Topic: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND. (Read 1682121 times)

Cthulhu · « **Reply #11280 on:** October 24, 2013, 09:17:22 am »

Spoiler: I too have found myself in a troubling situation (click to show/hide)

I've been looking at this for about ten minutes now, trying to figure out something I can do. Spell-wise I have control teleport, iron shot, LRD, petrify, orb of destruction, haste, and apportation. Not enough mana to launch my own OOD and maybe survive the burst.

EDIT: Drank mana potion, fired my own OOD. Did not survive.

TripJack · « **Reply #11281 on:** October 24, 2013, 10:28:20 am »

didn't have any heal wounds potions or wands?

Cthulhu · « **Reply #11282 on:** October 24, 2013, 10:35:14 am »

I had an unidentified wand which was probably heal wounds but I didn't realize until I desperation quaffed the mana potion that I had two turns to live. One heal wounds probably wouldn't have saved me from an OOD at 16hp.

EDIT: Just checked the morgue, it was a wand of flame huehue

Man of Paper · « **Reply #11283 on:** October 24, 2013, 02:06:38 pm »

Sums up my Crawl experience pretty well...

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Mr Space Cat · « **Reply #11284 on:** October 24, 2013, 04:27:03 pm »

That gargoyle of chei I mentioned earlier? Ded. Went down a dungeon level to see if I could loot a wand of polymorph for the Okob. While clearing the floor I encountered a hill giant blocking the way into a room that had a fungal colony growing, with a jackal right behind it. I had killed two hill giants previously with no problems, so I figured I could fight another one easily, then go kill the colony.

the hill giant got some lucky hits on me with his giant spiked club, knocking me down to 6 health. suddenly a fungal spore comes from around the corner, from out of line of sight, and is 2 tiles behind the hill giant I'm fighting. About three tiles away from me. And this is the enemy that explodes simply from a thrown stone or a light breeze. I probably should've used step from time to see if the spore would suicide itself by exploding the hill giant. Maybe if I had used temporal distortion then I could force the spore to explode, haven't tried temp. distortion on spores.

Instead I used slouch and was engulfed in the ensuing explosion as the fungal spore died. My bad. To add insult to injury, if I was just 1 tile away from the explosion I would've been out of range.

Chei's still a cool bro to me, it wasn't his fault. I got overconfident in taking on a hill giant and got surprised by the suiciding spore.

Delta Foxtrot · « **Reply #11285 on:** October 24, 2013, 05:01:00 pm »

Something to keep in mind when fighting ogres and giants: xv them to see what they're wielding. With a great mace they're dangerous, with a giant (spiked) club they're downright deadly. Like with all intelligent critters their danger level depends on the weapons they wield.

tompliss · « **Reply #11286 on:** October 24, 2013, 05:02:35 pm »

Yeah, you always need to be careful against teh "giant" family of monsters (the solo ones, ogres at the begining, then giants and cyclops) : With bad luck, they is always a risk that they hit you 4 times in a row...

Cthulhu · « **Reply #11287 on:** October 24, 2013, 05:25:31 pm »

Chei is actually pretty good in linesprint, because "park yourself in a chokepoint and hit tab until you or the enemy is dead, no escape, no surrender" is the whole game.

I know you probably get tired of hearing it, but seriously. Any other God is better than Chei. No god is better than Chei in most cases.

DJ · « **Reply #11288 on:** October 24, 2013, 06:14:51 pm »

Quote from: Cthulhu on October 24, 2013, 05:25:31 pm

Any other God is better than Chei.

Even Xom?

freeformschooler · « **Reply #11289 on:** October 24, 2013, 06:58:25 pm »

Spoiler: Hey, 1 XL more than last time! (click to show/hide)

I really don't learn from mistakes as fast as I should. Again, it came down to the same thing: totally overwhelmed, should have put on tele ring earlier, should have been evoking it earlier, shouldn't have been in swamp unprepared.

