +     I - +1 helmet
rElec  +         rRot     .     (no cloak)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     m - +2 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     (boots unavailable)
Saprov . . .     Rnd*Tele +     K - amulet of resist corrosion
MR     .....                    q - ring of protection from fire
                                h - +3 ring of dexterity

@: studying Evocations, not resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: hooves 3, rugged brown scales 2, clever 1, cold resistance 1, frail 1,
powered by pain 1, teleportitis 1, augmentation 1
a: Depart the Abyss, Bend Space, Banish, Corrupt, Enter the Abyss, Renounce
Religion


You are on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Lugonu.
Lugonu is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 19 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Volcano.

You have collected 1543 gold pieces.
You have spent 343 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 d - a +5,+3 demon whip of venom (weapon)
 e - a +2,+1 scythe of dragon slaying
 o - a +1,+2 spear of flaming
Missiles
 P - 7 javelins (quivered)
 V - 5 needles of slowing
 Z - 3 steel tomahawks
Armour
 m - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 
 y - the +8 chain mail of Schax (worn) {rElec Dam+4 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+4).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 I - a +1 helmet (worn)
 R - a +0 buckler (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of confusion {zapped: 1}
 g - a wand of polymorph
 j - a wand of draining {zapped: 3}
 k - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
 v - a wand of enslavement {recharged}
 A - a wand of digging
 M - a wand of polymorph
Comestibles
 b - a choko
 c - 5 bread rations
 p - 2 beef jerkies
 t - an apple
 w - a chunk of yak flesh
 B - 7 cheeses
 C - 2 meat rations
 S - 2 lemons
 T - 3 pears
Scrolls
 l - a scroll of summoning
 r - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 x - 3 scrolls of blinking
 z - 3 scrolls of recharging
 E - a scroll of enchant armour
 J - a scroll of amnesia
 U - a scroll of teleportation
 W - a scroll of acquirement
Jewellery
 f - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 h - a +3 ring of dexterity (left hand)
 q - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
 D - a +1 ring of dexterity
 K - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck)
 L - a +1 ring of dexterity
 O - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 Y - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
Potions
 i - a potion of berserk rage
 n - 4 potions of heal wounds
 s - a potion of might
 G - 2 potions of brilliance
 H - 4 potions of magic
 Q - 5 potions of curing
Books
 X - a manual of Evocations


   Skills:
 - Level 3.0 Fighting
 - Level 13.2 Maces & Flails
 - Level 10.0 Armour
 - Level 1.1 Dodging
 - Level 8.0 Shields
 - Level 12.0 Invocations
 + Level 6.0 Evocations


You have 12 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (1/4) D:11
   Lair (6/8) D:11          Snake (0/5) Lair:5     
 Swamp: Lair:3-6    Shoals: Lair:3-6    Spider: Lair:3-6     Slime: Lair:6-8

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Jiyva

Shops:
D:6 ?   D:7 *   D:10 %

Annotations:
D:3 Purgy
D:4 Faust's ghost, average TeCj
D:9 exclusion: ice statue
Abyss:1 Erica; Grinder


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hooves in place of feet.
You are mostly covered in rugged brown scales (AC +2, +5% HP).
Your flesh is cold resistant.
You sometimes gain a little power by taking damage.
Your magical and physical power is slightly enhanced at high health.
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
You are frail (-10% HP).
Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity.


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Well hello guys, want to hear my first world problems? Ok, so let me tell you what happened. I decided to play a demonspawn abyssal knight who would train in maces and flails in preparation for the coveted demon whip and guess what happened. By the time I reached lair, I found two scrolls of acquirement and I got a demon whip of venom. Problem is, I have no idea what to use my second acquirement on. I've already seen all 3 shields and I have a badass piece of armour (it's better than plate).

Now I'm afraid because I already lost an enchant armour scroll to fire drakes and I have this pervasive feeling of use it or lose it (I know you can just stash it, but I'm sure you guys can point out plenty of things that I'm missing that I can ask for).

Edit: Do you think my guy can take on a lone ice statue yet?

Edit2: Just found another scroll in a shop, and I can afford it too. Darn
« Last Edit: January 29, 2016, 08:28:46 pm by heydude6 »
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13059 on: January 29, 2016, 08:50:40 pm »

I'd definitely ask for armor, your body armor is amazing but all your other slots are unimpressive.
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« Reply #13060 on: January 29, 2016, 09:22:14 pm »

Just found a +1 dagger of protection on a low level Octopode assassin.  I know protection isn't usually considered a valuable brand but in this case I think I might keep it through the midgame and use any enchant weapon scrolls I find on it.  Not sure how else I'm going to get any AC... what do you guys think?  Bear in mind I never play Octopodes.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #13061 on: January 29, 2016, 09:28:08 pm »

My Octopodes love the Protection brand, but then again my Octopodes are casters and don't have much need for damage brands.

