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[Nivim]

Oh. Did the update come out?

If you mean they finally put a 0.13 release compile on the main site: no, they're working on putting it into shape for a named release, but 0.13 is still trunk (meaning you compile it yourself or play online).
 If you mean they cherry-picked some bug fixes to the 0.12.2 release; yes.

[frostshotgg]

You can download trunk compiled too.

[Nivim]

Oh right Windows exists. Here they are, with an obvious address name and everything.

[Kelbin]

I'm going through my first post-end game now, with a ogre of TSO

I had several near-death situations, just for being in the line of sight of tormentors for a couple turns (often in open areas).

In the tomb, I often ended up with less than 50 hp the instant I go down stairs. In pan I usually try to dig two diagonal lines, so I can at least fight one on one, but how else are you even supposed to deal with them?

*Sigh*

At least I can one/two shot some Pan lords.

Also does anyone know if TSO gets upset just for wielding a poison weapon or using it on Demons\Animals\Evil creatures? Because a poison giant club is my only known source of renewable blinks.

[Mr Space Cat]

TSO shouldn't have an issue with wielding the weapons, just using them on others upsets him. If I recall correctly, he doesn't mind if you use poison on demons, because, hey, they're demons. Possibly you could also use poison on mindless creatures/animals, but you may want to double check that, I can't guarantee I'm right about that.

[tryrar]

so, at what point should I switch out my awesome antimagic battleaxe for the even more awesome executioner's axe of Venom Trog just gifted me(skillwise I mean)

For ref, right now I'm at 13 points of axes

[Antioch]

I'm going through my first post-end game now, with a ogre of TSO

I had several near-death situations, just for being in the line of sight of tormentors for a couple turns (often in open areas).

In the tomb, I often ended up with less than 50 hp the instant I go down stairs. In pan I usually try dig two diagonal lines, so I can at least fight one on one, but how else are you even supposed to deal with them?

*Sigh*

At least I can one/two shot some Pan lords.

Spam Angels like there is no tomorrow, if your piety drops go to another branch until it is replenished again. Also: Fog and haste

[TripJack]

so, at what point should I switch out my awesome antimagic battleaxe for the even more awesome executioner's axe of Venom Trog just gifted me(skillwise I mean)

For ref, right now I'm at 13 points of axes

when your attack speed with it gets to an acceptable level (average or better i'd say)

but venom isn't a very awesome brand for an executioner's axe

[tryrar]

I kn

so, at what point should I switch out my awesome antimagic battleaxe for the even more awesome executioner's axe of Venom Trog just gifted me(skillwise I mean)

For ref, right now I'm at 13 points of axes

when your attack speed with it gets to an acceptable level (average or better i'd say)

but venom isn't a very awesome brand for an executioner's axe

I know, that's why I blew a scroll of brand weapon on it(and came up with a vorpal weapon, but at least it's better than venom!)

Though, I have a different problem now. I just got cast into the abyss by a distortion weapon wielded by a unique enemy....after getting severly drained in the process of trying to murderize them. Tips on survival until I find an exit?

Edit: Ummm, nevermind, just got completely assraped by a lich that showed up. Damn, distortion can be nasty....

[TripJack]

teleportation is your best friend in the Abyss, unfortunately there are several monsters in the Abyss that can and will rape your scrolls with sticky flame so it really comes down to luck and whether or not you can find an exit before you run out of escape tools

even with conservation it's still only a matter of time

[tryrar]

Wow, mystic blast supported by a battlesphere is a nasty combo

GODDAMIT. Ran into a six headed hydra rounding a corner, and basically got insta-gibbed before I could get off a teleport. $#%$#%$#%$#%$#%$#%$#

[Kelbin]

Spam Angels like there is no tomorrow, if your piety drops go to another branch until it is replenished again. Also: Fog and haste

I'll try to be less conservative with my angels, I need to get into the least amount of bad situations as possible since I lack Ctele and only have 1 blink scroll.

Hah, I'm carrying the only fog scroll in the entire game and I haven't even used one yet, and I had preservation for most of the game, It's the fucking sticky flames, it burns at least 1 scroll on the first turn for me every time, after I drop any important scrolls, even with conservation.