Honestly, I'm just not sure how to deal with some of those enemies in general. I had rPois (but no Flaming to deal with the hydras). Clarity would have been really useful as I spent several turns zerked by something just before the inevitable swarmdeath.

Maybe watching someone play swamp would actually help. Lair was easy for the first time, but this was in its own league.

Main observation from this round: freeze is beautiful in Lair, among other places. When you spend most of your time running from big things (Cowards Win Crawl), a consistent way to slow some of those things down is very useful.

Leafsnail · « **Reply #11290 on:** October 24, 2013, 08:04:19 pm »

Quote from: DJ on October 24, 2013, 06:14:51 pm

Even Xom?

Yes. The only exception I can think of is maybe for clarity-less mummies, because Xom's confusion is so crippling for them. But "maybe slightly better than the absolute worst combination in the game" is not much of a recommendation.

monk12 · « **Reply #11291 on:** October 24, 2013, 11:43:54 pm »

Quote from: freeformschooler on October 24, 2013, 06:58:25 pm

Spoiler: Hey, 1 XL more than last time! (click to show/hide)
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-364-gd3b3d37 (webtiles) character file.

17516 freeformschooler the Fencer (level 12, -2/124 HPs)
Began as a Human Fighter on Oct 24, 2013.
Was the Champion of Makhleb.
Slain by a spiny frog (4 damage)
... on Level 1 of the Swamp.
The game lasted 01:21:31 (18501 turns).

freeformschooler the Fencer (Human Fighter) Turns: 18501, Time: 01:21:32

HP -2/124 AC 19 Str 23 XL: 12 Next: 74%
MP 11/11 EV 12 Int 9 God: Makhleb [******]
Gold 700 SH 0 Dex 16 Spells: 0 memorised, 11 levels left

Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . b - +3,+2 great sword "String" {freeze, rPois rF+}
Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . M - +1 chain mail {MR+}
Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield)
Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . (no helmet)
Res.Elec. : + Clarity : . A - +0 cloak of Starlight {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth-}
Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . X - +2 pair of dwarf gauntlets
Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . l - +1 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : . Flight : . J - amulet of faith
Saprovore : . . . W - ring of protection from cold
k - ring of sustenance

@: berserking, very slightly contaminated, very quick, quite resistant to
hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: spit poison 1
a: Spit Poison, Minor Destruction, Lesser Servant of Makhleb, Major Destruction,
Greater Servant of Makhleb, Renounce Religion

You were on level 1 of the Swamp.
You worshipped Makhleb.
Makhleb was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and saw 18 of its levels.

You collected 904 gold pieces.
You spent 224 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
a - a +4,+2 falchion
b - the +3,+2 great sword "String" (weapon) {freeze, rPois rF+}
(You acquired it on level 8 of the Dungeon)

It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.

It protects you from fire.
It protects you from poison.
f - a +3,+3 dagger of chaos
h - a +0 blowgun
Missiles
g - 5 javelins (quivered)
j - 53 poisoned needles
m - 5 curare-tipped needles
Armour
l - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
A - the +0 cloak of Starlight (worn) {rElec rC+ EV+4 Stlth-}
(You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)

It affects your evasion (+4).
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.
It makes you much less stealthy.
F - a +0 fire dragon armour
M - a +1 chain mail of magic resistance (worn)
X - a +2 pair of dwarven gauntlets (worn)
Y - the +2 scale mail "Lapeef" {Stlth--}
(You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)

It makes you much less stealthy.
Magical devices
o - a wand of hasting (2)
p - a wand of flame (2)
D - a wand of disintegration (5)
G - a wand of lightning (1)
H - a wand of teleportation (0)
N - a wand of fire (5)
V - a wand of flame (2)
Comestibles
d - 5 bread rations
C - a meat ration
Scrolls
e - 9 scrolls of remove curse
q - a scroll of enchant weapon I
t - a scroll of immolation
v - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
S - a scroll of vulnerability
Jewellery
i - a cursed ring of fire
k - a ring of sustenance (left hand)
s - an uncursed amulet of conservation {unknown}
u - an uncursed ring of ice
I - an uncursed ring of magical power
J - an amulet of faith (around neck)
U - an uncursed ring of teleportation
W - a ring of protection from cold (right hand)
Potions
w - 5 potions of curing
B - a potion of heal wounds {unknown}
P - a potion of speed
Q - 2 potions of brilliance
Miscellaneous
z - a plain deck of defence {drawn: 4}

