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[Mr.Person]

Woah.

Is it just me, or do potions of Cure Mutation become extremely common after you've just picked up a good mutation?  And ridiculously rare if you have a bad one (I've gone from D:5 through Snake, Orc, Lair, Swamp and part of Vaults with the same Slow Healing mutation).  Furthermore, the one time you don't upgrade your intelligence early as a TrBe is the one time a degen happens to hit your intelligence for -4.

When you roll the dice 1000 times, even if you only have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll eventually lose.

[ChairmanPoo]

When you roll the dice 1000 times, even if you only have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll eventually lose.

You fail mathematics forever.

[Soadreqm]

When you roll the dice 1000 times, even if you only have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll eventually lose.

You fail mathematics forever.

Nope, he's right. As you roll more, the chance of losing approaches infinity. No way around that. You only have about a 63% chance of losing with a thousand rolls and a 1/1000 chance of losing, though.

[DJ]

So all these people who claim to have escaped with the Orb are a bunch of liars, because Xom will hit you with unavoidable death before that

[Mindmaker]

Huh my first mixed group of yaks and death yaks.
Hmm...

Edit: Nevermind. I got surrounded by orcs while fleeing.

[Moron]

When you roll the dice 1000 times, even if you only have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll eventually lose.

In Dungeon Crawl, if you have a 1 in 1000 chance of losing, you'll lose 9 times out of 10.

Just had the most ridiculously food-scarce game; I did not find one permanent food item even though I got down to level 11, almost nothing that could leave a corpse did, those that did leave corpses were contaminated and made me sick rather than fed me. I spent almost the entire game at starving or near-starving, occasionally getting up to very hungry. Finally died to a troll because when you are starving you cannot cast spells.

[Puck]

Problem:

Your vision is a little blurry.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.

Full dump:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.1-1-g7ce9b19 character file.

Puck the Slicer (Troll Monk)                                        Turns: 8188, Time: 00:31:43

HP  81/81        AC  9     Str 17 (21) Exp: 9/3894 (24), need: 1970
MP   3/3         EV 11     Int  6      God:
Gold 335         SH  0     Dex 13 (15) Spells:  0 memorised,  8 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : .     - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : x . .   Warding    : .   L - +1 robe {rF+}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   d - +2 cloak
Spirit.Shd: .       Stasis     : .   (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : +       Ctrl.Telep.: .   j - amulet of resist mutation
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   M - ring of fire
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .   z - ring of life protection

@: slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, blink 1, blurry vision 1, deterioration 1, fast metabolism 3,
gourmand, regeneration 2, saprovore 2, tough skin 2, AC +1
a: Blink


You are in the Ecumenical Temple.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels.

You have collected 397 gold pieces.
You have spent 62 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 g - an uncursed runed sling
 r - an uncursed quarterstaff of chaos
 v - an uncursed flail of holy wrath
 A - an uncursed bow of reaping
 T - an uncursed dagger of flaming (quivered)
 Y - a +3,+4 sabre of speed
Missiles
 k - 24 runed sling bullets
 m - 10 silver sling bullets
 n - 24 sling bullets
 I - 12 runed sling bullets
Armour
 d - a +2 cloak (worn)
 L - a +1 robe of fire resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a long fluorescent wand
 p - a wand of fire {zapped: 7}
 w - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 1}
 B - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 5}
Comestibles
 b - 3 meat rations
 l - 2 bread rations
 q - a pear
 x - an apple
 G - 12 grapes
 Z - 2 chokos
Scrolls
 a - 8 scrolls of identify
 e - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 h - a scroll of magic mapping
 u - a scroll of blinking
Jewellery
 j - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 z - a ring of life protection (left hand)
 M - a ring of fire (right hand)
Potions
 F - 3 potions of heal wounds


 You have 24 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 5 Fighting
 + Level 8 Short Blades
 - Level 3 Dodging
 - Level 1 Stealth
 - Level 4 Unarmed Combat


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (1/4) D:6
  Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:4: [


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You can eat rotten meat.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).
You can translocate small distances at will.
Your vision is a little blurry.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.


