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[DJ]

Wait, didn't they change it so you can only extend spells you have memorized?

[Mr.Person]

Wait, didn't they change it so you can only extend spells you have memorized?

I thought that was just in Trunk.

[Dr.Feelgood]

Darned. I found myself back at playing DCSS after a long while, all because of this thread.  It seems like it has become significantly harder since I last played (maybe 0.4 or so). All statistical proof claimed that SpEn is the easiest class in 0.7.1, and after about a hundred tries I seem to be getting further into the caves with them...

This is my best run by far. First time grabbing a rune, now sitting at D:27 and considering how to get two more runes and finally the Orb. Well, D:26 if we'd like to be more accurate, but downstairs is cleaned. Got the rune from Shoals, which was a ridiculously easy conquest with the Invisibility and Flight spells. No one could resist Ensorcelled Hibernation down there either. Victory danced Spellcasting pretty consistently when I didn't have any other idea, even dumped a couple Exp cards into it. Traps & Doors is also another 'new' skill for me, having always neglected it. It works wonders.

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Your character is powerful enough to win. Even at level 16, spriggans have it easy in Zot. You can easily stab everything on floors 1-4 and teleport randomly on the 5th floor to grab the Orb. Don't bother grinding for Necromutation, unless you're going for all the runes. You're nowhere near close to casting it (you need a few more levels in necromancy and about 15-16 levels in transmutation).

Suggestions:

- Learn Deflect Missiles, Extension, and Alistair's Intoxication.
- Get rid of Silence, Airstrike, and Metabolic Englaciation.

Wait, didn't they change it so you can only extend spells you have memorized?

I thought that was just in Trunk.

Extension was nerfed in 0.7. You can no longer extend spells that you don't already know or cast well.

[Leafsnail]

Dunno if there's a second end vault with elephant statues, but beware killing the anaconda if it's the one I'm thinking about. That's one hell of a nasty trick they pulled with that one, if you've not got solid escape methods. Sounds like you got something with hydras involved, though.

The spriggan stalker I've been running off and on the last few days has been embarrassing hydras by killing them entirely via magic dart. Poor things are kinda' non-issues versus spriggan movement speed.

Well, I went one way, and murdered 4 elephants using invisibility and hibernation.  Then I went the other, found a secret door, killed the anaconda and... dire elephants everywhere.  Didn't matter, though - invisibility let me escape, come back and kill them all.  Even if, as I was running out, I saw an elephant with no ! by it.  I thought it was a see invisible elephant... turned out to be one of those blasted statues .

The way I died was very annoying.  Saint Roka shouldn't be able to smite what he can't see.

[huhu]

Thanks for the tips. Cleaning Elf and especially Hall of Blades was nice, then went to Snake:5. I did a total YASD on a Greater Naga, argh. Killed one and tried to take out another without going to lick my wounds.

habi the Enchanter (L25 SpEn), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, blasted by a greater naga (poison arrow) on Snake:5, with 420879 points after 116595 turns

[Akigagak]

Invisibility is worthless. For the player. All the times I've ever used it monsters have somehow been able to follow right behind me as I run away. Even if I run in circles, or zig-zags, they always stay right next me.

[Leafsnail]

Invisibility is worthless. For the player. All the times I've ever used it monsters have somehow been able to follow right behind me as I run away. Even if I run in circles, or zig-zags, they always stay right next me.

It's not as good as you'd think for escaping, but it's great for fighting monsters you can't send to sleep.  You get a tier-2 stab every turn, and they miss most of their attacks.

It also seemed to work for preventing the two hydras I faced from both fighting me at the same time.

Also - am I right in thinking that, if you run into a group of something and then go somewhere else, the group sortof disperses?

[Dr.Feelgood]

@huhu

I either lure the nagas away from the rune and then teleport back to it or I abuse summoning decks to clear Snake:5. 2-3 ornate decks are enough to wipe out all the nagas on that floor.

Invisibility is worthless. For the player. All the times I've ever used it monsters have somehow been able to follow right behind me as I run away. Even if I run in circles, or zig-zags, they always stay right next me.