[Graven]

so, at what point should I switch out my awesome antimagic battleaxe for the even more awesome executioner's axe of Venom Trog just gifted me(skillwise I mean)

For ref, right now I'm at 13 points of axes

And for my next trick, a quick and dirt explanation of attack delay :

That percent base delay when you examine the weapon is your attack speed. If it's 100%, you can think of it as delay of 10 time units. The min delay for any weapon is the base delay, divided in half and rounded down, but no more than 7.

So for an executioner axe [base delay 200%], the min delay is 7. Each 2 points in weapon skill reduce the delay by one time unit [10%]. So to hit min delay with an exec axe you need to negate 200-70= 130% delay, or you need 26 axes skill.

edit : RAAARGRAAARGHRHAHRAAAAGH

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2716-gc56f784 (tiles) character file.

1300970 Gravenous the Petrodigitator (level 27, -20/157 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Earth Elementalist on Sept 14, 2013.
             Was the Champion of Vehumet.
             Demolished by a spectral ettin (29 damage)
             ... summoned by a greater mummy
             ... on Level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients on Sept 21, 2013.
             The game lasted 08:45:26 (199930 turns).

Gravenous the Petrodigitator (GrEE)               Turns: 199930, Time: 08:45:26

HP -20/157       AC 39     Str 12 (14) XL: 27
MP  20/49        EV 12     Int 28 (29) God: Vehumet [******]
Gold 8727        SH 35     Dex  9 (10) Spells: 15 memorised, 14 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   F - staff of energy
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : .   J - +2 robe {rN+}
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : .   d - +3 shield {AC+3}
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   D - +2 helmet {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   l - +2 cloak {MR+} (curse)
Sust.Abil.: + .     Spirit.Shd : .   w - +2 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   Y - +2 pair of boots {run}
Res.Rott. : +       Flight     : +   S - cursed amulet "Puuwafam" {rMut rC+}
Saprovore : . . .                    g - cursed ring of sustain abilities
                                     s - cursed ring of the Countless Beggars {rEle

@: flying, quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: large and strong wings, fangs 1, talons 2, see invisible, -20% hp, life
protection 1, electricity resistance, slow metabolism 1, unbreathing,
petrification resistance, AC +20, Str -1
a: Stop Flying, Renounce Religion
}: 13/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, iron, obsidian, icy, bone,
demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark


You were on level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was exalted by your worship.
You were near starving.

You visited 17 branches of the dungeon, and saw 104 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 3 times, and saw 44 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 3 times.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary and Ice Cave.

You collected 10964 gold pieces.
You spent 2257 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 L - the +4,+4 Staff of Dispater
   (You took it off Dispater on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
Armour
 d - a +3 shield of protection (worn)
 l - a cursed +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 t - the -2 robe "Pnorphaj" {rF+}
   (You found it on level 26 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
 w - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 D - a +2 helmet of intelligence (worn)
 J - a +2 robe of positive energy (worn)
 N - the cursed +2 robe of Grot {rElec rC+}
   (You took it off an ironbrand convoker on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 Y - a +2 pair of boots of running (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of digging (18)
 i - a wand of teleportation (6)
 m - a wand of heal wounds (5)
Comestibles
 k - 2 meat rations
 o - 2 beef jerkies
 y - 3 apples
 W - 2 bread rations
Scrolls
 v - a scroll of remove curse
Jewellery
 a - the cursed ring "Plog" {+Fly rF+ Str+4 Int+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It lets you fly.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 b - a cursed amulet of resist corrosion
 g - a cursed ring of sustain abilities (right hand)
 s - the cursed ring of the Countless Beggars (left hand) {rElec rC+ rN+ SInv}
   (You took it off an angel in Pandemonium)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 B - the cursed ring of Doef {Str+4 Dex-2 Acc+5 Dam+5}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Abyss)   
   