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« Reply #13062 on: January 29, 2016, 09:29:38 pm »

As an avid studier of Octopode theory[Read: I suck at Octopodes too, but I'm snootier about it], having good Stealth, SH and EV is probably going to be the best defense. An early protection weapon is probably still pretty good, mind you. Especially if stabbing can compensate for the lack of a damaging brand. I just wouldn't use enchant scrolls on it[But I'm really stingy with those anyways]. From what I remember from checking out the winning Octopodes in the tournament, Statue Form is the go-to lategame way of obtaining robustness for Octopodes[And Felids, for that matter]. It works even better on them since they can still go in deep water with it active without drowning. IIRC, there's also an unrandart ring that gives +8 AC, but that's not something to rely on.
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« Reply #13063 on: January 29, 2016, 10:18:08 pm »

My philosophy for this character is that Octopodes have all 0s in casting aptitudes, so I'm free to wait and see what the game gives me before committing to learning spellcasting schools.  Stabbing is cool (and I think that with +4 stealth aptitude it would be a sin not to use a dagger) but the main point is that constriction procs whenever you attack so with daggers I get to constrict ~twice as often as I would with a heavier weapon.  I'm going through the early game by noping out or using needles on anything that could kill me and meleeing everything else.  Its seen me through to around where lair should appear.

So far I've a dagger of protection and a mundane buckler, and 5 scrolls of blink.  That's for all practical purposes the sum of my gear; I have not seen a single spellbook and all I've found is 2 rings of flight and one ring of noise.  I'm... pretty nervous about lair.  At least I've gotten my stealth and short blades skills pretty high.
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« Reply #13064 on: January 29, 2016, 11:58:05 pm »

I'd definitely ask for armor, your body armor is amazing but all your other slots are unimpressive.

Ehh, about that... Who wants an update!  :D

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1 (tiles) character file.

Faust the Peltast (Demonspawn Abyssal Knight)      Turns: 64862, Time: 04:47:15

HP 168/182       AC 50     Str 23      XL: 21   Next: 81%
MP  35/35        EV  7     Int 13 (15) God: Lugonu [******]
Gold 2479        SH 54     Dex 23      Spells:  1 memorised, 19 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     d - +9,+6 demon whip (venom)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     e - +15 Maxwell's patent armour {rCorr, Cons, -Cast -Tele MR+}
rNeg   + + .     Conserve +     h - +2 large shield {AC+3}
rPois  .         rCorr    +     W - +0 mask of the Dragon {MR+ Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv}
rElec  .         rRot     .     o - +2 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   +     m - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut   .         Warding  .     (boots unavailable)
Saprov . . .     NoTele   +     Y - amulet of guardian spirit
MR     +++..     NoCast   +     n - ring "Regu" {rN+ AC+5}
                                F - ring "Zuid" {rN+ Dex+5}

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: hooves 3, horns 2, rugged brown scales 3, clever 1, cold resistance 1,
conserve potions, fast metabolism 1, icemail, powered by pain 2, robust 1,
screaming 2, slow healing 1, spit poison 1, strong 1, augmentation 1
a: Spit Poison, Depart the Abyss, Bend Space, Banish, Corrupt, Enter the Abyss,
Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 5 of the Vaults.
You worship Lugonu.
Lugonu is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 47 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 5308 gold pieces.
You have spent 2829 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 d - a +9,+6 demon whip of venom (weapon)
Armour
 e - the +15 Maxwell's patent armour (worn) {rCorr, Cons, -Cast -Tele MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It prevents spellcasting.
   It prevents most forms of teleportation.
 h - a +2 large shield of protection (worn)
 m - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
 o - a +2 cloak (worn)
 L - the -4 cloak of Eliaqej {rPois Dam+1 SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Swamp)   
   