That is not true. The reason monsters still follow you around is probably because they can hear you. Either you aren't stealthy enough or you're wearing heavy armor. I've cleared entire branches with invisibility and the monsters either wandered around aimlessly or they only knew my general location.

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Also - am I right in thinking that, if you run into a group of something and then go somewhere else, the group sortof disperses?

Monsters are curious and will patrol the area looking for whatever caused a commotion. They don't automatically return to their group.

[Robsoie]

Monsters can guess your position when you are invisible if they knew your position before and you are still within two spaces, if you are in water, or if they are adjacent to you and make a roll based on their intelligence (usually 1 chance in 3; slightly higher if they are smarter.)

So unless you're lucky (and in Crawl luck when i really need it is never something i experience personnally) monsters that have noticed you before you casted invisibility will "guess" where you are even if they don't see you.
Trying to escapie a too strong unique that is close to you by turning invisible is then nearly impossible considering they are intelligent, and being within 2 spaces their "guess" is even better.

Additionally, staying invisible will lead into you glowing, meaning that monsters will then see you, defeating the invisibility purpose, and glowing makes you even easier to hit as it is apparently equivalent to getting a corona spell on you.

Unfortunately neither the wiki or the bot mention how much turn it takes to glow.

[Leafsnail]

Eh, the tier 2 stab still massively increases your damage output.  It's not meant to make you escape notice, but it makes you a lot harder to hit, so it might be best to use before a monster notices you.

[Moron]

Ouch - just ran into the 27-headed Lernaean Hydra on level 5 of the Swamp.

I tried to lead it away then run past it to get into the vault by using potions of speed, but it caught up with me before I could find the rune and I had to teleport away to escape.

I guess I'll go and try somewhere else (elven halls maybe?) and go back to the swamp when I'm more powerful...

[beorn080]

I have a question. If I'm wearing an artifact robe that, while cursed, give +3 str and +3 Ev, while having a -2 to damage, does that -2 to damage include all damage including magic, or merely physical damage? Spriggan Wanderer if you were interested.

Edit: Spriggan Wanderer is doing extremely well. At least until I hit one of those massive octagonal rooms and burned half my expendables trying to take out a few orc priests, wizards, a swamp drake, and an imp with a wand of draining. Been doing great so far though, worshipping Nemelex, building evocations with a staff of channeling, and generally doing extremely well. That drake is a pain in the neck, so's the imp.

[Robsoie]

Eh, the tier 2 stab still massively increases your damage output.  It's not meant to make you escape notice, but it makes you a lot harder to hit, so it might be best to use before a monster notices you.

Additionally, i you don't have a see invisible way, it does not only make you a bit harder to hit (-35 % to hit for the monster attacking you), but give you a -5 malus to hit.
And after some turns being invisible (no idea how much), your magic contamination will have increased, making you glow. Meaning the monsters will hit you more easily.

So all in all, invisibility may not be helpfull if your character does not have some good bonus to hit to start with.
Fortunately the very good point of that fake "invisibility" (sometime i wish it was the same as the monster invisibility when i need to escape) is that tier 2 stabbing, if you have a good stabbing skill level you can benefit a lot from that, while at lower stabbing level it is not that great.

And remember, most dangerous monsters and unique can actually see invisible.

[Taxus]

Apparently Dowan has special dialogue if you send his sister to the Abyss...

_Dowan says, "I will find her! I will get her back!"
 Dowan screams as he is devoured by a tear in reality.

[beorn080]

Nifty. I can't imagine THAT scenario coming up all that often early on, but it is amazing what they think of.

In other news, the best so far, with a Spriggan Wanderer

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.1-1-g7ce9b19 character file.

Steve the Thaumaturge (Spriggan Wanderer)                          Turns: 32718, Time: 05:01:20

HP  58/58        AC  9     Str 12      Exp: 13/43604 (4), need: 19445
MP  13/31        EV 27     Int 20      God: Nemelex Xobeh [****..]
Gold 1005        SH  2     Dex 16      Spells: 10 memorised, 10 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : +   y - staff of fire
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   c - +0 robe of Liberty {EV+3 Str+3 Dam-2}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   H - +2 wizard hat
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   b - +2 cloak
Spirit.Shd: .       Stasis     : .   (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   x - amulet of the gourmand
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   q - ring of sustenance
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .   X - +3 ring of intelligence

@: very slightly glowing, very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: unfitting armour, horns 1, see invisible, deformed body 1, herbivore 3, speed 3, -10% mp,
+10% hp, slow metabolism 3, AC +3, EV +2, SH +2
a: Draw One, Peek at Two, Triple Draw, Mark Four, Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball


You are on level 2 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels.

