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[zchris13]

They can walk, you know.  The dungeon has a life of its own.

[Mr.Person]

I've died from running too late and from running too soon. Nothing's more frustrating then running into shit that's more dangerous than what you were fleeing from in the first place.

[Frumple]

They can walk, you know.  The dungeon has a life of its own.

Oh aye, but when you genocide a level and take a few more laps around it to to make sure everything's dead, then head toward the stairs down and get 'Fwooshed', they're either coming in from other levels, through the walls, or out of thin air. The last amuses me more
Of course, critter movement is more of an issue before you clean house, but there's definitely some generation going on from time to time.

But yeah. Moral of the story: Running's only a good idea when you can't kill it (or doing so would cause bigger problems later, such as needing to burn resources to kill it), because if it's dead, it's not going to jump you in the alley when you're running from something even more dangerous. Something like that, anyway.

Corollary moral: If it doesn't resist confusion (or poison, I guess), mephetic cloud will kill it or enable you to kill it. I still haven't found any exceptions to that rule (but if there are some, someone please warn me before I run into it). Even though I hope to whatever's listening they devs don't nerf that spell, I can't but help think it's overpowered for its level, to an extent. It's ridiculously useful for the first dozen or so dungeon levels, to the point of making them almost trivial...

[quinnr]

..
sorry, but what's the setting for non-# walls?
I just cannot get used to them

[zchris13]

I've seen a hobgoblin come down the stairs on D:1 before.

[quinnr]

Less spell levels in 0.6?
Craaapppp.

[Frumple]

..
sorry, but what's the setting for non-# walls?
I just cannot get used to them

I'm not sure myself, but the options guide file suggests this (I think):

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cset_XXX = <dungeon_character_name : symbol>
        a list of these is allowed, as well.

        The possible entries for dungeon_character_name are:
           wall, wall_magic, floor, floor_magic, door_open, door_closed,
           trap, stairs_down, stairs_up, altar, arch, fountain, wavy,
           statue, invis_exposed, item_detected, item_orb, item_weapon,
           item_armour, item_wand, item_food, item_scroll, item_ring,
           item_potion, item_missile, item_book, item_stave,
           item_miscellany, item_corpse, item_gold, item_amulet, cloud,
           trees
        Most of these are self-explanatory. "arch" is used for shops and
        portals.  "floor_magic" and "wall_magic" are used to display
        magic-mapped squares on the level map. "invis_exposed" is the
        character for water creatures submerged in shallow water, or
        invisible creatures wading in shallow water.

        Symbols can be specified using a letter, or by a number (decimal
        code), or a hexadecimal number (prefixed with x):

        For an example on IBM displays,
             cset_ibm = wall:219, arch:0, wavy:x7E
        shows walls as solid blocks, shops and portals as '0', and water
        as '~'.

More than what it says, I can't help yeh. It's beyond me, heh.

[Mr.Person]

Monsters generate and can "come down stairs". Even branch stairs, so don't put your stash on the same floor as the Slime stairs!

Mephitic Cloud's been nerfed in that high-HD monsters are much, much harder to confuse and break out of confusion much faster.

[zchris13]

Yes, the elephants came out of confusion extremely quickly.

[quinnr]

char_set = IBM
and some putty settings.

[Leafsnail]

Lair :2 is generally best to start off with, since it won't get slimed/ picked up by merfolk.

[Dakk]

Meanwhile...



KOBOLDS, KOBOLDS EVERYWHERE.

[ChairmanPoo]

-z
-d (mephitic cloud)

problem solved

[Kagus]

Damn...  Super Orc Jesus, you shall be missed.  I shall fondly remember the time when Bogric turned to you and said,

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Your orc says, "Super Orc Jesus, you are my only friend"
Tried out a ghoul ice elementalist.  Worked out fairly well, actually.  I wasn't alive long, but I was ripping it up through the first couple levels with hardly a spot of trouble.

Then I ran into Crazy Yiuf and got cocky.  First whack was paralysis, second hit was electrocution.  Bzzap.


Now I need to find another oddball combination...

[ChairmanPoo]

Damn...  Super Orc Jesus, you shall be missed.  I shall fondly remember the time when Bogric turned to you and said,

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Your orc says, "Super Orc Jesus, you are my only friend".

ROTFLMAO