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+1).
   It protects you from poison.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 W - the +0 mask of the Dragon (worn) {MR+ Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your accuracy with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3).
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Magical devices
 i - a wand of confusion (15)
 j - a wand of draining (2)
 k - a wand of disintegration (2)
 l - a wand of invisibility (1)
 t - a wand of cold (4)
 A - a wand of digging (5)
 N - a wand of polymorph (13)
 R - a wand of paralysis (13)
Comestibles
 b - 8 chokos
 c - 13 bread rations
 p - 2 beef jerkies
 B - 7 cheeses
 M - 5 apples
 T - 2 meat rations
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of immolation
 r - 12 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 y - 2 scrolls of vulnerability
 z - 2 scrolls of recharging
 I - 7 scrolls of identify
 J - 3 scrolls of fear
 K - 5 scrolls of blinking
 U - a scroll of silence
 V - a scroll of fog
 Z - a scroll of amnesia
Jewellery
 f - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 n - the ring "Regu" (right hand) {rN+ AC+5}
   (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   It affects your AC (+5).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 v - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 F - the ring "Zuid" (left hand) {rN+ Dex+5}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   It affects your dexterity (+5).
 S - an uncursed amulet of rage
 X - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 Y - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
Potions
 g - 3 potions of invisibility
 s - 4 potions of might
 w - 5 potions of agility
 C - a potion of flight
 G - a potion of resistance
 H - 2 potions of restore abilities
 O - 2 potions of haste
 P - a potion of berserk rage
 Q - 8 potions of curing
Miscellaneous
 x - a stone of tremors
 E - a lamp of fire
Rods
 D - a -2 rod of shadows (13/13)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)


   Skills:
 - Level 11.3 Fighting
 - Level 15.0 Maces & Flails
 - Level 15.1 Armour
 - Level 1.1 Dodging
 + Level 23.6 Shields
 - Level 13.7 Invocations
 - Level 14.0 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           #.........   100%        1    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:6
  Snake (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Blade (1/1) Vaults:4      Crypt (0/5) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:6 ?   D:7 *   D:10 %   D:14 %((:%   Orc:1 (   Orc:2 %((([   Orc:4 :*!=   Elf:1 [   Elf:2 :   Elf:3 [(!   Vaults:3 (   Vaults:4 !?!([

Annotations:
D:3 Purgy
D:4 Faust's ghost, average TeCj
Abyss:1 Erica; Grinder


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hooves in place of feet.
You are completely covered in rugged brown scales (AC +3, +7% HP).
Your flesh is cold resistant.
You are very good at protecting items from cold.
A meltable icy envelope protects you from harm and freezing vapours (AC +0).
You sometimes gain power by taking damage.
Your magical and physical power is slightly enhanced at high health.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
You have a fast metabolism.
You are robust (+10% HP).
You sometimes yell uncontrollably.
You heal slowly when monsters are visible.
You can spit poison.
Your muscles are strong. (Str +2)


Message History

You now have 2468 gold pieces (gained 29).
Things that are here:
a great sword; 2 poisoned darts; a plate armour; a human corpse
You offer a prayer to Lugonu.
The human corpse is consumed by the void.
Lugonu is exalted by your worship.
You now have 2479 gold pieces (gained 11).
Things that are here:
a cutlass; an elf corpse; a great sword of flaming; a fire giant corpse
You offer a prayer to Lugonu.
The elf corpse is consumed by the void.
The fire giant corpse is consumed by the void.
Lugonu is exalted by your worship.
r - 12 scrolls of remove curse (gained 3)
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, Faust the Demonspawn Abyssal Knight.
Lugonu says: Spread carnage and corruption!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped to 'C:/Users/John Doe/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Faust.txt'.
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In short, I got Maxwell's armour, enchanted the bejesus out of my demon whip, developed some new mutations, found some of the worst randart cloaks imaginable, killed the ice statue and stole the mask of dragon it was guarding. Also, found a large shield of protection.

I then decided to use the acquirement scroll just to look at the menus and what do you know, you can't press escape to cancel like you can do with ANY OTHER SCROLL!

Since I had amazing armour, I decided to get some jewelry, and it was sucky...

At least I know a shop that sells two more of those acquirement scrolls.



Anyway, two miscellaneous questions.

Do you think it would be a good idea to get a distortion brand on my demon whip or should I stick to venom (I worship Lugonu)?

Do you think my character can beat tomb? I know I should probably stick with a 3 rune victory first, but I hope I can get a five with tomb in addition to the abyssal rune.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2017, 07:10:47 pm by heydude6 »
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Lets use the ancient naval art of training war parrots. No one will realize they have been boarded by space war parrots until it is to late!
You can fake being able to run on water. You can't fake looking cool when you break your foot on a door and hit your head on the floor.
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