You have collected 1113 gold pieces.
You have spent 158 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 T - a +1 blowgun
Missiles
 a - 7 elven needles of sickness
 L - 2 poisoned +0 elven needles
 P - 34 poisoned +0 needles
 V - 7 curare-tipped needles
Armour
 b - a +2 cloak (worn)
 c - the +0 robe of Liberty (worn) {EV+3 Str+3 Dam-2}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (-2).
 H - a +2 wizard hat (worn)
Magical devices
 r - a wand of digging (9)
 U - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 5}
 W - a wand of disintegration (1)
 Z - a wand of polymorph other {zapped: 4}
Comestibles
 h - 4 pears
 m - 9 sultanas
 o - 3 bread rations
 w - 28 grapes
 B - an apple
 K - 11 strawberries
Scrolls
 f - a scroll of fog
 l - a scroll of teleportation
 z - a scroll of detect curse
 I - a scroll of blinking
 J - a scroll of enchant weapon I
 Y - 7 scrolls of remove curse
Jewellery
 q - a ring of sustenance (right hand)
 s - a +6 ring of dexterity
 t - a +5 ring of strength
 u - a +5 ring of evasion
 x - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 A - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 C - the ring "Sethrewa" {rF- MR Str+3 Int-1}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (-1).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
 D - an uncursed ring of magical power
 E - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 O - an uncursed ring of levitation
 X - a +3 ring of intelligence (left hand)
Potions
 d - a potion of porridge
 e - a potion of invisibility
 i - a potion of restore abilities
 n - a potion of might
 G - a potion of agility
 Q - a potion of speed
 S - 2 potions of healing
Magical staves
 y - a staff of fire (weapon)
 N - a staff of channeling
Miscellaneous
 g - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 7} {god gift}
 j - a plain deck of cards {god gift}
 k - a small ebony casket
 p - a plain deck of escape {drawn: 1} {god gift}
 v - an ornate deck of cards {god gift}
 F - an ornate deck of cards {drawn: 1}
 M - a plain deck of summonings {drawn: 9} {god gift}
 R - a plain deck of cards {god gift}


 You have 4 experience left.

   Skills:
 - Level 1 Staves
 - Level 6 Slings
 - Level 6 Throwing
 + Level 7 Dodging
 - Level 3 Stealth
 - Level 1 Shields
 - Level 2 Traps & Doors
 + Level 13 Spellcasting
 - Level 11 Conjurations
 - Level 3 Enchantments
 - Level 2 Translocations
 - Level 9 Fire Magic
 - Level 1 Ice Magic
 - Level 1 Air Magic
 - Level 2 Poison Magic
 + Level 12 Evocations


You have 10 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power          Success   Level
a - Magic Dart            Conj           #####          Excellent   1
b - Throw Flame           Fire/Conj      #######        Excellent   2
c - Conjure Flame         Fire/Conj      #######..      Excellent   3
d - Mephitic Cloud        Pois/Air/Conj  #####.....     Excellent   3
e - Blink                 Tloc           N/A            Excellent   2
f - Bolt of Magma         Fire/Erth/Conj #######...     Very Good   5
h - Summon Small Mammals  Summ           ###..          Great       1
i - Repel Missiles        Air/Ench       ####......     Excellent   2
j - Levitation            Air/Ench       ####......     Excellent   2
O - Delayed Fireball      Fire/Conj      N/A            Very Poor   7


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (13/27)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (2/4) D:9
   Lair (5/8) D:13          Swamp (1/5) Lair:3        Snake (1/5) Lair:3
   Hive (0/2) D:13       

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:4: ?  D:5: [  Orc:1: [

Annotations
D:11 exclusion: 18 flame clouds


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
You have a pair of small horns on your head.
You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2).
Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
You are robust (+10% HP).
You are covered in fur (AC +1).


