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Author Topic: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.  (Read 1684565 times)

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2655 on: June 29, 2010, 07:33:07 am »
Quote from: Mr.Person on June 28, 2010, 03:10:13 pm
Quote from: DJ on June 28, 2010, 05:03:08 am
Not to mention that fast monsters can kill you before they burn to death.

Doesn't actually happen very often, oddly. Spiny Frogs are about the only Lair danger capable of moving that fast with that many hitpoints. Even if you don't have a great spell to kill them, just Sticky Flame and run. Try and get as many turns of burning as you can. It'll be half dead by the time it catches up to you, making it easy prey for whatever other spells and wands you've got. And seriously, if you can't take a few hits, a few levels of Fighting skill isn't going to help. If you're trying to do a "don't get hit" wizard, Fighting skill is the last thing you need.

I'm a sticky Flame fan as well... It's just that many of my builds aren't focused on fire, and confused enemies are literally 'XP dumpsters'. I like my Transmuters and Venom Mages. I think the big thing to remember is that if you're primarily a caster, especially ice / fire / venom / (to a lesser extent) Transmuter plan on picking up a fallback school of magic. A player shouldn't be too picky about which fallback school, and unless you're planning a 'focus shift' you shouldn't over invest in it, but having to burn consumables on common encounters is bad.

My 'big rule' has always been, if you're burning consumables just to get by, go do something else immediately. Between the main dungeon, lair, and orc you should have plenty of options.

Personally, I like to put a bit of XP into traps and doors and the first decent weapon I find, focus on my starting school of magic, then branch off in one other direction to a lesser extent. Mind you, I've never ascended, but I'm getting better every time, so I don't feel too bad about that.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2656 on: June 29, 2010, 08:23:49 am »
I have a spriggan assasin who has just gained the magic skill and I want a magic based god so which one should I pick?Oh not Xom he scares me too much because all of my best people have died due to Xom !!fun!!
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« Reply #2657 on: June 29, 2010, 09:16:05 am »
Quote from: Dwarf mc dwarf on June 29, 2010, 08:23:49 am
I have a spriggan assasin who has just gained the magic skill and I want a magic based god so which one should I pick?Oh not Xom he scares me too much because all of my best people have died due to Xom !!fun!!
Let me think....Xom!

(For magic based, either Sif Muna, the magic god; or Nemelex, the Casino God. They both work well with magic casters.)
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2658 on: June 29, 2010, 09:18:21 am »
Well, hive has fallen.  And in it lie dozens and dozens of tasty honeycombs and royal jellies.

In other words, I can now turn invisible almost whenver I like.  Hehehe.

Also, Okawaru is a solid choice for a Spriggan Assassin.  He's been giving me a load of daggers (culminating in the +3 +3 dagger of Okawaru's Displeasure (speed, +5 AC, +3 str) and I hope he eventually starts giving me some useful armour (A vanilla wizard hat?? Come on!).
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« Reply #2659 on: June 29, 2010, 11:12:28 am »
I must admit, that I had put the game down for a while. Is it just me, or is everyone getting REALLY nice stuff fairly often and early? I just found a ring, Controlled teleport, blink, lev, +2str, +rC.
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Ustxu Iceraped the Frigid Crystal of Slaughter was a glacier titan. It was the only one of its kind. A gigantic feathered carp composed of crystal glass. It has five mouths full of treacherous teeth, enormous clear wings, and ferocious blue eyes. Beware its icy breath! Ustxu was associated with oceans, glaciers, boats, and murder.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2660 on: June 29, 2010, 11:30:36 am »
Alright, I'll go for 15 runes. I need to prepare first, since I lack a few important spells. Time to go incinerate some elves!

Quote from: Anticipation on June 29, 2010, 01:23:03 am
Hmm, did you swap gods? (assuming this is the same guy from before)

No, but I'm tempted to switch to Nemelex. Vehumet is a great god (Fire Storm is basically free to cast), but Nemelex is so... broken.

Quote from: Virroken on June 29, 2010, 03:08:15 am
Does regeneration work on bloodless vampires, or are they like deep dwarves?

Bloodless vampires can't regenerate. Here's a tip for dealing with the lack of healing.
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« Reply #2661 on: June 29, 2010, 11:41:51 am »
Don't forget that if you have a reasonably clear route, you can retreat to earlier levels and farm blood potions. Shame there is no way to keep them good though.

Edit: Alright, I have to remember to clear out my bones file every run. Nothing like running into your last Fire Elementalist, who could never use a fireball, then get one shot by same using a fireball.