Skills:
- Level 3.0 Fighting
- Level 17.0 Long Blades
* Level 9.0 Armour
Level 3.0 Shields

You had 11 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/27) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (0/4) D:11
Lair (4/8) D:12 Swamp (1/5) Lair:4
Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Spider: Lair:3-6

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:5 /

Annotations:
D:7 exclusion: door
Lair:2 exclusion: 2 oklob plants
Lair:3 I COULD REALLY GO FOR SOME HIPPOGRYPH ABOUT NOW

Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can spit poison.

Message History

The vampire mosquito is severely damaged.
The vampire mosquito bites you but does no damage.
The vampire mosquito bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The vampire mosquito draws strength from your injuries!
The vampire mosquito bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The bog body begins to rapidly decay!
The alligator is engulfed in noxious fumes.
The alligator appears confused.
The alligator bites the vampire mosquito!
The alligator tail-slaps the vampire mosquito!
The vampire mosquito is destroyed!
You are too berserk!
You are too berserk!
The vampire mosquito bites you but does no damage.
Unknown command.
You feel a strong urge to attack something.
The bog body's decay slows. The spiny frog stings you.
You die...

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You could see an alligator (confused), a bog body, a spiny frog, 2 swamp worms,
2 swamp drakes, 3 vampire mosquitoes and a water moccasin.

I really don't learn from mistakes as fast as I should. Again, it came down to the same thing: totally overwhelmed, should have put on tele ring earlier, should have been evoking it earlier, shouldn't have been in swamp unprepared.

Honestly, I'm just not sure how to deal with some of those enemies in general. I had rPois (but no Flaming to deal with the hydras). Clarity would have been really useful as I spent several turns zerked by something just before the inevitable swarmdeath.

Maybe watching someone play swamp would actually help. Lair was easy for the first time, but this was in its own league.

Main observation from this round: freeze is beautiful in Lair, among other places. When you spend most of your time running from big things (Cowards Win Crawl), a consistent way to slow some of those things down is very useful.

Quote from: freeformschooler on October 24, 2013, 06:58:25 pm

Lair:3 I COULD REALLY GO FOR SOME HIPPOGRYPH ABOUT NOW

Okay, I gotta ask, what was that?

But yes, in general it was waaaay too early to stick your head in Swamp. I'll note that not only is it something you should be putting off until much later (you should be able to clear Lair and Orc at least,) but there isn't much in the way of good loot down there, either, so there's not much point to diving until you're strong enough to tackle the bottom, apart from the XP on the way. My usual path for melee would be to clear out Lair, then Orc (the knights and warlords wear and use good stuff at the bottom, plus there's shops to round out a build,) then D down to 20 or so before tackling the first four floors of Swamp/Shoals/Spider/Snake. Obviously a lot depends on whether you meet any dangerous uniques or monsters on any of those floors; just bounce to another branch when things get too spicy.

Jack_Bread · « **Reply #11292 on:** October 26, 2013, 08:35:42 pm »

Uhg, I'm so pissed. I played about 11 Naga Wizard/Conjurers that died on D1 before a friend told me to try Transmuter.
I was doing really well! I worshipped Chei and was close to getting my blade hands to a castable state, but I blindly ran into an ice statuedthat nailed me twice in my slowness. x(

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.0 (tiles) character file.

3722 Steady the Magician (level 10, 0/86 HPs)
             Began as a Naga Transmuter on Oct 26, 2013.
             Was a Follower of Cheibriados.
             Killed from afar by an ice statue (23 damage)
             ... with a freezing blast
             
             ... on Level 8 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 00:39:53 (12679 turns).