Message History

You climb downwards.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You continue eating.
You finish eating. Mmmm... Yummy pear..
Welcome back, Steve the Spriggan Wanderer.
Nemelex Xobeh says: It's all in the cards!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Agnes (D:13)
  Harold (D:13)
  2 hydras
  A vapour (Lair:3)
  An unseen horror (D:13)
  4 hill giants
  A red wasp (D:12)
  A cyclops (D:12)
  A dancing weapon (Lair:4)
  A black mamba (Snake:1)
  A spiny frog (Lair:4)
  A giant toad zombie (D:13)
  4 trolls
  11 ugly things
  A komodo dragon (Lair:1)
  An ettin (D:12)
  3 giant toads
  4 bumblebees
  6 blink frogs
  A wraith (D:12)
  2 wyverns (D:13)
  5 hippogriffs
  A giant blowfly (D:13)
  Grum (D:10)
  A fire drake (Lair:4)
  2 giant blowfly zombies (D:12)
  A steam dragon (D:13)
  11 yaks
  8 war dogs
  2 mottled dragons (D:13)
  A molten gargoyle (D:11)
  A rock worm (D:13)
  A manticore (D:9)
  2 ice beasts
  A black bear (Lair:3)
  10 ogres
  Duvessa (D:
  A yak zombie (D:13)
  10 orc warriors
  A swamp drake (D:9)
  A phantom (D:
  3 centaurs
  8 crocodiles
  10 giant frogs
  2 giant slugs (Lair:2)
  3 water moccasins
  2 wargs (D:13)
  7 big kobolds
  2 giant snails
  2 eyes of draining
  2 wights (D:11)
  4 killer bees (D:11)
  A brain worm zombie (D:10)
  An electric eel (D:13)
  A big kobold zombie (D:12)
  9 imps
  A lava snake (D:11)
  Dowan (D:
  2 big kobold skeletons
  3 gila monster skeletons
  A hound zombie (D:9)
  A quasit (D:
  3 giant beetles
  7 orc priests
  11 hounds
  Crazy Yiuf (D:2)
  7 giant ants
  20 orc wizards
  5 scorpions
  A giant ant zombie (D:9)
  5 iguanas
  Ijyb (D:7)
  Jessica (D:3)
  3 jellies
  2 mummies
  9 gnolls
  20 green rats
  A giant centipede (D:13)
  15 snakes
  2 giant mites (D:6)
  A snake zombie (D:7)
  A snake skeleton (D:6)
  6 worms
  78 grey rats
  A giant eyeball (D:9)
  9 giant geckos
  3 giant cockroaches
  11 goblins
  21 hobgoblins
  23 jackals
  33 kobolds
  69 orcs
  28 giant bats
  8 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  An orc skeleton (D:6)
  13 quokkas
  20 rats
  2 small snakes (D:6)
  7 ballistomycetes
  A fungus (Lair:1)
  4 plants
  7 toadstools
640 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A dancing weapon (D:9)
  A spiny frog (Lair:4)
  3 ugly things
  3 blink frogs
  15 yaks
  A war dog (Lair:3)
  2 insubstantial wisps (Lair:3)
  2 centaurs (D:10)
  A gila monster (Lair:3)
  2 giant slugs
  A boring beetle (Lair:3)
  A big kobold (D:11)
  2 giant snails
  A water moccasin (Lair:3)
  An imp (D:11)
  An iguana (D:5)
  2 orc priests
  2 hounds (Lair:4)
  An orc wizard (D:13)
  6 sheep (Lair:3)
  A giant centipede (Lair:2)
  2 gnolls
  A snake (Lair:4)
  2 green rats (Lair:1)
  A shadow imp (Lair:5)
  A giant mite (Lair:3)
  A worm (D:7)
  21 grey rats
  A giant bat (D:6)
  A goblin (Orc:2)
  A jackal (D:4)
  7 orcs
  A kobold (D:11)
  A fungus (Lair:3)
91 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 dancing weapons
  2 ugly things
  2 yaks (D:11)
  2 war dogs (Lair:3)
  A soldier ant (Lair:3)
  A giant frog zombie (Lair:5)
  A small abomination (D:10)
  2 hounds (Lair:4)
  2 orc priests
  An iron imp (D:11)
  An iguana (Lair:5)
  A lemure (Lair:3)
  A midge (D:12)
  3 green rats (Lair:4)
  A grey rat (Lair:1)
  8 giant bats
  A jackal (D:7)
  2 kobolds
  4 orcs
  A giant newt (D:3)
  A grey rat zombie (Lair:2)
  10 rats
  A ballistomycete (D:10)
  5 fungi
  3 plants (Lair:3)
  31 toadstools
90 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 821 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
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     0 | D:1     | Steve, the Spriggan Wanderer, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 5/5
     2 | D:1     | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart
   437 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 8/12 MP: 1/8
   450 | D:1     | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame
  1036 | D:1     | Reached skill 1 in Conjurations
  1122 | D:1     | Reached skill 1 in Stealth
  1682 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 15/17 MP: 1/11
  1687 | D:2     | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  1691 | D:2     | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  1812 | D:2     | Reached skill 6 in Spellcasting