Edit2: Farthest I've gotten. The stone giant came out of confusion and immediately threw the boulder.
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Shame. I had a book with firestorm and a staff of fire.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 03:52:34 pm by beorn080 »
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Quote from: rkyeun on April 05, 2010, 01:09:56 am
Ustxu Iceraped the Frigid Crystal of Slaughter was a glacier titan. It was the only one of its kind. A gigantic feathered carp composed of crystal glass. It has five mouths full of treacherous teeth, enormous clear wings, and ferocious blue eyes. Beware its icy breath! Ustxu was associated with oceans, glaciers, boats, and murder.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2662 on: June 29, 2010, 06:26:23 pm »
Does anyone know if there's going to be another tournament coming up? I've been getting back into the game, and would enjoy playing for the B12 team again.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2663 on: June 29, 2010, 06:38:27 pm »
Quote from: Dr.Feelgood on June 29, 2010, 11:30:36 am
Quote from: Virroken on June 29, 2010, 03:08:15 am
Does regeneration work on bloodless vampires, or are they like deep dwarves?

Bloodless vampires can't regenerate. Here's a tip for dealing with the lack of healing.
Another nice tip for getting blood is to get your vampire to worship Kikubaaqudgha
The "Receive Corpse" ability you will gain from him can be used a "phone call to the blood bank" ;) that can really help when you're out of healing, entirely bloodless and inside some bloodless monsters branch.

Because you should be able to get blood from the majority of the corpses Kikubaaqudgha will send your way. Helped me a bit with a vampire necromancer, usually i used to mix those corpse to create huge abominations with the Twisted Resurrection spell, but when i really needed healing it was helpfull.

But this ability consume piety, so you can't abuse the Recieve Corpse much as you will lose this ability (until you regain enough piety to use it again of course)

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2664 on: June 29, 2010, 08:00:05 pm »
Quote from: Vactor on June 29, 2010, 06:26:23 pm
Does anyone know if there's going to be another tournament coming up? I've been getting back into the game, and would enjoy playing for the B12 team again.

There's a tournament coming up in August. The Devteam's scrambling to get a release in on time by the end of July, so expect a RC coming up pretty soon.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2665 on: June 29, 2010, 08:35:35 pm »
Quote from: Dr.Feelgood on June 29, 2010, 11:30:36 am
Alright, I'll go for 15 runes. I need to prepare first, since I lack a few important spells. Time to go incinerate some elves!

I play fire elementalist a LOT but I'm not really a good player. I mean I play constantly, but whenever I reach that mid to end game wall I just sort of flop. If I'm not dead from something silly, I just don't want to go on anymore because I feel like I have no chance in hell.

So anyway, when you say you're going for some important spells, what would they be? If anybody else can answer this too then I'd be grateful. In fact as a fire elementalist, I focus only on fire/conjuration schools, I never branch out. Ever. Is this bad? What should I branch out to, and when, if anything? And are there any tips that can be repeated for somebody who just can't push out of the "easy" section of the game even if he wanted to?

I don't save scum either. I tried it but it made the game boring, so I immediately stopped.
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« Reply #2666 on: June 29, 2010, 08:40:59 pm »
Tournament?  Huh?

Oh, I see.  I'd try to pick up a few cheap points.  I shall be the best Ogre Earth Elementalist of them all!
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2667 on: June 29, 2010, 09:13:21 pm »
Oh, a tournament could be interesting with the other DCSS Bay12 fans in this thread teaming up.

But as most of the points awarded are more or less based on a variation of a win, something i never did in more than a year of playing that game, i am not sure i would get much points for the team if i give a look to the scoring system of the 2009 tourney :
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney09/index.html
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« Reply #2668 on: June 29, 2010, 10:01:38 pm »
Quote from: Robsoie on June 29, 2010, 09:13:21 pm
Oh, a tournament could be interesting with the other DCSS Bay12 fans in this thread teaming up.

But as most of the points awarded are more or less based on a variation of a win, something i never did in more than a year of playing that game, i am not sure i would get much points for the team if i give a look to the scoring system of the 2009 tourney :
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney09/index.html

We actually do pretty well, we placed 5th in that tourney, and if you look, a win isn't the only way to score points, Ealb got more points than two of us that had wins.
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« Reply #2669 on: June 29, 2010, 10:52:38 pm »
1. How do I break glass walls? Wand of Digging?
2. Is it worth breaking a glass wall to get a "Fountain of Sparkling Water", and what does this fountain do?
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