Steady the Magician (Naga Transmuter)              Turns: 12679, Time: 00:39:53

HP   0/86        AC  2     Str 17      XL: 10   Next:  5%
MP  21/23        EV 19     Int 19      God: Cheibriados [*.....]
Gold 302         SH  0     Dex 19      Spells:  4 memorised, 10 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +     - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   x - melded +5 leather armour of Lorusm {+Fly rF+ SInv Curse}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield currently unavailable)
Res.Poison: x       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet currently unavailable)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   m - melded +2 cloak {MR+}
Sust.Abil.: + .     Spirit.Shd : .   w - melded +0 pair of gauntlets
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (no barding)
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : . . .                    (no ring)
                                     q - ring of sustain abilities

@: spider-form, slow, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: spit poison, see invisible, berserk 1, (deformed body), deterioration 1,
(poison resistance), screaming 1, (slowness 0), AC +3
a: Spit Poison, End Transformation, Bend Time, Renounce Religion


You were on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Cheibriados.
Cheibriados was aware of your devotion.
You were very hungry.

You were in spider-form.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 9 of its levels.

You collected 282 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Missiles
 b - 12 arrows
Armour
 m - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (melded)
 w - a +0 pair of gauntlets (melded)
 x - the +5 leather armour of Lorusm (melded) {+Fly rF+ SInv Curse}
   (You took it off a goblin on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you fly.
   It may recurse itself.
Magical devices
 D - a wand of frost (8)
 H - a wand of confusion (11) {unknown}
Comestibles
 a - 3 bread rations
 g - 3 pears
 t - a meat ration
 B - an apricot
Scrolls
 c - 2 scrolls of curse jewellery {unknown}
 e - 7 scrolls of identify
 h - 3 scrolls of enchant armour {unknown}
 j - a scroll of immolation {unknown}
 k - 3 scrolls of remove curse {unknown}
 l - 2 scrolls of noise {unknown}
 n - 3 scrolls of blinking {unknown}
 o - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 r - 2 scrolls of recharging {unknown}
 s - 3 scrolls of amnesia {unknown}
 u - a scroll of curse weapon {unknown}
 v - a scroll of magic mapping {unknown}
 C - a scroll of fog {unknown}
Jewellery
 q - a ring of sustain abilities (left front leg)
 L - an uncursed amulet of stasis
Potions
 f - a potion of brilliance
 i - 2 potions of curing
 A - a potion of speed {unknown}
 I - a potion of paralysis {unknown}
Books
 d - a book of Changes   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Beastly Appendage                 Transmutation                1
   Sticks to Snakes                   Transmutation                2
   *Spider Form                       Transmutation/Poison         3
   Ice Form                           Ice/Transmutation            4
   *Blade Hands                       Transmutation                5
 y - a book of Party Tricks   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Summon Butterflies                 Summoning                    1
   Apportation                        Translocation                1
   Blink                              Translocation                2
   Alistair's Intoxication            Transmutation/Poison         4
   Tukima's Dance                     Hexes                        5
 z - a book of Annihilations {highlevel}   
   This book is beyond your current level of understanding.
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Poison Arrow                       Conjuration/Poison           6
   Orb of Destruction                 Conjuration                  7
   Chain Lightning                    Conjuration/Air              8
   Lehudib's Crystal Spear            Conjuration/Earth            8
   Ice Storm                          Conjuration/Ice              9
   Fire Storm                         Conjuration/Fire             9
 E - a book of Minor Magic   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Magic Dart                         Conjuration                  1
   Blink                              Translocation                2
   Call Imp                           Summoning                    2
   Repel Missiles                     Charms/Air                   2
   Slow                               Hexes                        2
   Conjure Flame                      Conjuration/Fire             3
   *Mephitic Cloud                    Conjuration/Poison/Air       3
 F - a book of Air   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Shock                              Conjuration/Air              1
   Swiftness                          Charms/Air                   2
   Repel Missiles                     Charms/Air                   2
   Flight                             Charms/Air                   3
   Static Discharge                   Conjuration/Air              3
   Lightning Bolt                     Conjuration/Air              5