  1891 | D:2     | Reached skill 1 in Dodging
  1969 | D:2     | Reached skill 1 in Slings
  2137 | D:2     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 20/20 MP: 2/16
  2296 | D:2     | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  2308 | D:2     | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
  3038 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/24 MP: 5/18
  3270 | D:3     | Noticed Jessica
  3474 | D:3     | Reached skill 7 in Spellcasting
  3662 | D:3     | Defeated Jessica
  3691 | D:3     | Reached skill 1 in Traps & Doors
  4198 | D:4     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/28 MP: 11/21
  4202 | D:4     | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  4649 | D:4     | Reached skill 8 in Spellcasting
  4906 | D:4     | Found Qano Cog's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
  4917 | D:4     | Bought a scroll of curse armour for 1 gold piece
  4917 | D:4     | Bought a scroll of curse weapon for 1 gold piece
  5457 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5666 | D:5     | Found Fihal's Antique Armour Boutique.
  5675 | D:5     | Bought a shimmering robe for 136 gold pieces
  5682 | D:5     | Identified the cursed +0 robe of Liberty (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  5728 | D:5     | Got an encrusted leather armour
  5815 | D:5     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 32/32 MP: 21/24
  6195 | D:5     | Reached skill 9 in Spellcasting
  6333 | D:5     | Reached skill 5 in Conjurations
  6725 | D:6     | Noticed a big kobold
  6725 | D:6     | Noticed a big kobold
  6734 | D:6     | Noticed a big kobold
  7123 | D:6     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7153 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/35 MP: 3/27
  7216 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7310 | Temple  | Became a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh
  7347 | D:6     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  7350 | D:6     | Noticed a boring beetle
  7631 | D:6     | Noticed a big kobold
  7641 | D:6     | Defeated a big kobold
  7842 | D:6     | Noticed a big kobold
  7868 | D:6     | Defeated a big kobold
  7877 | D:6     | Defeated a big kobold
  7899 | D:6     | Defeated a big kobold
  8007 | D:6     | Defeated a big kobold
  8037 | D:6     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  8186 | D:6     | Noticed a big kobold
  8194 | D:6     | Defeated a big kobold
  8775 | D:7     | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's first power
  8805 | D:7     | Noticed Ijyb
  8833 | D:7     | Defeated Ijyb
  9118 | D:7     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 40/40 MP: 2/28
  9229 | D:7     | Got a wavering turquoise ring
  9303 | D:7     | Got a twisted quarterstaff
  9304 | D:7     | Identified the cursed quarterstaff of Resourcefulness {flame, Int+1} (You took it off an imp on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  9490 | D:4     | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces
  9491 | D:4     | Identified the ring "Sethrewa" {Str+3 Int-1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
 10061 | D:7     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10142 | D:7     | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 10153 | D:7     | Defeated a purple ugly thing
 10771 | D:8     | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's second power
 10982 | D:8     | Noticed Dowan
 10987 | D:8     | Noticed Duvessa
 10991 | D:8     | Defeated Dowan
 11012 | D:8     | Defeated Duvessa
 11468 | D:9     | Reached skill 5 in Evocations
 11760 | D:9     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 11819 | D:9     | Reached skill 1 in Poison Magic
 11824 | D:9     | Reached skill 1 in Throwing
 11851 | D:9     | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head.
 11851 | D:9     | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
 11851 | D:9     | Gained mutation: You are covered in fur (AC +1).
 11971 | D:9     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12042 | D:9     | Gained mutation: You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
 12042 | D:9     | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
 12160 | D:9     | Reached skill 10 in Spellcasting
 12163 | D:9     | Reached skill 5 in Slings