   [ring of slaying]
   It affects your accuracy (+5).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+5).
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 G - the cursed ring "Awimuj" {rC+ SInv}
   (You found it on level 7 of Cocytus)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   It protects you from cold.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 M - the cursed ring of Kausch {rPois rN+ SInv}
   (You took it off an ogre mage on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of poison resistance]
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 O - the cursed ring "Thacw" {+/*Tele Dex+3 Int+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of teleportation]
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 P - a cursed amulet of stasis
 Q - the cursed ring of Impatience {Wiz rElec}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 S - the cursed amulet "Puuwafam" (around neck) {rMut rC+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of resist mutation]
   It protects you from cold.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 T - a cursed ring of protection from fire
 Z - the ring "Tablibb" {MR Str+2 Acc+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your accuracy (+4).
Potions
 q - 2 potions of restore abilities
 C - a potion of heal wounds
 I - a potion of curing
Magical staves
 c - an uncursed staff of earth
 F - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon)
Miscellaneous
 e - the horn of Geryon
 h - a fan of gales
 j - a sack of spiders
 n - a lamp of fire
 p - a phial of floods
 r - a phial of floods
 u - a sack of spiders
 x - a stone of tremors
 z - a sack of spiders
 A - a stone of tremors
 E - a sack of spiders
 H - a lamp of fire
 K - a stone of tremors
 R - a phial of floods
 U - a stone of tremors
 V - a phial of floods
 X - a fan of gales


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 12,1 Staves
 - Level 1,5 Dodging
 - Level 2,1 Stealth
 * Level 23,0 Shields
 O Level 27 Spellcasting
 O Level 27 Conjurations
 - Level 14,4 Charms
 - Level 16,0 Translocations
 - Level 0,7 Transmutations
 O Level 27 Earth Magic
 O Level 27 Evocations


You had 14 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    None
b - Stone Arrow           Conj/Erth      ######       0%          3    None
c - Lee's Rapid Deconstr  Erth           ########..   0%          5    None
d - Iron Shot             Conj/Erth      ########..   0%          6    None
e - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      #######...   0%          2    None
f - Shatter               Erth           ########..   1%          9    None
g - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    None
h - Lehudib's Crystal Sp  Conj/Erth      ########..   1%          8    None
i - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          0%          2    None
j - Statue Form           Trmt/Erth      #######...   1%          6    None
k - Haste                 Chrm           #######.     1%          6    None
l - Controlled Blink      Tloc           N/A          1%          7    None
n - Sandblast             Erth           ######       0%          1    None
o - Dig                   Erth           ########     0%          4    None
s - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ######....   1%          3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:6
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
  Snake (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (6/6) Lair:7       Vaults (5/5) D:17
  Blade (0/1) Vaults:4      Crypt (5/5) Vaults:2       Tomb (1/3) Crypt:2
    Dis (7/7) Hell            Geh (7/7) Hell            Coc (7/7) Hell
    Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) D:27       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4: %*  D:6: [  D:7: ?  D:11: *?*+  D:12: *  D:21: }  Orc:1: }  Orc:4: (/*?

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:22 D:24 D:25
Pandemonium: D:24

Annotations
D:10 Grum
Lair:5 Rupert


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +20).*
Your wings are large and strong.*
You have very sharp teeth.*
You have razor-sharp toenails.*
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.*
You have a slow metabolism.
You can survive without breathing.*
You are immune to petrification.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are very frail (-20% HP).
You are weak (Str -1).


Message History

The hungry ghost hits you but does no damage.
Unknown command.
You hear a distant "Zot"!
You channel some magical energy.
You are near starving!
You channel some magical energy. You feel slightly more hungry. You block the hungry ghost's attack.
The spectral ettin barely misses you.
The spectral ettin hits you but does no damage.
You channel some magical energy. You feel slightly more hungry. You block the hungry ghost's attack.
The spectral ettin hits you but does no damage.
The spectral ettin hits you!
You channel some magical energy. You feel slightly more hungry. You block the hungry ghost's attack.
You block the flayed ghost's attack. The spectral ettin hits you! The spectral ettin misses you.
You channel some magical energy. You feel slightly more hungry. You block the hungry ghost's attack.
The flayed ghost hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The spectral ettin hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The spectral ettin hits you!
You die...

SPECTRAL ETTIN

GOD DAMN SPECTRAL ETTIN

THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THIS

SO MAD

[DJ]

What's AC like on a gargoyle with statue form and stoneskin?

[Graven]

I believe the scientifict measure is "a metric fuckton", but it doesn't help at all in extended, since gargoyles are at -2 HP apt, putting them on the level of Deep Elves.

Doesn't matter, I restarted a GrGl with maces, and guess what I found on D:8.

THE +6/+10 GREAT MACE "ROLUW" [SPEED, rF+, +1 INT]

WATCH ME GET ABYSSED IN 20 TURNS.

I'm gonna pause playing a bit, since this is bonkers.

edit : Oh hi +9 randart PDA