Message History

There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
There is a basalt altar of Yredelemnul here.
There is a burning altar of Makhleb here.
Partly explored, can't reach some places.
Search for what [Enter for "cure", or ? for help]? oka
There is an iron altar of Okawaru here.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Pikel (D:6)
  The ghost of Puck the Insei, an average SEMo (D:4)
  A slave (D:6)
  4 ogres
  A centaur (D:7)
  Sigmund (D:5)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  A giant frog zombie (D:7)
  Blork the orc (D:7)
  A giant frog (D:3)
  An eye of draining (D:7)
  An imp (D:6)
  Dowan (D:4)
  A big kobold skeleton (D:7)
  2 hounds
  An orc priest (D:4)
  A scorpion (D:5)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:4)
  An orc wizard (D:4)
  A hound skeleton (D:5)
  3 giant ants
  Ijyb (D:1)
  Jessica (D:2)
  3 jellies
  64 gnolls
  A snake zombie (D:7)
  4 snakes
  A snake skeleton (D:6)
  2 giant mites
  4 worms
  3 grey rats (D:3)
  A giant bat skeleton (D:6)
  3 giant eyeballs
  3 giant geckos (D:2)
  An ooze (D:4)
  12 giant bats
  12 giant cockroaches
  14 hobgoblins
  5 orcs
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:7)
  2 giant gecko zombies (D:6)
  4 giant newts
  19 goblins
  28 jackals
  14 kobolds
  3 quokkas
  10 rats
  A small snake (D:1)
  5 toadstools (D:6)
249 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A giant frog (D:7)
  A giant bat (D:6)
  A jackal (D:3)
  12 toadstools
15 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 264 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
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     0 | D:1     | Puck, the Troll Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 0/0
   263 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 21/23 MP: 0/0
   291 | D:1     | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
   563 | D:2     | Noticed Ijyb
   579 | D:1     | Defeated Ijyb
   579 | D:1     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 1/1
   984 | D:2     | Noticed Jessica
  1015 | D:2     | Defeated Jessica
  1204 | D:2     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/38 MP: 1/1
  1927 | D:2     | Reached skill 1 in Stealth
  2644 | D:3     | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
  2644 | D:3     | Gained mutation: You can translocate small distances at will.
  2644 | D:3     | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
  2770 | D:3     | Noticed a giant frog
  2795 | D:3     | Defeated a giant frog
  2795 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 47/47 MP: 1/1
  2835 | D:3     | Reached skill 1 in Short Blades
  3019 | D:4     | Found Yngaeczi's Antique Armour Shop.
  3021 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3140 | D:4     | Got a wavering brass ring
  3172 | D:4     | Identified the ring "Taoj" {AC+4 EV-5} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  3427 | D:4     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 35/54 MP: 2/2
  3534 | D:4     | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3548 | D:4     | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
  3635 | D:4     | Noticed Puck's ghost
  3666 | D:4     | Defeated Puck's ghost
  3878 | D:4     | Noticed Dowan
  3880 | D:4     | Noticed Duvessa
  3902 | D:4     | Defeated Duvessa
  3902 | D:4     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/62 MP: 2/2
  3977 | D:4     | Defeated Dowan
  4667 | D:5     | Reached skill 5 in Short Blades
  4843 | D:5     | Noticed Sigmund
  4872 | D:5     | Defeated Sigmund
  5146 | D:4     | Bought a glowing buckler for 62 gold pieces
  5650 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 71/71 MP: 2/2
  5705 | D:6     | Reached skill 6 in Short Blades
  6762 | D:6     | Reached skill 7 in Short Blades
  7152 | D:6     | Noticed Pikel
  7185 | D:6     | Defeated Pikel
  7185 | D:6     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 74/79 MP: 3/3
  7326 | D:6     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7428 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  7432 | Orc:1   | Reached skill 5 in Fighting
  7793 | D:7     | Noticed a giant frog zombie
  7798 | D:7     | Reached skill 8 in Short Blades
  7809 | D:7     | Noticed Blork the orc
  7827 | D:7     | Defeated a giant frog zombie
  7841 | D:7     | Defeated Blork the orc
  8095 | D:7     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  8101 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple

Advice?

[Mindmaker]

Ring of sustain abilities or potion of cure mutation would be gold in your situation.
Otherwise you could quaff a potion of mutation and hope it goes away.

Otherwise sorry, no idea.

[Puck]

oder

Danke, Doktor von Braun

No, seriously, those are the ideas I had.

What about wearing that amulet of "resist mutation"? Does the prevent ALL mutations or only negative ones? Because... I could wear that when drinking moar potions of mutation.

What about a deity? Could I have picked one that helps me getting cured?

edit: also, FUCK YOU crawl. I think ALL the troll monks I played picked up that mutation. surely, that must be coincidence... 

[Soadreqm]

What about wearing that amulet of "resist mutation"? Does the prevent ALL mutations or only negative ones? Because... I could wear that when drinking moar potions of mutation.

What about a deity? Could I have picked one that helps me getting cured?

edit: also, FUCK YOU crawl. I think ALL the troll monks I played picked up that mutation. surely, that must be coincidence... 

Amulets of resist mutation resists all mutation. It'd just be too easy otherwise. As for gods, I think Jiyva and Elyvilon (or was it Zin?) give you the ability to rid yourself of bad mutations at very high piety, but it'll take time for them to start liking you enough. That probably shouldn't be your primary plan.

[Puck]

Well, I put on that amulet and drank another potion, and all I grew antennae... which, at least for a troll, are beneficial... no bad mutations happened.

[Frumple]

It's Zin. Primary way of dealing with mutations is to not get mutations

There's some nice ones, but most ways of getting mutations are heavily biased toward negative ones. Legendary Helix cards and Jiyva are about the only two I remember that don't basically aim to screw you sideways. Every single other source of mutation leans toward negative, though things like the potion or alter self doesn't lean as far as eating a mutative corpse or getting hit by a shining eye or whatever (Hostile mutation effects have pretty much a 100% chance to be negative these days.). You can luck out and get good ones, but... it's not likely, and if you do, the RNG was just merciful. Expect Nikola at D:6

Basically, the only thing that's got a good chance of actually getting non-character-raping mutations are demonspawn

[Mindmaker]

I got to the temple stairs, but they were surrounded by translucent walls.
12th charge in my wand of ramdom effects was dig.

Take that Crawl!

[Leafsnail]

Actually, Zin has a one off "Cure all mutations" while Jiyva has a reusable "Cure bad mutations".

Haven't actually ever made a serious attempt to play with Jiyva.  I could have go at it with a troll (since they barely need items and can basically carry their stash anyway).

[Virroken]

I got to the temple stairs, but they were surrounded by translucent walls.
12th charge in my wand of ramdom effects was dig.

Take that Crawl!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there's always a secret door.