 12314 | D:9     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 12400 | D:9     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 42/42 MP: 12/26
 12440 | D:9     | Reached skill 1 in Fire Magic
 13076 | D:10    | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 13210 | D:10    | Noticed Grum
 13244 | D:10    | Defeated Grum
 13309 | D:10    | Reached skill 5 in Throwing
 13612 | D:10    | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 13644 | D:10    | Reached skill 1 in Air Magic
 13770 | D:10    | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's third power
 14854 | D:10    | Reached skill 1 in Staves
 15412 | D:11    | Reached XP level 11. HP: 46/46 MP: 11/27
 16049 | D:11    | Reached skill 5 in Dodging
 16094 | D:11    | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 16203 | D:11    | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Magma
 16371 | D:11    | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 17193 | D:12    | Reached skill 5 in Fire Magic
 17662 | D:12    | Reached skill 10 in Conjurations
 17662 | D:12    | Reached skill 11 in Spellcasting
 17775 | D:12    | A manticore changed into a red wasp
 17816 | D:12    | Defeated a red wasp
 19441 | D:13    | Noticed Harold
 19629 | D:13    | Defeated Harold
 20010 | D:13    | Reached skill 10 in Evocations
 20254 | D:13    | Noticed a giant snail
 20256 | D:13    | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 20272 | D:13    | Defeated a giant snail
 20304 | D:13    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 47/50 MP: 4/28
 20725 | D:12    | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 21654 | D:13    | Noticed Agnes
 21858 | D:13    | Defeated Agnes
 22083 | D:13    | Reached skill 12 in Spellcasting
 22098 | D:13    | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 23263 | Lair:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 23964 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball
 24117 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Small Mammals
 24992 | Lair:1  | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's fourth power
 25018 | Lair:2  | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 25067 | Lair:2  | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 25397 | Lair:2  | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 25400 | Lair:2  | Learned a level 2 spell: Levitation
 25412 | Lair:2  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 26213 | Lair:3  | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 26235 | Lair:3  | Reached skill 13 in Spellcasting
 26785 | Lair:3  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 26893 | Lair:3  | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 26942 | Lair:3  | Noticed a bumblebee
 26942 | Lair:3  | Noticed a bumblebee
 26973 | Lair:3  | Defeated a bumblebee
 27044 | Lair:3  | Defeated a bumblebee
 27453 | Lair:3  | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 27807 | Lair:2  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 28356 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 28818 | Lair:4  | Reached XP level 13. HP: 40/52 MP: 8/31
 30353 | Lair:5  | Noticed a bumblebee
 30353 | Lair:5  | Noticed a bumblebee
 30364 | Lair:5  | Defeated a bumblebee
 30372 | Lair:5  | Defeated a bumblebee
 30501 | Lair:5  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 31111 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 31112 | Swamp:1 | Noticed Snorg
 31580 | Lair:3  | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2).
 31580 | Lair:3  | Gained mutation: You are robust (+10% HP).
 32182 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 32182 | Orc:1   | Found Ytontait's Antique Armour Boutique.
 32495 | Orc:2   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 32587 | Orc:1   | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.

What should I do? I'm working my way down Orc, but I'd be surprised if I get to Elf even. The Lair is pretty much locked down, with Snorg guarding the Swamp downstairs, a large cluster of naga on the snake stairs, and 3 spiny frogs next to the stairs of the next Lair level, since the blessed Random Number God decided place all three stairs next to each other.

I'm debating Hive, but I suspect the lack of Poison resist would quickly do me in. Is the only thing left to keep diving the main dungeon? How hard will that get?