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[Max White]

The dead and other low level summons can't see invisible, so imps can counter one of he's more annoying tricks.

[G-Flex]

That's assuming he goes invisible, of course. Sometimes he doesn't.

[Max White]

But sometimes he does, and when it happens, I will be there, with imps, hundreds of imps.

[Kay12]

By the way, at which point should Vehumet start gifting those books? My vamp wizard was at Warlock (****..) when he died and hadn't got any.

[Dakk]

Wow, octopods are powerful. While they're completely reliant on their magic, they're extremely powerful casters, and since magic and intrinsics are king in crawl, they make a nice endgame race to play. They're really fragile though, even more then felids since they lack the evasion.

[G-Flex]

they're extremely powerful casters

Huh? How so?

[Max White]

Good int, and fast to level up, so lots of spell slots.

[G-Flex]

Octopodes have worse stat growth than humans, and it isn't weighted towards Int. Their spellcasting aptitude also isn't very good compared to most spellcasting-oriented races, nor are most of their magic school aptitudes, and those matter a lot more than level. You get two spell levels for every point in spellcasting, but only one per experience level. Spellcasting also raises your MP and affects spell power and success rates, jfyi.

[Max White]

Well, I guess they just suck then.

[breadbocks]

They specialize in UC, which means they'd make good monks or TMs, and they'd be decent Bes.

[Max White]

Squishy monk is squishy...

[breadbocks]

Fine, then go TM. MF are just as squishy.

[breadbocks]

Man, Crawl is mean. I had an amazing DEIE going. Then it threw an Ice Beast at me before I had summon Ice Beast.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

684 Johnny the Chiller (level 7, -2/33 HPs)
             Began as a Deep Elf Ice Elementalist on July 4, 2011.
             Slain by an ice beast (7 damage)
             ... on Level 4 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 00:15:15 (3767 turns).

Johnny the Chiller (Deep Elf Ice Elementalist)                                          Turns: 3767, Time: 00:15:15

HP  -2/33        AC  5     Str  7      Exp: 7/792 (498), need: 621
MP  20/20        EV 11     Int 20      God:
Gold 130         SH 11     Dex 15      Spells:  3 memorised,  6 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .    A - +4,+1 elf short sword (vamp)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : . .  a - +0 elf robe
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    x - +0 buckler
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    (no helmet)
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .    (no cloak)
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    t - +2 pair of gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    (no boots)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    j - ring of protection from cold
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    i - ring of protection from fire

@: slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: no striking features
a: no special abilities


You were on level 4 of the Dungeon.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 4 of its levels.

You collected 110 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 A - a +4,+1 elven vampiric short sword (weapon)
Armour
 a - a +0 elven robe (worn)
 t - a +2 pair of gauntlets (worn)
 x - a +0 buckler (worn)
 B - a +0 pair of boots
Comestibles
 c - a chunk of giant newt flesh
 h - a bread ration
Scrolls
 d - a scroll of random uselessness
 p - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 s - a scroll of teleportation
 v - a scroll of identify
Jewellery
 i - a ring of protection from fire (left hand)
 j - a ring of protection from cold (right hand)
Potions
 f - a potion of degeneration {unknown}
 o - 2 potions of slowing {unknown}
 q - a potion of restore abilities {unknown}
 r - a potion of healing {unknown}
 u - a potion of heal wounds {unknown}
 z - a potion of agility {unknown}
Books
 b - a book of Frost   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Freeze                            Ice                          1
   Throw Frost                        Conjuration/Ice              2
   *Ozocubu's Armour                  Charms/Ice                   3
   *Throw Icicle                      Conjuration/Ice              4
   Summon Ice Beast                   Ice/Summoning                5
   Freezing Cloud                     Conjuration/Ice/Air          6


 You had 498 experience left.

   Skills:
 - Level 2 Dodging
 + Level 3 Stealth
 + Level 4 Spellcasting
 + Level 1 Conjurations
 + Level 2 Charms
 + Level 7 Ice Magic


You had 6 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            #####        Excellent   1    None
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Ice/Chrm       ####......   Great       3    Choko
c - Throw Icicle          Ice/Conj       ####.....    Fair        4    Honeycomb


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (4/27)           
Temple: D:4-7       

Altars:

Message History

You barely miss the ice beast. The ice beast hits you. The ice beast freezes you.
Your shield prevents you from hitting the ice beast.
The ice beast hits you. The ice beast freezes you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You drop 2 red potions. The ice beast hits you. The ice beast freezes you.
One of your 2 inky potions freezes and shatters!
You die...

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You could see an ice beast.

Vanquished Creatures
  Edmund (D:4)
  The ghost of Johnny the Charlatan, an average SpAr (D:4)
  An ogre (D:4)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  The ghost of Johnny the Charlatan, a weakling SpAr (D:3)
  Dowan (D:4)
  A snake (D:3)
  3 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:3)
  4 orcs (D:3)
  4 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  6 hobgoblins
  2 quokkas
  5 giant newts
  3 kobolds
  11 megabats
  7 rats
  3 small snakes
  2 toadstools
74 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Johnny, the Deep Elf Ice Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 8/8 MP: 4/4
   562 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
   620 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/12 MP: 2/7
  1319 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/16 MP: 7/9
  1325 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1432 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  2358 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 16/20 MP: 7/13
  2364 | D:3      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  2371 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  2470 | D:3      | Noticed Johnny's ghost (weakling SpAr)
  2481 | D:3      | Defeated Johnny's ghost
  3377 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  3446 | D:4      | Noticed Johnny's ghost (average SpAr)
  3453 | D:4      | Defeated Johnny's ghost
  3453 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 12/25 MP: 2/15
  3567 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  3586 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
  3589 | D:4      | Defeated Duvessa
  3589 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 13/28 MP: 2/18
  3611 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  3623 | D:4      | Defeated Dowan
  3673 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3684 | D:4      | Defeated Edmund
  3727 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 20/33 MP: 17/20
  3767 | D:4      | Slain by an ice beast

[Il Palazzo]

Man, I love Felid berserkers!

[G-Flex]

Why didn't you just use Throw Icicle?