   Skills:
 + Level 5.6 Fighting
 + Level 3.3 Armour
 - Level 1.5 Dodging
 - Level 6.1 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 6.8 Spellcasting
 + Level 6.4 Transmutations
 + Level 2.8 Air Magic
 - Level 5.2 Poison Magic


You had 10 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Spider Form           Trmt/Pois      ####......   10%         3    ##.....
b - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  ###.....     28%         3    ##.....
c - Blade Hands           Trmt           ####......   41%         5    #####..
d - Beastly Appendage     Trmt           ####..       4%          1    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:7         
   Orc: D:6-11        Lair: D:8-13      

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:8 +

Annotations:
D:6 Philo's ghost, experienced GrGl
D:7 Poloya's ghost, experienced CeHu
D:8 exclusions: ice statue and silver statue


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear boots.
You can spit poison.
((Your serpentine skin is tough (AC +3).))*
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
((Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.))*
((Your system is resistant to poisons.))*
((You cover ground extremely slowly.))*
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You occasionally shout uncontrollably.


Message History

The +5 leather armour of Lorusm {+Fly rF+ SInv Curse} melds into your body.
You are feeling very hungry.
You bite the ogre skeleton! The ogre skeleton misses you.
You bite the ogre skeleton! The ogre skeleton hits you!
You hit the ogre skeleton.
You hit the ogre skeleton. The ogre skeleton hits you.
You hit the ogre skeleton but do no damage.
The ogre skeleton hits you.
You bite the ogre skeleton!
You destroy the ogre skeleton!
No target in view!
Marking area around the ice statue as unsafe for travelling.
An ice statue comes into view.
The ice statue throws cold at you.
The freezing blast hits you!
One of your 2 red potions freezes and shatters!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The ice statue throws cold at you.
The freezing blast hits you!
You die...

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#.......§§§.......
#................
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#.............#
#############.#
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           #...#
   #########...#


You could see an ice statue.

