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Author Topic: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.  (Read 1683766 times)

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3000 on: July 14, 2010, 07:10:17 pm »

50 Daevas can hack their way through to the test spawner and surround it, and keep smiting so, theoretically, it'd be beaten (can't be bothered to wait that long though).
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3001 on: July 14, 2010, 10:04:09 pm »

The main problem  i can see is that most of the monsters that can summon usually go nearly to contact before summoning some help.
So they begin to punch the royal jelly, get splashed by lots of acid, and get attacked and splashed by even more jellies that spawned next to them from the royal jelly blood.

If those summoned their helpers out of the way from the jelly, like they do usually when facing the player in the dungeon, maybe the royal jelly would have a harder time staying alive, and the opponent a better chance of surviving without being close to all that acid splashing everywhere.

I setup 3 pandemonium lords vs 1 royal jelly
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3 pandemonium lord v the royal jelly1st match, the 3 pandemonium lords came to contact and summoned mostly ... butterflies.
result : 3 pandemonium lords dead and the royal jelly laughing at how ridiculous those demonlords were with only minor wounds.

2nd match, the 3 demonlords came again to contact, but this time summoned a few demons and lot of hellfire. The royal jelly retreated very close to death, while the demons and their lords were annhilated by the dozen of jellies surrounding them and splashing everything.
result : 3 pandemonium lords dead.

3rd match, it began better for the 3 demon lords that launched some big ice storm, one of them went in contact to the royal jelly, 2 other stayed back and began to summon horde. unfortunately again the acid blobs and azure jellies covered the retreat of the royal jelly that was again close to death, and acid splashed every demons and their lords to death.
result : 3 pandemonium lords dead.

4th match, the 3 demon lords stayed away for once and began to summon, while the royal jelly was running to them as quick as it could. Once battle occured, the death ooze, acid blobs and azure jellies laughed at all those demons, and allowed the royal jelly badly damaged to retreat away while they killed by acid every demonlords and their summons.
result : 3 pandemonium lords dead.

5th and last match, the 3 demons lords stupidly ran into contact of the royal jelly. They were quickly melted by acid from all those superior azure jellies and acid blob that made short work of their summon in the same time. Again they allowed the azure jelly to retreat.
result : 3 pandemonium lords dead.

hmm, then i inverted, instead of
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3 pandemonium lord v the royal jellyi typed
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the royal jelly v 3 pandemonium lordto see if the order of the teams would make a difference
1st match, the 3 demon lords moved a bit, while the royal jelly stayed away, a demon lord blasted the royal jelly a lot with ice storm, while the other were summoning.
This time the azure jellies could not help, overwhelmed by the repeated ice storm that even killed the royal jelly , the azure and ice jellies were killed with no demon lords dead.

2nd match, the classic 3 pandemonium lords rush to the royal jelly, that does the same in its way, with the result of the 3 demon lords and the few summons killed by the overwhelming amount of azure jellies.
 
final match, very close this one, a pandemonium lord rushed but was killed quickly while his 2 brothers were "calling the power of hell" that apparently got a huge hit on the bunch of azure jallies and acid blob . The royal jelly had to retreat being near death, but one of the 2 remaining pandemonium lord decided to attack in hand to hand the azure jellies, and despite they were all very wounded, he was melted as usual.
The last demon lords thanks to his summon managed to kill many jellies, but after a while there were even more of them full health, he could only fall, during this time the royal jelly was in the opposite corner of the map, looking at the battle from its safe place.

Conclusion : yeah, the royal jelly was such an easy monster to kill that it was then very needed to make every walls to splash acid in Slime...
« Last Edit: July 14, 2010, 10:09:14 pm by Robsoie »
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3002 on: July 15, 2010, 04:52:26 am »

I just have a small question:What book lets you raise the dead?And I am playing as a Demonspawn Death Knight,should I pick Kiku as my god or the other god of death?(yredramal or something)
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« Reply #3003 on: July 15, 2010, 05:04:45 am »

I believe Undeath and Necromancy have spells to raise the dead. The Necronomicon might have Twisted Ressurection in in, but I don't think you care about that :D

Demonspawn can take either one and be ok. Try them both. They've both got advantages and disadvantages.
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« Reply #3004 on: July 15, 2010, 05:21:53 am »

Always wondered if Sigmund was stonger than his brother, just type
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Sigmund v EdmundI made 5 battles, Edmund won 4 times, Sigmund only once.


Lol, I never would've guessed that. Every time I run into Sigmund, he seems to blast one of my characters into dust half the time as I try to get away. Edmund's only killed like 2-3 of my characters.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3005 on: July 15, 2010, 05:28:56 am »

Unique mobs like Sigmund... they aren't always exactly the same, are they? At least from their drops I would guess their equipment is somewhat randomized (or am I comparing drops from different versions?).

Another thing.. am I hallucinating or aren't starting stats not randomized anymore? Which I think is a good idea, because seriously, what the fuck was up with that :D

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3006 on: July 15, 2010, 06:10:55 am »

Edmund is stronger, I guess, but
- He tends to appear later
- He doesn't have the horrible spells that disable your ability to fight back (confusion, invisibility)

Yeah, equipment is randomized.  As are the wands they are carrying (Sigmund with a wand of draining... ugh).
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« Reply #3007 on: July 15, 2010, 06:14:09 am »

what about the arena? are arena results even useful with randomized equipment?

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« Reply #3008 on: July 15, 2010, 06:22:18 am »

Well, since Agnes just banished The Royal Jelly using a distortion brand, I'm gonna say no.
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« Reply #3009 on: July 15, 2010, 11:09:06 am »

Somebody HAS to put Sigmund and Edmund in the arena,the Royal Jelly can eat the survivors
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3010 on: July 15, 2010, 11:16:23 am »

Glowing Shapeshifter v Glowing Shapeshifter is generally quite a funny fight.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3011 on: July 16, 2010, 12:38:14 am »

Arena mode's pretty interesting, yeah. Not quite on par with DF's, but...

Anyway, my latest experiment, on th'dreaded Sigmund and mighty Royal Jelly.

Ten rounds

The contestants: 99 Sigmunds versus The Royal Jelly

Results:
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Special Second Set:

Five Rounds, 50 Sigmund vs 49 Edmund vs THE ROYAL JELLY
It seems you can't have a three way fight. I am disappoint.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3012 on: July 16, 2010, 03:00:50 am »

You know, maybe they should give the slime pit acid FLOORS, too. And every turn, there is a random chance that you sink into the acid goop and instantly die. And every time the Royal Jelly dies, a random jelly on the level should be promoted to Royal Jelly. To win, you have to kill every single one of them at the same time.
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« Reply #3013 on: July 16, 2010, 03:36:51 am »

You know, maybe they should give the slime pit acid FLOORS, too. And every turn, there is a random chance that you sink into the acid goop and instantly die. And every time the Royal Jelly dies, a random jelly on the level should be promoted to Royal Jelly. To win, you have to kill every single one of them at the same time.

Why not just make the floors royal jellies? Every tile is a royal jelly and you become overloaded by their slime and cant go back up the stairs.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #3014 on: July 16, 2010, 03:42:22 am »

It would be an interesting experiment in multi-tile creatures. The whole level is covered in the Royal Jelly. And if a segment is separated, it becomes a second Royal Jelly. And it should follow you up and down stairs. And hunt you around the dungeon, even if you never set foot into the Slime Pit.

Or maybe you should have to race the Royal Jelly down to the orb. If the Jelly gets there before you, it eats it.
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