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[Mr.Person]

The problem with throwing nets is that the monsters you want to hold are either high HD or pack monsters, but either way the nets are useless. And of course things that aren't high HD or pack monsters don't need to have throwing nets used on them.

[DJ]

Trapping a pack monster in a narrow corridor could be useful, I guess, since it'd slow down the whole pack.

[Antioch]

Its usually better to throw another javalin in the monsters face or get the hell out of there.

[DJ]

Oh, I mean for getting out of there. The net will give you a couple of turns to gain some distance.

[Mr.Person]

If you need distance, that implies the pack monster is faster than you and/or has a ranged attack. I suppose it might help to trap an elf conjurer in a hallway to keep the rest of the elves behind, but if the monster is already faster than you, a few turns from netting isn't going to buy much time. And if you're running from a same-speed melee creature and you already have distance, you don't need the net at all.

[Leafsnail]

I can imagine it being useful if the monster is the same speed but has already closed the distance?

Though I guess you shouldn't really let that happen in the first place.

[Dr.Feelgood]

I didn't think the devs were serious about this:

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[DJ]

Yeah. Just 16 dex on a friggin' cat?

[Leafsnail]

Seriously?

I mean... how good are they?

[Frumple]

I mean... how good are they?

They can't use weapons or armor. Any. At all. No, that doesn't mean they can throw things. They can't. I... I'm not really sure what to do with them. Kinda' neat, but... seriously? Rings as the only source of resist (besides gods, I guess)? That's some serious gimpage going down. They're not even good assassins, since stab damage is crap with unarmed attacks. Maybe one of their mutations makes that work differently? I'unno.

Gonna' give it a few runs and see how it goes, I guess.

[Robsoie]

Some felinae races, a bit similar to Tigermen found in Dwarf Fortress, etc.. could have been interesting with their own special abilities, but normal cats that are crippled by only major disadvantages what is the point ?

Instead of wasting code for that, they should improve the current boring races (demigods by example) into something more interesting and fun to play instead of races that are just apparently made as some kind of joke.

[Dr.Feelgood]

Seriously?

I mean... how good are they?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-1885-gb31ae5e character file.



Mr.Scruffy the Ripper (Felid Berserker)  Turns: 26291, Time: 02:02:31



HP  85/85        AC  3     Str 13      Exp: 14/76040 (184), need: 27559

MP  20/20        EV 33     Int 10      God: Trog [*****.]

Gold 1866        SH  0     Dex 19      Spells:  0 memorised, 15 levels left

                                       Lives: 2, deaths: 1



Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +     - Unarmed

Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : .   (armour unavailable)

Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield unavailable)

Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : +   (helmet unavailable)

Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   (cloak unavailable)

Spirit.Shd: .       Stasis     : .   (gloves unavailable)

Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : .   (boots unavailable)

Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   j - amulet of resist corrosion

Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   (no ring)

Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   o - ring of protection from cold



@: quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy

A: fangs 3, see invisible, carnivore 3, speed 1, slow metabolism 2,

AC +3

a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce

Religion





You are on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts.

You worship Trog.

Trog is exalted by your worship.

You are not hungry.



You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 24 of its levels.



You have collected 2095 gold pieces.

You have spent 249 gold pieces at shops.



You made 2369 melee attacks, avg delay 7.13 aut.

You made 4756 steps orthogonally, 674 diagonally.

Autoexploring made 5605 steps orthogonally, 3650 diagonally.



Inventory:



Hand weapons

 p - an uncursed scimitar of flaming {Erica}

 u - an uncursed dagger of distortion (quivered) {Sonja}

Missiles

 M - 7 curare-tipped needles

Armour

 b - an uncursed animal skin {Grum}

 e - an uncursed wizard hat {Gastronok}

Magical devices

 t - a bone wand

Comestibles

 a - 7 meat rations

 K - 19 honeycombs

Scrolls

 f - 11 scrolls of teleportation

 k - a scroll of enchant weapon I

 m - 4 scrolls of fear

 A - a scroll of fog

 E - 2 scrolls of magic mapping

 G - a scroll of holy word

 H - a scroll of remove curse

Jewellery

 j - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck)

 o - a ring of protection from cold (left paw)

 w - an uncursed amulet of clarity

 D - an uncursed copper ring

Potions

 c - 3 potions of healing

 d - a viscous orange potion

 g - a potion of restore abilities

 i - a potion of resistance

 l - a potion of invisibility

 q - a potion of magic

 x - 2 potions of brilliance

 z - 4 potions of levitation

 C - a glowing green potion

Books

 h - a book of Demonology {highlevel}   

   This book is beyond your current level of understanding.

   Spells                             Type                      Level

   Call Imp                           Summoning                    2

   Abjuration                         Summoning                    3

   Recall                             Summoning/Translocation      3

   Summon Demon                       Summoning                    5

   Demonic Horde                      Summoning                    6

   Summon Greater Demon               Summoning                    7

   Malign Gateway                     Summoning/Translocation      7

   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.

 L - a paperback book   

   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.





 You have 184 experience left.



   Skills:

 + Level 10 Fighting

 + Level 13 Dodging

 - Level 4 Stealth

 - Level 3 Stabbing

 + Level 3 Traps & Doors

 + Level 17 Unarmed Combat

 - Level 1 Spellcasting





You have 15 spell levels left.

You don't know any spells.

Cats are easy in the early game. I cleared the mines and lair pretty quickly. They're basically small trolls with a Halfing's metabolism and extra lives. They can't wear anything, except jewelry. And they can't wield anything. Cats are pretty frail. I got killed in one hit while at full health early on. It's pretty funny to watch a house cat kill a hydra.

[Akigagak]

Crawl is up to something.

D:1, and I just found, >200-ish tunrs in, a Randart with no drawbacks, and everything about it directly helps this Deep Elf Wizard.

Res Cold
+2 Int
+3 Dex

EDIT: And, hey, a potion of Int on D:2.

EDITEDIT: Fuck you, crawl. Sigmund + Fuckton of orcs waiting right next to the stairs in D:4

[dragnar]

Crawl is up to something.

D:1, and I just found, >200-ish tunrs in, a Randart with no drawbacks, and everything about it directly helps this Deep Elf Wizard.

Res Cold
+2 Int
+3 Dex

EDIT: And, hey, a potion of Int on D:2.

You are doomed. Ye shall be smote by the RNG any level now.

[Akigagak]

Yea, see last edit.

While you were making that post, I was being dicked over.

I blame you for this.