Vanquished Creatures
  An orange demon (D:8)
  The ghost of Draken the Insei, an average DrTm (D:4)
  The ghost of Steady the Ruinous, an average NaCj (D:5)
  2 hill giant zombies (D:8)
  2 orc warriors
  An ice beast (D:5)
  2 phantoms
  2 centaurs
  5 ogres
  A rotting devil (D:8)
  2 giant frogs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:7)
  A manticore zombie (D:6)
  5 crimson imps
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  A giant frog zombie (D:7)
  A giant frog skeleton (D:3)
  An iron imp (D:8)
  A centaur skeleton (D:6)
  6 hounds
  Crazy Yiuf (D:5)
  A gnoll shaman (D:6)
  4 orc priests
  9 orc wizards
  A scorpion (D:7)
  A worker ant (D:4)
  Ijyb (D:4)
  A big kobold zombie (D:7)
  A crocodile skeleton (D:7)
  2 ogre skeletons
  A worker ant zombie (D:7)
  17 adders
  12 gnolls
  A white imp (D:8)
  2 giant mites
  5 worms
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  3 giant eyeballs
  6 giant geckos
  4 oozes
  23 orcs
  A ball python (D:4)
  A bat skeleton (D:5)
  4 giant cockroaches
  11 goblins
  14 hobgoblins
  10 jackals
  10 kobolds
  23 bats
  8 giant newts
  A kobold skeleton (D:5)
  3 orc skeletons
  4 quokkas
  16 rats
  A butterfly (D:7)
242 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A giant spore (D:8)
  A quokka (D:5)
  A ballistomycete (D:8)
3 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 245 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Steady, the Naga Transmuter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   400 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/25 MP: 0/3
  1389 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/31 MP: 2/4
  1863 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spider Form
  2457 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/38 MP: 6/6
  3313 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 30/45 MP: 7/9
  3732 | D:3      | Learned a level 5 spell: Blade Hands
  3881 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. [mutagenic glow]
  3912 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [mutagenic glow]
  3926 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow]
  3940 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You cover ground extremely slowly. [mutagenic glow]
  4021 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  4030 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  4030 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/52 MP: 7/11
  4051 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
  4579 | D:4      | Noticed Draken's ghost (average DrTm)
  4613 | D:4      | Killed Draken's ghost
  4613 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 38/60 MP: 2/15
  4634 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  4665 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  4689 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  4699 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  4878 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4878 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
  4903 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  5078 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  5090 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  5090 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  5398 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5398 | D:5      | Noticed Steady's ghost (average NaCj)
  5563 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/68 MP: 17/17
  5645 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  5828 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
  6009 | D:5      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  6178 | D:5      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6193 | D:5      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  6283 | D:5      | Killed Steady's ghost
  6283 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  6458 | D:5      | Got a brightly glowing leather armour
  6466 | D:5      | Identified the +5 leather armour of Lorusm {+Fly rF+ SInv Curse} (You took it off a goblin on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  7137 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  7307 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 33/75 MP: 16/20
  7822 | D:6      | Noticed Philo's ghost (experienced GrGl)
  8372 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
  8685 | D:7      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  9119 | D:7      | HP: 3/76 [poisoned by a scorpion]
  9484 | D:7      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  9494 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  9565 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  9572 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  9870 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
  9893 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9893 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 10395 | D:7      | Noticed Poloya's ghost (experienced CeHu)
 10635 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 11057 | D:8      | Found Yladidy's Book Shop.
 11749 | D:8      | Acquired Cheibriados' first power
 11798 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 11807 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 11960 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 47/85 MP: 16/22
 12678 | D:8      | Noticed an ice statue
 12679 | D:8      | Killed from afar by an ice statue


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |   164 |   196 |   656 |    53 ||  1069
 Cast: Beastly Appendage |    25 |    21 |    15 |       ||    61
       Spider Form       |       |     3 |    66 |     4 ||    73
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Blade Hands       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
 Abil: End Transformatio |       |       |    30 |       ||    30
       Spit Poison       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |       |     1 |     2 |     2 ||     5
       Potion            |       |       |    14 |     1 ||    15
 Stab: Confused          |       |       |     2 |       ||     2

I had beserkitis, too, but Chei was apparently cool with that.

Cthulhu · « **Reply #11293 on:** October 27, 2013, 04:22:32 am »

Tm of Chei hasn't been a good idea since he stopped branding your gear, among the many reasons that thing you just mentioned (one fumbled step and you take a barrage of attacks). Okawaru, Makhleb, those are better options.

I had a real spirit breaker today. Gargoyle Gladiator using staves, was up to 12 points when I found Leech, the awesome vamp demonblade. So I switched to long blades obviously. Then I found Pearl Dragon Armor. Then I found a randart ring with regen and my third pip of life protection. Fuck shadow dragons, apparently

So while I'm tabbing my way through the pre-lair with my bullshit overpowered gear, I come to some weird level setup full of green crystal walls and a shitload of wizards. Shitty wizards. I tab them down, no big deal, except

except

wizards have the erolcha spellset

wizards have lcs

pearl dragon armor doesn't matter when you eat an lcs at level 12

Leafsnail · « **Reply #11294 on:** October 27, 2013, 07:18:52 am »

Quote from: Jack_Bread on October 26, 2013, 08:35:42 pm

I had beserkitis, too, but Chei was apparently cool with that.

He doesn't mind you going berserk, but he also makes it virtually useless by removing the haste part of it.

Better options than Chei for a transmuter: any other god, no god

Good options for a transmuter: Makhleb, Okawaru, Fedhas, Nemelex, Kiku, Lugonu, Jiyva

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